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True Nazi-ism such as what you describe should of course be opposed. I just no longer believe without question that everyone who the left calls a Nazi actually is a Nazi.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some who would intimate that I must be a Nazi merely for saying what I've just said. This is where society seems to be at now, it's ridiculous.
 
The only problem with that reasoning is: Communism happens to be an economic ideology based on wealth redistribution by the State. Nazi-ism is a cult, that's entirely focused on White Supremacy, with a group of people who believe that they are superior to others simply because of their race. You can resolve your differences with a Communist, and debate them on the merits of a free market versus a command economy. But, you absolutely cannot resolve your differences with a Nazi who believes that you don't have a right to exist - e.g. WWII and the eradication of killed six million Jews (that pretty sums up their entire philosophy). Seriously, what the hell would you even discuss with a Nazi - "Why you shouldn't kill me"?

Yeah Joseph Stalin was a saint.
 
True Nazi-ism such as what you describe should of course be opposed. I just no longer believe without question that everyone who the left calls a Nazi actually is a Nazi.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some who would intimate that I must be a Nazi merely for saying what I've just said. This is where society seems to be at now, it's ridiculous.

Yeah, the term, "Nazi" gets overused, and its gotten ridiculous that any gets accused of being one now days. But, I think batfan had the right take on this :lol. If someone brandishes a Nazi flag, or swastika in public then they're a Nazi. They're literally telling you that they're a Nazi.
 
The only problem with that reasoning is: Communism happens to be an economic ideology based on wealth redistribution by the State. Nazi-ism is a cult, that's entirely focused on White Supremacy, with a group of people who believe that they are superior to others simply because of their race. You can resolve your differences with a Communist, and debate them on the merits of a free market versus a command economy. But, you absolutely cannot resolve your differences with a Nazi who believes that you don't have a right to exist - e.g. WWII and the eradication of killed six million Jews (that pretty sums up their entire philosophy). Seriously, what the hell would you even discuss with a Nazi - "Why you shouldn't kill me"?

True Nazi-ism such as what you describe should of course be opposed. I just no longer believe without question that everyone who the left calls a Nazi actually is a Nazi.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some who would intimate that I must be a Nazi merely for saying what I've just said. This is where society seems to be at now, it's ridiculous.

Yeah, the term, "Nazi" gets overused, and its gotten ridiculous that any gets accused of being one now days. But, I think batfan had the right take on this :lol. If someone brandishes a Nazi flag, or swastika in public then they're a Nazi. They're literally telling you that they're a Nazi.


this might be the smartest and most analytical video on this whole thing that I have ever seen.
this guy nails the whole problem.
if you wanna see the truth, above all the bs from the regular media, you should watch this, he tells it like it is, a smart analytical detailed look at what happened in Charlottesville as well as the Alt Right and Nazis

 
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Joseph Stalin massacred his own people, including other Communists who opposed him. It's good to know your history...

Yeah, Communism is so much better than pseudo beta male Nazis. The opposing side of it is Antifa, that are a bunch of Marxist windbags. Who attack people they don't agree with, they threw a tantrum in Portland. Cops don't even intervene when they attack people.

But somehow you're under this impression, that some good ole rednecks that make up such a small sect of the country's beliefs... is somehow a threat to society functioning? They're wimps. They're no different than Farrakhan preaching hate against Whites.

Division will continue to be the standard in this country until you treat all hate the same.
 
this might be the greatest and most analytical video on this whole thing that I have ever seen.
this guy nails the whole problem.
if you wanna see the truth, above all the bs from the regular media, you should watch this, he tells it like it is, a smart analytical detailed look at what happened in Charlottesville as well as the Alt Right and Nazis



I'll give that a watch now. Ben is always incredibly blunt with facts.
 
I'll give that a watch now. Ben is always incredibly blunt with facts.

The thing I loved is that he has no stake on either side, so he DOES tells it like it is, he wont cuddle the left of defend the right. NONE of the regular media will tell you the fights that broke out before the car accident and no one is talking about how the police were told to stand down...... which is incredibly suspicious and weird.
 
The thing I loved is that he has no stake on either side, so he DOES tells it like it is, he wont cuddle the left of defend the right. NONE of the regular media will tell you the fights that broke out before the car accident and no one is talking about how the police were told to stand down...... which is incredibly suspicious and weird.

He views everything in a vacuum. Funny how Antifa escalates all these situations, and catches none of the blame. It's WWII Russia VS. Germany. Both equally ****.

I hate all these identity politics groups, if they're not attacking people and peacefully rally or whatever... no one has any right to say they can't.
 
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"NONE of the regular media will tell you the fights that broke out before the car accident [...]"


"car accident"
 
Yeah, Communism is so much better than pseudo beta male Nazis. The opposing side of it is Antifa, that are a bunch of Marxist windbags. Who attack people they don't agree with, they threw a tantrum in Portland. Cops don't even intervene when they attack people.

But somehow you're under this impression, that some good ole rednecks that make up such a small sect of the country's beliefs... is somehow a threat to society functioning? They're wimps. They're no different than Farrakhan preaching hate against Whites.

Division will continue to be the standard in this country until you treat all hate the same.

Antifa are a bunch of violent idiotic thugs, but from what I gather, most of the Left don't agree with their tactics (Antifa also doesn't represent all of Communism). On the other hand, Nazi-ism absolutely isn't divergent in its belief system. It's a death cult. They aren't an advocacy group that's interested in the equal protection of whites in society. They're white supremacists who believe that others don't have the right to exist because of their race, while assuming that being white makes them superior to others. They aren't a threat to the country, but being someone of Jewish ancestry, I'd certainly be disinclined to travel (or even move) to some states. While it's true that they're a small sect, it's certainly troubling that their numbers have been growing in the past few years, and they've become increasingly emboldened. I'd also argue that there are no "good ole rednecks" that make up a small sect of this country's beliefs. If they're Nazis, they're pieces of human s****.

And like I said a few pages back, if one group does something, hold them accountable. It doesn't matter who they are. Don't undermine what they did by simply glossing over generalities about their being so much hate.
 
Antifa are a bunch of violent idiotic thugs, but from what I gather, most of the Left don't agree with their tactics (Antifa also doesn't represent all of Communism). On the other hand, Nazi-ism absolutely isn't divergent in its belief system. It's a death cult. They aren't an advocacy group that's interested in the equal protection of whites in society. They're white supremacists who believe that others don't have the right to exist because of their race, while assuming that being white makes them superior to others. They aren't a threat to the country, but being someone of Jewish ancestry, I'd certainly be disinclined to travel (or even move) to some states. While it's true that they're a small sect, it's certainly troubling that their numbers have been growing in the past few years, and they've become increasingly emboldened. I'd also argue that there are no "good ole rednecks" that make up a small sect of this country's beliefs. If they're Nazis, they're pieces of human s****.

And like I said a few pages back, if one group does something, hold them accountable. It doesn't matter who they are. Don't undermine what they did by simply glossing over generalities about their being so much hate.

I'm not refuting any of that. In the same hand, the Right doesn't want any part of the Alt Right. And there's a lot of weebs online like 4chan and Reddit that think their part of it, and they're really not.

The Alt Right was created by the very identity politics the Left started over the last decade. I'm not condoning whatsoever their beliefs or what they do, but just look at the culture. It's the norm to talk about how awful Whites are... so of course this group is the outcome.

I utterly hate how it's okay to speak like that about Whites, but I didn't go out and join a redneck militia. I just wish everyone would **** off about skin color and religion.
 
I'm not refuting any of that. In the same hand, the Right doesn't want any part of the Alt Right. And there's a lot of weebs online like 4chan and Reddit that think their part of it, and they're really not.

The Alt Right was created by the very identity politics the Left started over the last decade. I'm not condoning whatsoever their beliefs or what they do, but just look at the culture. It's the norm to talk about how awful Whites are... so of course this group is the outcome.

I utterly hate how it's okay to speak like that about Whites, but I didn't go out and join a redneck militia. I just wish everyone would **** off about skin color and religion.

You don't have to tell me about how the Alt-Right has infected Conservatism :lol. Granted, I've become a "more middle-of-the-road" Conservative, but it's gotten to the point where you can't even disagree with someone in the Alt-Right before they curse you out or start making accusations. Since you and crows were talking about Ben Shapiro just now, he wrote a pretty decent article on the whole Charlotte incident, as well as how the media tends to lump all Conservatives as Alt-Right:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/19658/7-things-you-need-know-about-charlottesville-ben-shapiro

(I haven't watched crows' video yet, but I'm sure he probably touched on some, if not all of these topics).

I think the day we get past our differences in skin color and religion... is the day when aliens might finally visit our pitiful species.
 
1. I would appreciate some evidence or support to the idea that the alt right arose out of identity politics of the left, if any, of the last decade. Specifics are welcome (events, dates, people, groups).

2. I am reminded of the incident in france when an isis memeber drove a truck into a crowd of people killing many. As i recall the same did not elicit a debate on politics or society or economics or history on this site or anywhere else. There was no debate as to who was responsible. No discussion on motives or ideology. And it certainly was not called a car accident.
 
The only problem with that reasoning is: Communism happens to be an economic ideology based on wealth redistribution by the State. Nazi-ism is a cult, that's entirely focused on White Supremacy, with a group of people who believe that they are superior to others simply because of their race. You can resolve your differences with a Communist, and debate them on the merits of a free market versus a command economy. But, you absolutely cannot resolve your differences with a Nazi who believes that you don't have a right to exist - e.g. WWII and the eradication of killed six million Jews (that pretty sums up their entire philosophy). Seriously, what the hell would you even discuss with a Nazi - "Why you shouldn't kill me"?


Nope...nope no no no, nopes

Communism is just as terrible and horrific if not more than nazis.
Just as bloody and dangerous of a cult. With just as many victims


 
You don't have to tell me about how the Alt-Right has infected Conservatism :lol. Granted, I've become a "more middle-of-the-road" Conservative, but it's gotten to the point where you can't even disagree with someone in the Alt-Right before they curse you out or start making accusations. Since you and crows were talking about Ben Shapiro just now, he wrote a pretty decent article on the whole Charlotte incident, as well as how the media tends to lump all Conservatives as Alt-Right:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/19658/7-things-you-need-know-about-charlottesville-ben-shapiro

(I haven't watched crows' video yet, but I'm sure he probably touched on some, if not all of these topics).

I think the day we get past our differences in skin color and religion... is the day when aliens might finally visit our pitiful species.

Everything has become very muddy. Ben crystallized what went on at the rally and what the Alt Right is.

Amazing to think they label Ben Alt Right :lol his whole being is the antithesis to it.
 
You don't have to tell me about how the Alt-Right has infected Conservatism :lol. Granted, I've become a "more middle-of-the-road" Conservative, but it's gotten to the point where you can't even disagree with someone in the Alt-Right before they curse you out or start making accusations. Since you and crows were talking about Ben Shapiro just now, he wrote a pretty decent article on the whole Charlotte incident, as well as how the media tends to lump all Conservatives as Alt-Right:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/19658/7-things-you-need-know-about-charlottesville-ben-shapiro

(I haven't watched crows' video yet, but I'm sure he probably touched on some, if not all of these topics).

I think the day we get past our differences in skin color and religion... is the day when aliens might finally visit our pitiful species.

The video goes into great detail and brings up the faults of trump, he greatly critizises him for whats going on
 
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