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Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC

You could always apply for a writer's position and show them how it is done. I am sure they will all appreciate you setting them straight.

So waiting 50 minutes for things to pick up is too long?:dunno

u seem awfully defensive for no other reason than to "win" this discussion. chill out, dude. debates like this are supposed to be all in good fun. i saw slow and mostly non-significant plot development in the episode.

50 minutes IS long in the context i was referring to, which is half a season of long, drawn-out hide & seek with sophia. again, i'm not saying that plotline was wasted or bad, as it allowed quite a few solid moments (eg: daryl's speech about the flower, the pregnancy issue). but this episode just started off feeling like they weren't getting into gear after all that waiting around. mind you, i never said the whole season or even the whole episode, since i did point out (twice) that it got pretty good at the end. everyone's entitled to their way of seeing things. try to understand that. :peace

and yes, i could very well go for a writer's position on the show, but AMC, being the cheap bastards that they are, would very likely be too stingy to pay up. :D
 
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC

u seem awfully defensive for no other reason than to "win" this discussion. chill out, dude. debates like this are supposed to be all in good fun. i saw slow and mostly non-significant plot development in the episode.

50 minutes IS long in the context i was referring to, which is half a season of long, drawn-out hide & seek with sophia. again, i'm not saying that plotline was wasted or bad, as it allowed quite a few solid moments (eg: daryl's speech about the flower, the pregnancy issue). but this episode just started off feeling like they weren't getting into gear after all that waiting around. mind you, i never said the whole season or even the whole episode, since i did point out (twice) that it got pretty good at the end. everyone's entitled to their way of seeing things. try to understand that. :peace

and yes, i could very well go for a writer's position on the show, but AMC, being the cheap bastards that they are, would very likely be too stingy to pay up. :D

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

I am chill. :peace
 
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I think Rick and Shane are incredibly similar, morally. In this new world everything seems to dance on a razor's edge and simply there are times now where true virtue will get you killed. Its no longer about right or wrong (if it ever has been) but rather alive and how long you plan to stay that way or dead.
Both Rick and Shane are well suited for this world.
 
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I don't think Rick shooting the guys symbolized any change. Let's be honest he was changed from episode one when he woke up in a hospital full of zombies. I think it was pretty obvious he came to a realization that there was no law last season when he took off his badge and put it away. Him shooting the guys last week was just adaptation.
 
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I think Rick and Shane are incredibly similar, morally. In this new world everything seems to dance on a razor's edge and simply there are times now where true virtue will get you killed. Its no longer about right or wrong (if it ever has been) but rather alive and how long you plan to stay that way or dead.
Both Rick and Shane are well suited for this world.

I don't think Shane gunning down Otis (like a dog)and leaving him for bait, so he can get away, constitutes conduct or good behavior. Yes they are both fit for this new world but in different ways especially not morally.

The important thing about Rick is that he is capable and ready to do brutal things without becoming a brutal man.

:exactly: This is one of the big reasons I find this character so interesting. Rick makes the hard decisions the ones no one else can. Shooting a couple of dirt bags at the bar for the safety of his group shows the true intention of this character to only be brutal when need be while maintaining composure.
 
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Rick felt threatened and had every right to, so he shot those guys.....before they shot him.

Those guys were pushing it, and if they did end up shooting Rick, Hershel and Glenn...and then found the farm, there is a great chance that more people would have been killed.

I don't think Rick has changed, he just knows when it's the right time to do such a thing. Where as Shane has the potential to kill for no reason, and sooner or later he will. Otis wasn't killed for no reason, Shane did it to save himself, but was it necessary, was it done in 'cold blood'?

Anyways my point here is that Shane and Rick are still different and will never be the same. Rick makes decisions to truly protect his family and the group. Whereas Shane thinks he does, but his ego, temper and self take priority.

Shane just opened the barn and took care of it right there and shocked everyone...and hurt the relationship between Hershel and the survivors.
Whereas Rick agreed it was a problem, but he would have tried more reasonable means of dealing with it.
 
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I think the only thing that has changed is that there is no law and order any longer. Shane isn't acting the way he is because he's changed, it's because he can now. He's always been this person and the show has given us enough of a look into his past to support the type of character he is. Same goes for Rick. They have both responded differently to this realization and the outcomes are what they are because of who they were and are still.
 
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If there are any Mass Effect fans in here, EA and Bioware will air a cool new trailer during tomorrow night's episode of TWD. Here's a short teaser of what we can expect:

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And these really clever posters reworked from the TWD promo art.

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Still here...

We can debate this all night long. (Does anybody hear Lionel Richie in the background?) There are those of you who think Rick hasn't changed at all and then there are us who think he has or this shooting marks the beginning of that change. Let's see how the last five episodes play out and then we will see who was right and who was wrong. Just to be clear, I don't think Rick will become another Shane, but I do think he will toughen up enough and be forced to make some difficult choices that he would not have faced prior to the zombies to keep his family safe.

Personally, I think Rick has changed. However, he's not a murderer. He did not kill in cold blood. But he is operating under a different set of rules than he was in society.

He's more of an "old west sheriff" now.


But you're right, no point in keeping the argument going! I do think that Rick's character is going to arc this season, no argument there. I've simply been arguing that Rick's actions in the bar were not out of character.

Exactly. Not out of character at all. And he's not turning into Shane. He never will. But his character is developing and coming to terms with the world he is in.


I'm NOT DEBATING THE RIGHT OR WRONG HERE... just that he has CHANGED. He changed EXACTLY to deal with this new world.

For the record, I probably would've done the same thing in this post-apocalyptic situation.

Then you shouldn't have used the word "murderer". You shouted it at us. And you're still shouting.
 
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Hey now the pacing of walking dead is pretty good.
 
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I'm going to have to skip this till later. Gonna get my motha ____in Myrtle Beach! :D
 
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OMG this is awesome so far! Really tense.
 
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