The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[thenammagazine]

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Did he use his psychic powers?

Him being there. If Shane hadn't shot Otis, Otis, Shane and Carl would be dead.

Self defense of another is just as acceptable as defense of one's self. You dont have to be ddeputized to legally kill someone trying to harm another. Particularly a family member. It's not a crime at all.

That all depends on the lawyer.

But my point to Devil is that he's defending Rick and Carl's actions as self defense, when Shane's actions could also be deemed as such.

 

[Morbach]

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no ep tonight

 

[Darth Caedus]

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no ep tonight

 

[thenammagazine]

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[ProgMatinee]

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Him being there. If Shane hadn't shot Otis, Otis, Shane and Carl would be dead.



That all depends on the lawyer.

But my point to Devil is that he's defending Rick and Carl's actions as self defense, when Shane's actions could also be deemed as such.

Maybe this is semantics, but self defense is different than self preservation. "Self defense" would imply that Otis was attacking Shane directly, rather than the zombies.

 

[thenammagazine]

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Maybe this is semantics, but self defense is different than self preservation. "Self defense" would imply that Otis was attacking Shane directly, rather than the zombies.

Then Carl's excuse for shooting Shane is out given Shane wasn't directly attacking Carl. But in the broader sense, Shane not killing Otis would've resulted in both their deaths and Carl's. The only reason it's quick and easy to hate on Shane is because Lori's turned him into a monster continually ____ing with his mind every chance she gets.

 

[ProgMatinee]

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I think we have 3 situations which aren't exactly the same.

Self defense
Familial defense
Self preservation

I think its all circumstantial. On the surface I couldn't say all 3 are morally equal or not equal just by label.

 

[thenammagazine]

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I think we have 3 situations which aren't exactly the same.

Self defense
Familial defense
Self preservation

I think its all circumstantial. On the surface I couldn't say all 3 are morally equal or not equal just by label.

So if someone's actions will cause you to die, and you take their life, that's not self defense?

Non TWD example. You're in freefall, and the parachute on the guy who jumped just before you did didn't open right, so he cut it loose and pulled his reserve, but it deployed right at you and got tangled in your lines which, in turn, causes your canopy not to open either. Leave everything be and you both plummet to your death. Cutting free of him sends him to certain death but allows you to pull your reserve and save your own life. What would you do?

 

[ProgMatinee]

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Thats called self preservation. Its not the same as self defense. What action did Otis commit that would have caused Shane to die? Wasn't it more like Shane's own inability (whether by his own fault or not) to escape that led to him shooting Otis? Otis didn't specifically do something to cause this (unless you mean going all the way back to the original accident).

In your situation it might depend who is the person in the other parachute...if it's someone I love I possibly sacrifice myself. Or possibly fight or flight takesover and I do whatever to save myself. No one knows in that situation until it happens what they'd really do.

Anyway, as I said, its all circumstantial. I can't just say every decision to take a life is equally right or wrong.

 

[thenammagazine]

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Thats self preservation.

Its not the same as self defense.

In your situation it might depend who is the person in the other parachute...if it's my someone I love I probably sacrifice myself.

As I said, its all circumstantial. I can't just say every decision to take a life is equally right or wrong.

Not a loved one, just someone you met in the plane on the way up.

 

[ProgMatinee]

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Then self preservation probably takes over and you do what you had to do, I guess.

I'm not sure I'm hardwired that way though, to be so competitively instinctual, so I would probably die. I just take myself in say working envirornment. I hold up my end of business, but I'm not ostensibly attacking other people while I do it. I know some people who the only way they think they win is by making you lose, which doesn't always provide the greatest benefit.

If we got down to brass tacks I bet I would try to save both parachutists and possibly we both die, but maybe just maybe we slow up our descent and crash into a hay pile.

 

[thenammagazine]

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Then self preservation probably takes over and you do what you had to do, I guess.

I'm not sure I'm hardwired that way though, to be so competitively instinctual, so I would probably die. I just take myself in say working envirornment. I hold up my end of business, but I'm not ostensibly attacking other people while I do it. I know some people who the only way they think they win is by making you lose, which doesn't always provide the greatest benefit.

If we got down to brass tacks I bet I would try to save both parachutists and possibly we both die, but maybe just maybe we slow up our descent and crash into a hay pile.

We're all hardwired for self preservation. It's actually self sacrifice that's not instinctual. Defending your life, or self, doesn't mean the attack has to be direct. It just means the threat has to be evident, leaving you, at the time, with no other foreseeable option.

 

[Mister Ski]

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Nobody puts this series on page 2, let alone page 3 which is where I found it.

Only 56 more days until the second half of season 2 starts.

 

[Project_A]

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I miss this show.... Please hurry!

 

[thenammagazine]

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Meh, this series blows. Cancel it already.

 

[Mightytrex]

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Meh, this series blows. Cancel it already.

Worst. Show. Ever.

 

[thenammagazine]

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Worst. Show. Ever.

Yup. AMC would be wiser to pick up My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic and run back to back reruns in that timeslot!

 

[Mister Ski]

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Yup. AMC would be wiser to pick up My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic and run back to back reruns in that timeslot!

Did shropt hack nam's account again?

 

[thenammagazine]

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Did shropt hack nam's account again?

 

[pixletwin]

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Boo! for pointless bumps.