The WWE Thread

[DinoLast]

I can't believe I forgot to mention this. Josh Matthews "breaking his neck" going through a freakin curtain.

I guess he really is a pencil neck.

Yeah and Paul Bearer is being treated for hypothermia, even though he's died 3 times before.

 

[Phil Sierra]

I think Extreme Rules matches were better than WM.

Spoiler

John Cena won the match but it looks like his arm is messed up pretty bad. He'll probably be taking time off for that.

 

[The Ringer]

I think Extreme Rules matches were better than WM.

Spoiler

John Cena won the match but it looks like his arm is messed up pretty bad. He'll probably be taking time off for that.

I didn't watch it unfortunately, looked good from the pics.

Loved seeing lesnar destroy HHH.

 

[Natrix]

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Punk vs Bryan in 3 weeks for the title! Hopefully they get an hour to wrestle.

 

[xYx]

Wow. Seriously? Lawler? & no Ziggler as well?
They should seriously stop this "Brand" ____ as well since any wrestler from any brand can challenge who ever the ____ they want.

They should have an Iron Man match for Punk & Bryan. YES! YES! YES!

 

[karamazov80]

Damn. I went jogging for the last hour of RAW and missed the Bryan thing. Will have to catch the rerun this weekend.

 

[Phil Sierra]

Lord Tensai looks like a fat Shredder.

 

[xYx]

Lord Tensai looks like a fat Shredder.

& Bogus Clay looks like a fat Lord Tensai.

 

[thenammagazine]

Big WTFs this Raw.....

So apparently a Diva can come out of nowhere and instantly get a title shot? Brodus and his freaky sexy dancing now includes kids in the ring (somebody call Dateline NBC/Chris Hansen)?! Daniel "Snoozefest" Bryan has a shot at the WWE Championship now after a record loss to Shanus? REALLY?! Beth Phoenix isn't medically cleared to wrestle because of a severely sprained ankle but John Cena, supposedly having a similar sprain in his arm, is?! Does the WWE really think it's fans are this ____ing stupid?

The good: Harlem Heat II (Kofy and R-Truth) won the Tag Team Championships. I'm actually hoping this'll reinvigorate the belts.

 

[Nitro]

Big WTFs this Raw.....

So apparently a Diva can come out of nowhere and instantly get a title shot? Brodus and his freaky sexy dancing now includes kids in the ring (somebody call Dateline NBC/Chris Hansen)?! Daniel "Snoozefest" Bryan has a shot at the WWE Championship now after a record loss to Shanus? REALLY?! Beth Phoenix isn't medically cleared to wrestle because of a severely sprained ankle but John Cena, supposedly having a similar sprain in his arm, is?! Does the WWE really think it's fans are this ____ing stupid?

The good: Harlem Heat II (Kofy and R-Truth) won the Tag Team Championships. I'm actually hoping this'll reinvigorate the belts.

Having somebody come out of nowhere and instantly get a title shot isn't new in the WWE universe. Remember guys like Christian (Light Heavyweight Championship), Carlito (US Championship), and Santino (Intercontinental Championship) all won the titles on their debuts. Having Layla take the Divas Belts works on both accounts because: 1) The Bellas put their notice to leave the WWE weeks ago. They had to drop the belts to a face that is over with the crowd. 2) having a fresh face hold the belt will set up a feud/program with Beth Phoenix or Kharma.

As far as Brodus, it's a comedy act to lighten up the event. Having little kids come to the ring isn't anything new. Wrestlers like Hacksaw Jim Duggan and others have done it in the past. Mysterio, John Morrison, Big Show, etc have all been giving away event worn swag to kids during their entrances. It's a way to cater to the younger audiences the same way wrestlers like Bret Hart did for us when we were younger. If the Funkosaurus can bring in another market for the WWE to cater to, then it's good business for WWE as a whole.

YES YES YES!! Daniel Bryan is super over right now and the WWE brass are high on him as a top tier talent at the moment (regardless of the 18 second title loss at WM against Sheamus). Daniel Bryan vs CM Punk will have an excellent program leading into the next PPV. It's something that WWE fans have been actually clamoring for. Remember in a beat the clock challenge, Bryan actually earned his right to face Punk as a number 1 competitor. It's not like they just handed it to him (although you can argue that he just had to beat Lawler ).

As far as Cena, he came out to the ring because he had to. It was a set-up by Laurenitus to set thing up for a feud between Cena/Tensai for the next couple of months. Hence the reason why Laurenitus is facing an "injured" Cena at the next PPV. Wouldn't make sense for Mr Excitement to face a "heathy" Cena with his on air character. I'm sure that the match will get the "non sanctioned" label with Cena's "injury". Cena will face Tensai as retribution.

With the massive influx of talent, WWE needs a tag team divison right now. They are so deep in talent...it's not even funny. I can't wait until guys like Dean Ambrose, Ritchie Steamboat, & Seth Rollins debut....but with the overload of talent...you can only go so far as a singles star. Hopefully we'll see the Tag Team Division get the respect it deserves.

 

[thenammagazine]

I dunno. Just seemed like RAW light. Worse than the post-Wrestlemania Raw and the stories were ridiculous. How many times did they replay a fat chunk of that segment with Brock and Hunter? 3-4 times? Did they not have enough talent on hand last night?

 

[Kiva]

Raw was ____.

I half wonder if the reason they made Brock break hunters arm to "fire himself" was to give him time off to cool down because he legit lost his temper after the PPV and went off at officials and trashed his locker room when Cena no sold the beating and did a promo after the match when as Far was Brock knew he was meant to lose the match but make it look like he won the war with Cena being carried out.

 

[thenammagazine]

Raw was ____.

I half wonder if the reason they made Brock break hunters arm to "fire himself" was to give him time off to cool down because he legit lost his temper after the PPV and went off at officials and trashed his locker room when Cena no sold the beating and did a promo after the match when as Far was Brock knew he was meant to lose the match but make it look like he won the war with Cena being carried out.

Why would he lose his temper though? The outcome and promo were likely scripted. It's not like this ____ is real.

Maybe he's got poop floating around his body cavity again and needs time off to have another surgery?

 

[karamazov80]

Big WTFs this Raw.....

So apparently a Diva can come out of nowhere and instantly get a title shot? Brodus and his freaky sexy dancing now includes kids in the ring (somebody call Dateline NBC/Chris Hansen)?! Daniel "Snoozefest" Bryan has a shot at the WWE Championship now after a record loss to Shanus? REALLY?! Beth Phoenix isn't medically cleared to wrestle because of a severely sprained ankle but John Cena, supposedly having a similar sprain in his arm, is?! Does the WWE really think it's fans are this ____ing stupid?

The good: Harlem Heat II (Kofy and R-Truth) won the Tag Team Championships. I'm actually hoping this'll reinvigorate the belts.

It is funny that I was watching the Bret Hart/HBK interview with Jim Lawler on Netflix, and Bret Hart brought up how he thought it was totally inappropriate for Shawn to be dancing with kids in the ring while he did his strip tease thing. Shawn thought it was no big deal, and just the same as Bret putting sunglasses on a kid at ringside, then Bret gave a look like Shawn was out of his mind

I guess you are officially a hater on Bryan at this point, and that's too bad, because if you can't look at his work objectively you're missing out on one of the best in-ring talents to come along in years. I might actually buy that PPV just for that match.

With the massive influx of talent, WWE needs a tag team divison right now. They are so deep in talent...it's not even funny. I can't wait until guys like Dean Ambrose, Ritchie Steamboat, & Seth Rollins debut....but with the overload of talent...you can only go so far as a singles star. Hopefully we'll see the Tag Team Division get the respect it deserves.

I agree. With guys including the former Tyler Black, Claudio Castagnioli, Chris Hero, and all the current hard workers like Tyson Kidd, Kofi Kingston, and Dolph Ziggler, WWE is only hurting itself by not giving these guys a more genuine opportunity to matter at some level.

 

[thenammagazine]

It is funny that I was watching the Bret Hart/HBK interview with Jim Lawler on Netflix, and Bret Hart brought up how he thought it was totally inappropriate for Shawn to be dancing with kids in the ring while he did his strip tease thing. Shawn thought it was no big deal, and just the same as Bret putting sunglasses on a kid at ringside, then Bret gave a look like Shawn was out of his mind

Yup. I don't see how anybody can think it was anywhere near appropriate, let alone excuse Brodus' pelvic grind and booty shake while holding hands with kids.

I guess you are officially a hater on Bryan at this point, and that's too bad, because if you can't look at his work objectively you're missing out on one of the best in-ring talents to come along in years. I might actually buy that PPV just for that match.

Waiting to be wowed. Not fully hating, but bored to death with his "persona." He wasn't that bad during his brief stint as a babyface. As a heel though, he's boring and completely lacks the mic skills to pull it off.

I agree. With guys including the former Tyler Black, Claudio Castagnioli, Chris Hero, and all the current hard workers like Tyson Kidd, Kofi Kingston, and Dolph Ziggler, WWE is only hurting itself by not giving these guys a more genuine opportunity to matter at some level.

All that potential rotting while they throw in some extremely hum drum matches for Raw. I'm not getting the Tensai push either. Bloom failed as A-Train and will fail again here too regardless of how hard he tries to be Vader.

 

[karamazov80]

WWE has always put guys on TV that didn't deserve it IMO, but. . .like I think I said before, better what they are doing than TNA, which is bursting at the seems with great talent and has zero ____ing idea how to use any of it well. WWE has always given fans of in-ring performance a little of what they want, but they've never been what WCW was circa 1996/97, where guys like Regal, Mysterio, Jericho, Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero, Psychosis, and Ultimo Dragon would be paired against each other constantly.

For me, the jury is out with Tensai. I haven't seen much of his Japanese work, but the real test for me will be how he can perform in genuine (non-squash) matches. On the surface, he's not as imposing to me as the WWE seems to think he is, which I guess is how he appeared in Japan. I thought Albert/A-Train was pretty forgettable in his earlier stint. I keep thinking there will be more to Tensai, but maybe there isn't.

 

[thenammagazine]

WWE has always put guys on TV that didn't deserve it IMO, but. . .like I think I said before, better what they are doing than TNA, which is bursting at the seems with great talent and has zero ____ing idea how to use any of it well. WWE has always given fans of in-ring performance a little of what they want, but they've never been what WCW was circa 1996/97, where guys like Regal, Mysterio, Jericho, Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero, Psychosis, and Ultimo Dragon would be paired against each other constantly.

For me, the jury is out with Tensai. I haven't seen much of his Japanese work, but the real test for me will be how he can perform in genuine (non-squash) matches. On the surface, he's not as imposing to me as the WWE seems to think he is, which I guess is how he appeared in Japan. I thought Albert/A-Train was pretty forgettable in his earlier stint. I keep thinking there will be more to Tensai, but maybe there isn't.

Tensai works in Japan where the average male is 5'7" and under 150lbs. However, in the WWE, where the average wrestler is taller and heavier, it doesn't fly. He comes off more as an angry fatman than the Goldberg they're trying to play him as. The only thing he's physically imposing to is the catering tables.

 

[karamazov80]

I think you're right. I think the WWE has been lacking in monster heels that could make other guys piss their pants (closest thing they've had recently was Kane and freakin' Mark Henry until Brock and Tensai came along), and I think that's important for the company, so I really want Tensai to succeed. But I'm not sure if he'll be convincing in big matches. The potential analogy here is with Scott Norton, who was huge in Japan, and had great in-ring skills, but never got the right push in the U.S. (in my opinion). He could have been the next Big Van Vader, but WCW stuck him with other B-list NWO guys so he was teaming with Bagwell or whomever. Tensai may well have those skills now, but I just haven't seen enough to know yet.

 

[thenammagazine]

I think you're right. I think the WWE has been lacking in monster heels that could make other guys piss their pants (closest thing they've had recently was Kane and freakin' Mark Henry until Brock and Tensai came along), and I think that's important for the company, so I really want Tensai to succeed. But I'm not sure if he'll be convincing in big matches. The potential analogy here is with Scott Norton, who was huge in Japan, and had great in-ring skills, but never got the right push in the U.S. (in my opinion). He could have been the next Big Van Vader, but WCW stuck him with other B-list NWO guys so he was teaming with Bagwell or whomever. Tensai may well have those skills now, but I just haven't seen enough to know yet.

I know White's enjoying his stint as a babyface ATM, but honestly, if they want an imposing monstrosity, other than Jacobs, he's the one to do it. I was never sold on Kali as the dude always looks like he's one match away from a crippling knee injury. There's a LOT of potential with Ryan, but they're either not using him right, or he has zero mic skills.

 

[karamazov80]

Who is Ryan?

By the way, WWE's website is so cheap. It's got all these lame pop-ups and banners. I would figure they would bring in enough revenue not to result to that sort of thing.