The WWE Thread

[Bannister]

I think Scott Hall is a lost cause.

Having seen that espn piece on him last year and already being aware of his drug history I am shocked he is still alive.

 

[thenammagazine]

Having seen that espn piece on him last year and already being aware of his drug history I am shocked he is still alive.

I feel the same way about Jake Smith Jr.

 

[karamazov80]

Help me out here, I know that Punk & Cena have their own storylines to follow. But if Lauringitis is trying to bring back "legitimacy" to the WWE why would you sic Lesnar on Cena? Wouldn't it make more sense to make Lesnar go after the WWE title?

Despite Punk's popularity, Cena is still the face of the company. I'm sure Lesnar will have ample opportunity to go after the title later on.

 

[DinoLast]

Wow that Smackdown blast from the past special SUCKED! And it looks like that great RAW that happened after Wrestlemania was a one off, and it's back to being crap again. Also do you see how the WWE are manipulating the fans to cheer for Cena by making Brock buddy up to John Laryngitis, I hope it fails and Cena gets booed out of the Extreme rules arena.

 

[karamazov80]

Wow that Smackdown blast from the past special SUCKED! And it looks like that great RAW that happened after Wrestlemania was a one off, and it's back to being crap again. Also do you see how the WWE are manipulating the fans to cheer for Cena by making Brock buddy up to John Laryngitis, I hope it fails and Cena gets booed out of the Extreme rules arena.

Yep, I agree with you on all points. Though I think they succeeded more at getting fans to boo Lesnar more than to cheer Cena. The end of last night's show was ridiculous, with all the legends hanging around and celebrating with Seamus after the predictably "comical" defeat of Bryan and humiliation of Cole. I guess the WWE went into a time warp and thought it was 1992 again.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ja0SVjLWCw[/ame]

 

[FLOSI]

Jesus... I don't watch much at all anymore, but the sequence with Mark Henry and Randy Orton wrestling with Cowboy Bob watching on the monitor was so damn predictable.... And my goodness, Sheamus is horrible, mic work sucks and wrestling ability sucks. Give the title to Heath Slater and get it over with.

 

[karamazov80]

Give the title to Heath Slater and get it over with.

Word. . . . .

 

[thenammagazine]

Wow that Smackdown blast from the past special SUCKED! And it looks like that great RAW that happened after Wrestlemania was a one off, and it's back to being crap again. Also do you see how the WWE are manipulating the fans to cheer for Cena by making Brock buddy up to John Laryngitis, I hope it fails and Cena gets booed out of the Extreme rules arena.

I didn't really think it was all that great, really. Punk defends his title the night after defending it at Wrestlemania? Talk about diluting it. As for Cena/Brock, I'm surprised they didn't pull a switcheroo and try having Brock as the babyface and Cena turning heel. In the end I think fans are bored and neither really offer any promise of anything even remotely epic. The WWE needs some stiffer competition to make things interesting again.

 

[karamazov80]

Maybe it was because of the fan reaction more than anything else, the return of Brock, and surprising support of Bryan, but I thought that was a pretty great Raw. We'll see how Brock turns out, though. I do think the fans were a bit underwhelmed by his mike skills this last Monday. Many of them probably never saw his first go around, are just supportive of him because of the hype, and had unreasonable expectations in that department.

 

[FLOSI]

I didn't really think it was all that great, really. Punk defends his title the night after defending it at Wrestlemania? Talk about diluting it. As for Cena/Brock, I'm surprised they didn't pull a switcheroo and try having Brock as the babyface and Cena turning heel. In the end I think fans are bored and neither really offer any promise of anything even remotely epic. The WWE needs some stiffer competition to make things interesting again.

Cena as a heal with a stable, perhaps flat out dropping the white rapper gimmick and thankfully the jorts/sneakers combo, would be just the twist the WWE needs... Still, it would be best to fit him with a top babyface, not a returning Lesnar.... maybe that's the issue? Does the WWE have a top babyface right now? They try to play Cena off as one but the crowd reaction says otherwise.

 

[karamazov80]

Does the WWE have a top babyface right now?

Closest thing they have after Cena is Punk, but he's too clever and sarcastic to catch on with the audience that loves Cena. I think both of those guys appeal to the two major demographics that the WWE wants to target. Randy Orton is in a distant third. I don't know that he has the charisma to really become the number one guy on the number one show (Raw).

 

[thenammagazine]

Maybe it was because of the fan reaction more than anything else, the return of Brock, and surprising support of Bryan, but I thought that was a pretty great Raw. We'll see how Brock turns out, though. I do think the fans were a bit underwhelmed by his mike skills this last Monday. Many of them probably never saw his first go around, are just supportive of him because of the hype, and had unreasonable expectations in that department.

They need to maneuver him into a Goldberg-esque roll where he just comes out (lose the goofy dance) and runs down the ramp, stuffs his opponents and then heads back up the ramp after the win. He's got a hell of a lot more going than a spear, so his matches can be that much more devastating. Plus, I think there's been enough time between Goldberg's exit that they'd be able to capture a similar momentum for Brock at least for a little while. They just need to keep the mic away from him and let the hype act as a promo for him instead.

 

[karamazov80]

In other words--the same way they first built up Brock

I agree. Who can play the role of the Hardy Boys 2.0?

 

[thenammagazine]

In other words--the same way they first built up Brock

I agree. Who can play the role of the Hardy Boys 2.0?

Whatever happened to Dibiase Jr? After watching Marine 2, I was actually surprised the dude can act. They should be giving him a push as a babyface and trying to milk potential there, especially given his pedigree. Instead, they're fooling around with Cena who's played out, Punk, whose wimpy version of Austin's gimmick is limited at best and Randy Orton who still, despite all the push he's received, hasn't yet caught on as much as he should've.

 

[FLOSI]

Whatever happened to Dibiase Jr? After watching Marine 2, I was actually surprised the dude can act. They should be giving him a push as a babyface and trying to milk potential there, especially given his pedigree. Instead, they're fooling around with Cena who's played out, Punk, whose wimpy version of Austin's gimmick is limited at best and Randy Orton who still, despite all the push he's received, hasn't yet caught on as much as he should've.

Dude, they're just about given up on him.... zero pressence.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, Dibiase, Jr. lacks "it."

 

[DinoLast]

Who needs Goldberg when they have Ryberg, I mean Ryback now.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwb_DZVEGuM[/ame]
I wonder how long this gimmick lasts? Good clothesline, but that's thanks to Barry Stevens selling it

 

[thenammagazine]

Yeah, Dibiase, Jr. lacks "it."

Well, so does Daniel Bryan, but look at the push they gave him.

Who needs Goldberg when they have Ryberg, I mean Ryback now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwb_DZVEGuM
I wonder how long this gimmick lasts? Good clothesline, but that's thanks to Barry Stevens selling it

This just emphasizes why I don't watch Smackdown anymore. It's only marginally (and I use that word loosely) better than TNA which is completely unwatchable. It's where the WWE deadbeats go before being put to pasture for Total Nonstop Ass Wrestling.

 

[FLOSI]

The fans like Daniel Bryan though...

What happened to Ryan Mason?

 

[Phil Sierra]

Booker T's commentary alone is one reason why I don't watch Smackdown. How did he get that gig? Say what you want about Michael Cole, but at least I can understand him.