The Sideshow Freaks Fitness Thread

[dwing]

KId never locked it out.

 

[xjamiex]

I decided to start training with creatine today- I picked up BSN N.O Xplode for my pre-workout drink (to give me more energy, better focus) and the BSN CellMass as my post-recovery drink. I'm only doing one scope of each as I don't want to over do it.

I'm going to do it for six weeks and then see how I feel and how my results are. If I'm happy then I'll probably extend it to a maximum of 12 weeks and then take a few months off to ween off it.

 

[grphyx1]

I'd at least do the creatine for 2 months. Be sure to take in lots of fluids, as to help flush out the build up of Creatinine (by-product of creatine) in your system.

I decided to start training with creatine today- I picked up BSN N.O Xplode for my pre-workout drink (to give me more energy, better focus) and the BSN CellMass as my post-recovery drink. I'm only doing one scope of each as I don't want to over do it.

I'm going to do it for six weeks and then see how I feel and how my results are. If I'm happy then I'll probably extend it to a maximum of 12 weeks and then take a few months off to ween off it.

 

[Skiman]

[ame]https://youtu.be/s6ThkfJuTyA[/ame]

 

[xjamiex]

I'd at least do the creatine for 2 months. Be sure to take in lots of fluids, as to help flush out the build up of Creatinine (by-product of creatine) in your system.

Good call- I'm currently drinking 4-5 litres of water a day right now so it shouldn't be an issue.

No coffee, no soda, no tea, no booze. Just water all day long

 

[grphyx1]

Ski I got a good laugh from this one.

https://youtu.be/s6ThkfJuTyA

sounds good to me. that's a lot of water

Good call- I'm currently drinking 4-5 litres of water a day right now so it shouldn't be an issue.

No coffee, no soda, no tea, no booze. Just water all day long

 

[Snadinator]

I decided to start training with creatine today- I picked up BSN N.O Xplode for my pre-workout drink (to give me more energy, better focus) and the BSN CellMass as my post-recovery drink. I'm only doing one scope of each as I don't want to over do it.

I'm going to do it for six weeks and then see how I feel and how my results are. If I'm happy then I'll probably extend it to a maximum of 12 weeks and then take a few months off to ween off it.

You are wasting your money. You are buying an overly expensive sugar filled drink.

You get plenty of creatine in meat and fish. If by chance you are deficient, then buy cheap creatine powder and mix it with some juice yourself.

Instead you should get BCAA's, Fish oil and quality Casein and Whey protein.

 

[Snadinator]

I've been doing deads to get my lower back stronger. I'm now up to 285 for reps. I hope to be at 350 by next Dec. and hit 425 buy June 2014'. Should be able to do it. I'm trying to do it at a weight of 170 or lower.

Post some videos of yourself deadlifting. Take em from the side or at least from an angle. I'll critique your form and give you suggestions.

 

[Skiman]

You are wasting your money. You are buying an overly expensive sugar filled drink.

You get plenty of creatine in meat and fish. If by chance you are deficient, then buy cheap creatine powder and mix it with some juice yourself.

Instead you should get BCAA's, Fish oil and quality Casein and Whey protein.

I've even stripped those last two off, or just pretty much protein shakes in general and haven't looked back. I think it's going on my 5th year of just foods for bodybuilding(close to 15+ total years of bodybuilding) and I've looked better and especially felt better in these years.

I really hate the industry though so I'm bias.

Ski

 

[Snadinator]

I've even stripped those last two off, or just pretty much protein shakes in general and haven't looked back. I think it's going on my 5th year of just foods for bodybuilding(close to 15+ total years of bodybuilding) and I've looked better and especially felt better in these years.

I really hate the industry though so I'm bias.

Ski

While that is possible, I know when I was 300lbs at 15% bodyfat that I just couldn't bare chewing that much food (I was into Strongman and Powerlifting). I tried blending a chicken breast in water, as Derek Poundstone would do, and... well it was not pleasant.

Furthermore, it is hard to get all your amino acids from food unless you include an egg in every meal. Eggs have a complete amino acid profile. Your body will catabolize tissues in order to obtain missing amino's. Bringing eggs to work didn't seem convenient.

I think Whey is seriously overhyped. It is digested so fast it's utility is best as a post workout protein only. A Casein / Whey blend is far more effective in my opinion. The problem more often than not is getting a brand that doesn't cause bloating, which is a sign of cheap protein. Also, it most certainly should not be your only source of protein. Solids should come first.

The only supplements I bothered with in the end were

Casein / Whey blend

BCAA powder I would add to carb drinks during a workout. I really felt this helped with my gains. Felt I wouldn't catabolize so much tissue from my workouts.

Fish oil and a fair amount of it. Buy it in oil form and not in capsules. Look for high EPA DHA ratios.

Multi Vitamin / Multi Mineral


Those adds for those Cell-Tech, No explode, creatine junk drinks make what I consider to be fraudulent claims. You don't get those gains on supplements.

 

[Skiman]

While that is possible, I know when I was 300lbs at 15% bodyfat that I just couldn't bare chewing that much food (I was into Strongman and Powerlifting). I tried blending a chicken breast in water, as Derek Poundstone would do, and... well it was not pleasant.

Furthermore, it is hard to get all your amino acids from food unless you include an egg in every meal. Eggs have a complete amino acid profile. Your body will catabolize tissues in order to obtain missing amino's. Bringing eggs to work didn't seem convenient.

I think Whey is seriously overhyped. It is digested so fast it's utility is best as a post workout protein only. A Casein / Whey blend is far more effective in my opinion. The problem more often than not is getting a brand that doesn't cause bloating, which is a sign of cheap protein. Also, it most certainly should not be your only source of protein. Solids should come first.

The only supplements I bothered with in the end were

Casein / Whey blend

BCAA powder I would add to carb drinks during a workout. I really felt this helped with my gains. Felt I wouldn't catabolize so much tissue from my workouts.

Fish oil and a fair amount of it. Buy it in oil form and not in capsules. Look for high EPA DHA ratios.

Multi Vitamin / Multi Mineral


Those adds for those Cell-Tech, No explode, creatine junk drinks make what I consider to be fraudulent claims. You don't get those gains on supplements.

(eggs all day buddy)
Yep, and yep.

Too much preaching to the choir as I read this.

Agreed and agreed, that's pretty much what I take as well for basic supps.

Ski

 

[Snadinator]

(eggs all day buddy)
Yep, and yep.

Too much preaching to the choir as I read this.

Agreed and agreed.

Ski

Ha! Eggs are probably my favorite food too. The media had demonized them as cholesterol elevating imps. It's been published in medical journals that eating cholesterol doesn't raise serum cholesterol levels. If your cholesterol is out of wack, you are likely eating too many processed foods.

Eggs are full of win.

 

[Skiman]

Ha! Eggs are probably my favorite food too. The media had demonized them as cholesterol elevating imps. It's been published in medical journals that eating cholesterol doesn't raise serum cholesterol levels. If your cholesterol is out of wack, you are likely eating too many processed foods.

Eggs are full of win.

I hate them.

but like I told anyone if dirt would give me the physique I wanted I'd eat it.

I used to down the whites all the time but the wife didn't agree with me on that at all. I'd probably down them if I had my way today if she hadn't said anything.

Ski

 

[Snadinator]

I hate them.

but like I told anyone if dirt would give me the physique I wanted I'd eat it.

I used to down the whites all the time but the wife didn't agree with me on that at all. I'd probably down them if I had my way today if she hadn't said anything.

Ski

I used to put egg whites into my protein drinks. Uncooked eggs gives me gas. Not good at work.

I eat the yolks too. I buy Omega enriched eggs. There is little saturated fat and a respectable amount of omega 3s.

I used to eat a half dozen egg omelette every morning.

 

[dwing]

Post some videos of yourself deadlifting. Take em from the side or at least from an angle. I'll critique your form and give you suggestions.

I'll work on that. I'm finding the more I focus on just hitting my loer back the harder it's been. I backed down to 255x3 today.

Question for you and Ski. Do you work your deads with back or legs. I've heard both but work them with back. I want to get a bar so I can do Squats from a dead lift position i.e. starting squated. I think it's called hanging arm squats or something. I find that doing this does not hurt my knees as reg squats do.

 

[dwing]

EGGS! Love them. I found a way of cooing them that's awesome. I use a 6 dish muffin pan. Spray alittle pam. Put egss in and cook at 400 for 5 min and then broil for 2 min. Whites get done and the yokes stay runny(way I like em'). I put a little sea salt and pepper before cooking. At the facility I work at I get 4 egg whites and 1 whole egg with 1/2 cup of grilled potatoes as a post work out meal.

 

[Snadinator]

I'll work on that. I'm finding the more I focus on just hitting my loer back the harder it's been. I backed down to 255x3 today.

Question for you and Ski. Do you work your deads with back or legs. I've heard both but work them with back. I want to get a bar so I can do Squats from a dead lift position i.e. starting squated. I think it's called hanging arm squats or something. I find that doing this does not hurt my knees as reg squats do.

Dude if your knees hurt while squatting, you aren't doing them right. Start filming your lifts. I'll give you pointers on form and general advice to jack your lifts.

Deadlifts are not isolation exercises. It's a compound exercise where your whole body works. It is largely dependant on your posterior chain (glutes, lower back and hamstrings). Hamstrings have both a leg flexion and hip extension role. When I see a dude with a giant pair of glutes, hamstrings and a lower back that looks like a pair of forearms running down his back, I know that dude is seriously strong. A lot of olympic lifters look dinky but lift giant weights. Notice the muscles I mention are always well developped.

Also, careful with maxing deadlifts all the time. That lift will burn your central nervous system faster than anything else. Keep some in the tank and switch up your pulls once in awhile.

 

[dwing]

I just have bad knees. Even leg ext. can hurt. I've had one scoped after I was pinned against a work truck by a car. My leg should have been really damaged but I was blessed that I was standing near the wheel well and my knee was pinned inside the cavity. I did heavy lifting in HS for sports and our lifting team and did not have any issues then. But at 39 I have just got to a place where my knees pop all day regardless of what I do. I agree bad form will cause joint pain and such. I have been using the leg press and can better change the angle.
I have sim. issues with my shoulders. I can do Arnold presses w/o issue but doing barbell presses can hurt.

 

[jimmie_dimmick]

I have knee issues too and kind of the same issue. Problem with me is from sports as a kid my hips are messed up and due to my hips being screwed up my knees rub bone on bone causing a popping and pain when doing squats, hack squats, leg press and leg extensions or if I'm simply standing too long in one spot or running on a hard surface. Did some physical therapy which didn't help at all.

Sad part is I'm only 33...

 

[Snadinator]

I still want to see. I bet your knees bend like an accordion which is not proper squatting. You need to sit back and idwally keep those knees from moving forward which puts enormous strain on them. In order to squat the way I mention, you need very strong hamstrings.

Knee pain can also indicate poor ankle mobility and weak calf muscles.