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Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
I clicked it. LOL. It's just a link.
I clicked it. LOL. It's just a link.
The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)
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Exactly. But the link is to the video of spoilers. For real!!
Exactly. But the link is to the video of spoilers. For real!!
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
I clicked.... and, a lot of the speculation people have been posting before seems dead on, I guess that link was not as bad since I've read all the other spoiler speculation some of you guys have posted, is dead on the spot...
I clicked.... and, a lot of the speculation people have been posting before seems dead on, I guess that link was not as bad since I've read all the other spoiler speculation some of you guys have posted, is dead on the spot...
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I clicked the spoiler and watched less than half of it and then turned it off. Way to much info...
I would like to have some elements of suprise..
I clicked the spoiler and watched less than half of it and then turned it off. Way to much info...
I would like to have some elements of suprise..Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
I was going to stop it as well, but like I said, Reading everyone's spoilers here, some of them were exactly whats going on, So the video really didn't spoil anything for me, it just confirmed a bunch of stuff said already here before
I clicked the spoiler and watched less than half of it and then turned it off. Way to much info...
I was going to stop it as well, but like I said, Reading everyone's spoilers here, some of them were exactly whats going on, So the video really didn't spoil anything for me, it just confirmed a bunch of stuff said already here before
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I renamed that link -Important New Kony Video- and posted it on all of my facebook friends walls.
I renamed that link -Important New Kony Video- and posted it on all of my facebook friends walls.
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I watched it.
I watched it.
Much of this has been discussed here already
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
Just spoiled myself. Feels good man!
Just spoiled myself. Feels good man!
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The Walking Dead: Cataclysm!
Robert Kirkman discusses "Better Angels."
March 12, 2012
by Joey Esposito
After two status-quo changing episodes in a row, it's probably a good thing that next week's episode of The Walking Dead is the last of the season. I'm going to need the summer to catch my breath.
This week, creator Robert Kirkman talks about the major events of "Better Angels," the evolution of the zombie plague, and how this episode informs the seasons to come.
There are spoilers within for "Better Angels" and some mild spoilers for the comic book series as well. You've been warned.
Talking Walking Dead: "Better Angels"
IGN Comics: First and foremost: great episode! This is the first time that we've seen hard evidence of the dead coming back to life without being bitten, which is something established in the comics. In Season 1, we saw Jenner studying the disease extensively. So is this something that he might have missed, is withholding, or is it a completely new development in the zombie plague?
Robert Kirkman: I've stated many times that what Jenner whispered [to Rick] is something that we'll be revealing this season. You'll know what he said by the end of this season. We've just watched the next-to-last episode of this season, and we still haven't seen that reveal, but I will say that this scene – where Shane gets stabbed and comes back as a zombie without having been bitten – is definitely something that is going to inform that reveal coming up in the next episode.
IGN: With only Rick and Carl being the ones that know what happened to Shane, combined with this new revelation of the nature of the zombies, are his actions something that Rick could potentially hide from the rest of the group?
Kirkman: I will say that we did see a large herd coming out of the woods at the end of this episode, so it does seem like Rick isn't going to have a lot of time or opportunity to sit the group down at the farm and explain to them what just happened with Shane and what it could possibly mean. It may be something he's forced to keep to himself.
Read IGN TV's Review of "Better Angels"
IGN: Going off that, with the cliffhanger that we left on, I assume the reaction to Shane's death will be a stark contrast to what the group's reaction was to Dale's death. But is that something we'll actually get to in the next episode with all of these zombies charging the farm?
Kirkman: They're not going to have a lot of time to react to anything other than the zombies that are trying to eat them. I don't want to reveal too much about our next episode, but it is going to be utter chaos on the farm. So be on the lookout for something that I feel is somewhat awesome! It's a really, really cool episode.
Talking about Dale's death just for a minute, I will say that you have to recognize that Carl just shot someone who is very much a father figure to him; someone that he loved turned into a zombie and was trying to kill Rick. He definitely saved his father in that moment and that's a good example of what I think Dale's death has done for these characters. I don't think that Carl would've had the strength or courage to be able to pull the trigger on Shane if he hadn't just gone through that ordeal with the swamp walker that ended up killing Dale. So we're already seeing instances of these characters growing and maturing based on the events that they've gone through.
IGN: That plays into my next question, which is that Carl seems to have been getting a lot dumped on him this season. Which is a good thing, in my opinion. But meanwhile, he's feeling conflicted between his father figures of Rick and Shane. Now that Shane's gone, do you think he's more likely to buckle under the pressure of everything that's going on like Shane did, or will he remain more level headed like his actual father?
Kirkman: That remains to be seen. All I can really say is that Carl is going to be one of the most complicated and interesting characters in the series. He's a child growing up in this environment. He's not an adult who knows what life was like before and has had to change his perceptions in order to survive in this world. He's a kid who has no expectations; he has no sense of what civilization is, or what the rules are.
His rules, morals, and ethics are all being informed by these horrible decisions that he's seeing the adults make around him. His reaction to Shane's death isn't necessarily going to be a reaction like anyone who grew up in the same world that you or I did. So he's definitely going to be going down some dark paths and doing some strange things. Whether or not he leans more towards Shane's side of things or Rick's side of things remains to be seen.
IGN: This episode also feels like a huge turning point for Rick, even though he was essentially acting out of self-defense. How is the outcome of this episode going to affect Rick's role as a leader?
Kirkman: The outcome of this episode is going to affect Rick's role as a leader, Rick's personality, Rick's actions, everything involving Rick and the whole group for seasons after this. This is going to be a cataclysmic event that informs things that happen in season 3, season 4, and beyond. This is really a key moment in the life of the series. You're going to see a very different Rick coming out of this episode; bringing him to this level of violence and having him experience what he has to do in order to survive, making the decision to murder his best friend to carry on and protect his wife and son… This is something that's going to weigh on him and we're definitely going to see a transformation in Rick in the episodes to come.
IGN: What about his status with his family? We saw Carl's reaction in the moment, but with Lori just having warmed up to Shane a bit in this episode in addition to their history together, what's the relationship going to be like between her and Rick now?
Kirkman: Well, you're assuming they don't all die next episode.
IGN: [laughs] That is true, I am assuming. At this point though, I can't say I'd be surprised!
Kirkman: [laughs] But assuming they don't all die, that's definitely going to be something we'll be dealing with. Lori has a very conflicted relationship with Rick and Shane, and it seemed to be see-sawing back and forth for a while there. I don't think she really knew where things were going to land and there was definitely a sense of her trying to deal with the different things that she'd been mad at Shane for, and possibly accepting them to the point where she didn't necessarily see him as much of a bad guy. How that's going to affect their relationship with Rick moving forward is definitely something that we're going to be dealing with next episode and beyond.
IGN: And with the next episode being the season finale, is there anything you want to leave for our readers heading into that last episode?
Kirkman: I can say that we start the last episode with a certain cast that we do not end the episode with. I think that we're definitely going to lose the characters along the way and things are going to change quite drastically by the end of the episode. Be on the lookout for a pretty crazy episode.
The Walking Dead: Cataclysm!
Robert Kirkman discusses "Better Angels."
March 12, 2012
by Joey Esposito
After two status-quo changing episodes in a row, it's probably a good thing that next week's episode of The Walking Dead is the last of the season. I'm going to need the summer to catch my breath.
This week, creator Robert Kirkman talks about the major events of "Better Angels," the evolution of the zombie plague, and how this episode informs the seasons to come.
There are spoilers within for "Better Angels" and some mild spoilers for the comic book series as well. You've been warned.
Talking Walking Dead: "Better Angels"
IGN Comics: First and foremost: great episode! This is the first time that we've seen hard evidence of the dead coming back to life without being bitten, which is something established in the comics. In Season 1, we saw Jenner studying the disease extensively. So is this something that he might have missed, is withholding, or is it a completely new development in the zombie plague?
Robert Kirkman: I've stated many times that what Jenner whispered [to Rick] is something that we'll be revealing this season. You'll know what he said by the end of this season. We've just watched the next-to-last episode of this season, and we still haven't seen that reveal, but I will say that this scene – where Shane gets stabbed and comes back as a zombie without having been bitten – is definitely something that is going to inform that reveal coming up in the next episode.
IGN: With only Rick and Carl being the ones that know what happened to Shane, combined with this new revelation of the nature of the zombies, are his actions something that Rick could potentially hide from the rest of the group?
Kirkman: I will say that we did see a large herd coming out of the woods at the end of this episode, so it does seem like Rick isn't going to have a lot of time or opportunity to sit the group down at the farm and explain to them what just happened with Shane and what it could possibly mean. It may be something he's forced to keep to himself.
Read IGN TV's Review of "Better Angels"
IGN: Going off that, with the cliffhanger that we left on, I assume the reaction to Shane's death will be a stark contrast to what the group's reaction was to Dale's death. But is that something we'll actually get to in the next episode with all of these zombies charging the farm?
Kirkman: They're not going to have a lot of time to react to anything other than the zombies that are trying to eat them. I don't want to reveal too much about our next episode, but it is going to be utter chaos on the farm. So be on the lookout for something that I feel is somewhat awesome! It's a really, really cool episode.
Talking about Dale's death just for a minute, I will say that you have to recognize that Carl just shot someone who is very much a father figure to him; someone that he loved turned into a zombie and was trying to kill Rick. He definitely saved his father in that moment and that's a good example of what I think Dale's death has done for these characters. I don't think that Carl would've had the strength or courage to be able to pull the trigger on Shane if he hadn't just gone through that ordeal with the swamp walker that ended up killing Dale. So we're already seeing instances of these characters growing and maturing based on the events that they've gone through.
IGN: That plays into my next question, which is that Carl seems to have been getting a lot dumped on him this season. Which is a good thing, in my opinion. But meanwhile, he's feeling conflicted between his father figures of Rick and Shane. Now that Shane's gone, do you think he's more likely to buckle under the pressure of everything that's going on like Shane did, or will he remain more level headed like his actual father?
Kirkman: That remains to be seen. All I can really say is that Carl is going to be one of the most complicated and interesting characters in the series. He's a child growing up in this environment. He's not an adult who knows what life was like before and has had to change his perceptions in order to survive in this world. He's a kid who has no expectations; he has no sense of what civilization is, or what the rules are.
His rules, morals, and ethics are all being informed by these horrible decisions that he's seeing the adults make around him. His reaction to Shane's death isn't necessarily going to be a reaction like anyone who grew up in the same world that you or I did. So he's definitely going to be going down some dark paths and doing some strange things. Whether or not he leans more towards Shane's side of things or Rick's side of things remains to be seen.
IGN: This episode also feels like a huge turning point for Rick, even though he was essentially acting out of self-defense. How is the outcome of this episode going to affect Rick's role as a leader?
Kirkman: The outcome of this episode is going to affect Rick's role as a leader, Rick's personality, Rick's actions, everything involving Rick and the whole group for seasons after this. This is going to be a cataclysmic event that informs things that happen in season 3, season 4, and beyond. This is really a key moment in the life of the series. You're going to see a very different Rick coming out of this episode; bringing him to this level of violence and having him experience what he has to do in order to survive, making the decision to murder his best friend to carry on and protect his wife and son… This is something that's going to weigh on him and we're definitely going to see a transformation in Rick in the episodes to come.
IGN: What about his status with his family? We saw Carl's reaction in the moment, but with Lori just having warmed up to Shane a bit in this episode in addition to their history together, what's the relationship going to be like between her and Rick now?
Kirkman: Well, you're assuming they don't all die next episode.
IGN: [laughs] That is true, I am assuming. At this point though, I can't say I'd be surprised!
Kirkman: [laughs] But assuming they don't all die, that's definitely going to be something we'll be dealing with. Lori has a very conflicted relationship with Rick and Shane, and it seemed to be see-sawing back and forth for a while there. I don't think she really knew where things were going to land and there was definitely a sense of her trying to deal with the different things that she'd been mad at Shane for, and possibly accepting them to the point where she didn't necessarily see him as much of a bad guy. How that's going to affect their relationship with Rick moving forward is definitely something that we're going to be dealing with next episode and beyond.
IGN: And with the next episode being the season finale, is there anything you want to leave for our readers heading into that last episode?
Kirkman: I can say that we start the last episode with a certain cast that we do not end the episode with. I think that we're definitely going to lose the characters along the way and things are going to change quite drastically by the end of the episode. Be on the lookout for a pretty crazy episode.
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
about the huge spoiler that was posted.......
about the huge spoiler that was posted.......
if the spoiler is true, then Lori just became my worst character in the show, so she gets mad and freaked about about Shane's death, wasn't that was she was doing to Rick when telling him about Shane? I mean, what did she think was going to happenwtF?
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Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
Great, more screen time with ____ing Carl.
Great, more screen time with ____ing Carl.
Ryanfromindiana
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I just wanna say again that Lori is awful. I also hope that if T-dog survives they beef up his character next season, he could and should be a great member of the crew.
I just wanna say again that Lori is awful. I also hope that if T-dog survives they beef up his character next season, he could and should be a great member of the crew.
Kross
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S Shane dead I'd thought he stay around longer then he did. And I didnt mean spoil what happen
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greygoose
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In reagrds to Carl, surely the child actor is going to grow up faster than the timeline in the show. Like what happened with Walt in Lost. They had to cut him out of the show because he grew up faster than the shows timeline.
In reagrds to Carl, surely the child actor is going to grow up faster than the timeline in the show. Like what happened with Walt in Lost. They had to cut him out of the show because he grew up faster than the shows timeline.
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Sorry if it's been posted.
[ame]https://youtu.be/uYAaIOB11yw[/ame]
Sorry if it's been posted.
[ame]https://youtu.be/uYAaIOB11yw[/ame]
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
Walking Dead would be perfect for Sideshow to do, both comic and tv based. PF's, 1/6 and statues.
Walking Dead would be perfect for Sideshow to do, both comic and tv based. PF's, 1/6 and statues.
devilof76
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It's pretty easy to patronize on the internet and dribble cliches about moral equivalence too. Doesn't mean that it makes any more sense than whatever noises the bozo with his beer makes when he gets drunk and patriotic. One just sounds less pretentious and condescending.
Of course, dismissing an argument with "horse____" could give the same impression, but then the argument would have to warrant a more meaningful response. Arguing subjectivism will always be a gimmick, and I'll call it what it is. I'd think that someone who claims to have witnessed murder first hand would have a better grasp of its nature, but I guess it takes more than experience to sort those things out.
It's pretty easy to assume something from the comfort of a living room couch with a beer in your hand. An entirely different story when you've actually been in a hostile environment more threatening than a simple risk of mugging.
It's pretty easy to patronize on the internet and dribble cliches about moral equivalence too. Doesn't mean that it makes any more sense than whatever noises the bozo with his beer makes when he gets drunk and patriotic. One just sounds less pretentious and condescending.
Of course, dismissing an argument with "horse____" could give the same impression, but then the argument would have to warrant a more meaningful response. Arguing subjectivism will always be a gimmick, and I'll call it what it is. I'd think that someone who claims to have witnessed murder first hand would have a better grasp of its nature, but I guess it takes more than experience to sort those things out.
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
Lori (or Lauri) has a magic _____ like Angeline Jolie! Men be crazy!!!
Yea, you women ruin everything.
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I think the message particularly Martin Scorsese seems to want to convey is if your powerful, don't get married.
Lori (or Lauri) has a magic _____ like Angeline Jolie! Men be crazy!!!
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