The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[YoNoSe]

I think the deaths could have been effective last season. This felt like a carnival attraction....here's what you've been waiting for!

That said, I was more unhappy with Negan's repetitive schtick and the "filler" content of the episode - RV trip to nowhere, axe retrieval exercise to no end (gives axe back then makes the same point again - for the third time), explaining the significance of the RV trip before the Carl threat...and I swear in the promo for next week I heard Negan say "I'm in charge!" The point was wonderfully conveyed with his speech at the end of last season. It started to feel like parody.

I dunno...part of me wants to drop the show but I know I'll slink back.

Sorry if my negativity is a bummer. I honestly said to my friend before the show that I was more excited to see more of Negan than to see who gets bonked but by the halfway point I was bored with his perpetually bemused sadism. I loved the performance in the finale but I thought the repetition just watered down his intensity.

 

[The Ween]

I actually think it was worse than an Eli Roth film. Usually even in the most brutal of films there is still SOME sense, however small, of catharsis at the end. Somebody escapes, gets revenge, kills or hurts the bad guy in some substantial way, *something.* Last night's episode was just an exercise in vulgar nihilism, relishing in manipulative gore, serving NO purpose than these two things: 1. Make you feel horrified and hopeless and sad and 2. Make you hate Negan so that you can enjoy his comeuppance umpteen episodes or years from now. Nothing else. To me that isn't entertainment. And I can handle gore in other contexts. The worst moment of the episode wasn't even the brain bashing for me, it was sequence with Carl's hand. That was repulsive in its manipulative cruelty and I don't even give two rips about Carl. It was just having my mind "go there" as a dad. Despicable. All IMO of course. I'll semi-monitor the show for spoilers from time to time but I have purged all scheduled recordings from my DVR.

It was truly a great show for a time.

Spoiler

Though I don't read the comics, I'm sure that's to come sooner or later. In movies it has to come sooner, but in a series like this, it has to come much later. Negan will eventually "get his."

 

[greygoose]

Heavy going that. Sad to see Abe go.

 

[Mister Ski]

I'm seeing three types of response at the moment:

1: Repulsed and tempted to stop watching

2: Enjoyed it and thought it was a good homage to the comic

3: People who liked it but are now making passive aggressive attacks on those who were repulsed.



Why do people get so offended when someone says something negative about something they like?

I like grapes. But if someone said to me 'grapes suck' am not going to change my opinion on grapes and neither am I stop going to eat them.
I would say 'that's cool that you don't like grapes'.

When people get overly protective and defensive about something they like, it helps in showing how insecure they might be about it.

Not everyone is going to like the same stuff.

I didn't like this episode. That's cool.
Some people did like it. That's cool too.

It's a show about post-apocalyptic zombies -nothing really matters anyway!

Is this in reference to my post? If so, where am I attacking anyone, passive aggressively or otherwise?

Furthermore, I am not offended by what anyone posts on here. Frankly, I am only trying to understand why they post what they post.

I will use your grape analogy to help show my point of view of the situation. You like grapes. Great. Someone tells you they don't like grapes, but they keep eating them and tell you each time they eat them that they don't like grapes. Why keep eating grapes then if they don't like them and furthermore why do they have to keep telling you that they don't like them? Now substitute "The Walking Dead" for "grapes", "watching" for "eating" and "watch" for "eat" and hopefully you have a better understanding of where I am coming from.

 

[morphosis]

I got really choked up at Glenn's words to Maggie because they were almost exactly what my brother said to his wife before he passed away.

so sorry to hear that. I think thats another reason i just can't deal with the show because some of the realism. i dont like movies, tv shows, or books where loved ones die in a realistic world or scenario. I have a hard time with it. After 7+ years watching Glenn on TV you get attached, and I felt for the relationship he had with Maggie. That stuff was very real to me. I think of what if that was my wife and it just gets really difficult. So yeah, i just dont find entertainment in it anymore.

 

[The Ween]

I just finished watching. I am not ashamed to admit I wept at the end. I guess I am not as desensitized as I thought. I will definitely be back next week. And the week after that. And the week after that. I want to see how Negan gets it handed to him.

This is me. I lost my breath for awhile, just like I did in the very first episode when Rick shot that little zombie girl. I still love the show.

 

[Snake Plissken]

what's ironic is that they did the cliffhanger in order to guarantee more people tuning in for the new season and for people to be excited and the new season and the outcome of the cliffhanger is what will make a lot of people turn away lol.

Negan and the death of Glenn might be what kills the show. Their little cliffhanger and idea to have more people in suspense might have just killed the show lol

(Imagine what would have happened if the Governor did everything he did in the comic, the show could have ended by season 4)

I gave up on the show almost three seasons ago since I got tired of the same rinse and repeat formula every week. Having said that, after watching the latest two death scenes, I'm glad I didn't give it another shot. Sure Glenn's death was accurate to the comic and all, but I just felt no feeling watching their heads getting bashed in and it just came off as silly gore porn to me. Lauren Cohan's reaction felt really forced and unnatural, and I think that's part of the reason I had my non reaction to it.

 

[greygoose]

I gave up on the show almost three seasons ago since I got tired of the same rinse and repeat formula every week. Having said that, after watching the latest two death scenes, I'm glad I didn't give it another shot. Sure Glenn's death was accurate to the comic and all, but I just felt no feeling watching their heads getting bashed in and it just came off as silly gore porn to me. Lauren Cohan's reaction felt really forced and unnatural, and I think that's part of the reason I had my non reaction to it.

S5 and 6 are the best IMO.

 

[crows]

I'm seeing three types of response at the moment:

1: Repulsed and tempted to stop watching

2: Enjoyed it and thought it was a good homage to the comic

3: People who liked it but are now making passive aggressive attacks on those who were repulsed.



Why do people get so offended when someone says something negative about something they like?

I like grapes. But if someone said to me 'grapes suck' am not going to change my opinion on grapes and neither am I stop going to eat them.
I would say 'that's cool that you don't like grapes'.

When people get overly protective and defensive about something they like, it helps in showing how insecure they might be about it.

Not everyone is going to like the same stuff.

I didn't like this episode. That's cool.
Some people did like it. That's cool too.

It's a show about post-apocalyptic zombies -nothing really matters anyway!

someone says something negative about something they like?

im not talking about here at all, im going to talk about the other online reactions
the problem is that imagine i got offended and got the supermarket to ban the sales of grapes, and then you cant eat them because i was offended.

you say:
I didn't like this episode. That's cool.
Some people did like it. That's cool too.

thats not how it works in social media involved. make enough noise and things can get banned or canceled or the network will have to apologize
im not saying that this is exactly what will happen with this show because of this episode but it Has actually happened with video games or magazines or comics

something is too violent, something is too sexy, something is too racist, something is too sexist, BAN IT
yeah, people wont stay quiet if they dont like grapes anymore, you can be sure there will be a petition online to ban grapes or angry letters for a store selling grapes

did you ever hear of this cover?

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I gave up on the show almost three seasons ago since I got tired of the same rinse and repeat formula every week. Having said that, after watching the latest two death scenes, I'm glad I didn't give it another shot. Sure Glenn's death was accurate to the comic and all, but I just felt no feeling watching their heads getting bashed in and it just came off as silly gore porn to me. Lauren Cohan's reaction felt really forced and unnatural, and I think that's part of the reason I had my non reaction to it.

I don't care about 'major' deaths on shows I don't watch, either. People who don't care ... don't care. Go figure.

SnakeDoc

 

[mikedanger]

I am totally on board with banning grapes...and corn too while we're at it. They are the grapes of the vegetable world.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I don't care about 'major' deaths on shows I don't watch, either. People who don't care ... don't care. Go figure.

SnakeDoc

Ah sorry, I forgot this was a safe space for only positive opinions. Carry on.

 

[The Ween]

Spoiler

 

[GOTnerd]

Jesus, you fellas sound like those butt hurt ladies that quit GOT after the red wedding, lol.

Oh well...best of luck to you and your future television endeavors.

HAHA, I love when the major players are killed off. Red Wedding was AWESOME.

As for this show, I think it's only gotten better the last 2 seasons. I didn't love it so much around 3-4. I'm really looking forward to the way this plays out this season.

 

[Shaun & Ed Fan]

Daryl is the only real man in the group.
Rather go out on your feet than to go out on your knees!

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

Not a fan of the rinse and repeat formula of TWD. But this weather reminded me seeing the trailer for S1 and I was so pumped. Watching S7 in nearly the same conditions, has reinvigorated my interest in the show. Last I watched was towards the end of S4. I know of all the major deaths, and even deaths of characters I have yet to see. Either way, I think JDM is the main reason I'm back to watching it. He really did a great job as Negan! I may not know about the character, but I know he played the psychotic ****ing POS character 100% perfectly!

 

[marvinmyles]

Negan was built up to be this bad guy especially since the break last season.We already knew what was coming in this episode and Negan was a dud,just another form of the Governor with a bloody bat.Yeah' we got a couple of bloody head bashings and Negan spewing out the rules but come on,he would have never taken Rick's disdain for a second and that is according to Negan.But he did throughout the entire episode.I know the show couldn't go on without Rick but it was such a let down.
It really should have been someone else besides Rick,the writers screwed up IMO.It's the hip thing to kill off main characters and now we already know how it goes.Time loop.Start over.All I can say is Carol is not going to stand for it.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Ah sorry, I forgot this was a safe space for only positive opinions. Carry on.

Sorry. I forgot this was a safe space. Only positive opinions of negative opinions. Carry on. You're safe here.

I don't care what you like. It's just a weird point to bother making. "I don't watch ... and I wasn't at all emotionally moved by these deaths." Duh.

SnakeDoc

 

[Snake Plissken]

Sorry. I forgot this was a safe space. Only positive opinions of negative opinions. Carry on. You're safe here.

I don't care what you like. It's just a weird point to bother making. "I don't watch ... and I wasn't at all emotionally moved by these deaths." Duh.

SnakeDoc

I watched the show for nearly five years, but I guess stopping watching it negates my opinion. On top of not caring for the show anymore, I've really come to dislike this hive mind over sensitive fan base. You prove my point on that, thank you.

 

[a-dev]

I watched it without having read spoilers for once! Feels like it's been a while since this show punched me in the stomach quite like that.

Spoiler

Had never guessed that two characters would get Lucilled so when the second one happened I spilt my coke all over myself.

They managed to squeeze even more tension in the lead-up to the deaths despite it essentially being repetition - they were as gruesome as would be expected - Rick's humiliation was equally hard to watch, and the aftermath to it all was numbing.

I had no expectation of seeing any ray of light in this episode. It's a TV show, it will come later. Major catharsis will be needed down the line but I have a feeling we'll be waiting a while.