Things That are Scary

[fosing]

funny story. i know an american with harvard degree got offered a job here in NZ. he's working under a guy who has less qualifications than him. it just happens he's a kiwi who knows the right people.

been in that same situation different scenario.

 

[WWEJedi]

Bullying these days is a lot worse than what we went through, I think...there's the online bullying, texting, etc., that's kindof hard to stop. When I was a kid - and I was bullied a LOT - it stopped when I got home. Now, with being connected all the time, it doesn't.

A few members in this very thread know all about this. Two even said I should die.

I think colleges don't help things. I remember even when I was there they made out like you were some big deal for having a degree. Um, you're not. It doesn't mean much. Get over yourself.

Ok.



No degree means working at McDonalds, Walmart, etc....

It means everything. Degrees from certain schools mean more than degrees from others.

 

[devilof76]

It doesn't mean ****. Get over yourself.

 

[Lejuan]

A few members in this very thread know all about this. Two even said I should die.






Ok.



No degree means working at McDonalds, Walmart, etc....

It means everything. Degrees from certain schools mean more than degrees from others.

The wealthiest friends I have all work in the trades: building, electrical, plumbing, cabinetry, tiling. Not a single degree between them. I don't move in investment banker circles, but these friends are doing well by most measures and all own at least two investment properties.

It's more important why you're getting a degree and how you use it to access a given field. An Arts degree used to hold some value, when tertiary quals of any kind were elite - now it doesn't mean s**t no matter which university it was obtained from.

I teach into a field where my students would be better off going to a technical training college or buying an online tutorial subscription - but somehow they (or their parents) think they'll be better off spending thousands of dollars and three years getting a degree. They're mostly paying for the fancy crest on their testamur.

Congrats on going to university and working towards your degree, but don't buy into the elitist garbage that most degrees represent anything other than one's capacity to hand in assignments over a sustained period of time.

And you gotta let go of the people on this board with whom you have issues. Otherwise that horse will never rest in peace.

 

[hoodonit00]

A few members in this very thread know all about this. Two even said I should die.






Ok.



No degree means working at McDonalds, Walmart, etc....

It means everything. Degrees from certain schools mean more than degrees from others.

Really? I am a machinist. No schooling, learned it all on the job. My wife has a degree in microbiology and is a lab director in a food manufacturing plant. I make 5 dollars more an hour than she does.

 

[hoodonit00]

The wealthiest friends I have all work in the trades: building, electrical, plumbing, cabinetry, tiling. Not a single degree between them. I don't move in investment banker circles, but these friends are doing well by most measures and all own at least two investment properties.

It's more important why you're getting a degree and how you use it to access a given field. An Arts degree used to hold some value, when tertiary quals of any kind were elite - now it doesn't mean s**t no matter which university it was obtained from.

I teach into a field where my students would be better off going to a technical training college or buying an online tutorial subscription - but somehow they (or their parents) think they'll be better off spending thousands of dollars and three years getting a degree. They're mostly paying for the fancy crest on their testamur.

Congrats on going to university and working towards your degree, but don't buy into the elitist garbage that most degrees represent anything other than one's capacity to hand in assignments over a sustained period of time.

And you gotta let go of the people on this board with whom you have issues. Otherwise that horse will never rest in peace.

 

[Mr. Green]

Statistically, people with degree do make more than non degree. But there is always exceptions. Mr. Green used to be a machinist, working in the pharmaceutical industry, working as a temp. After a degree, Mr. Green makes triple, on average. It is painful to start a career at the beginning but worth it.

 

[devilof76]

What you bring to higher education has a lot to do with what you get out of it. A high school education is generally insufficient.

 

[WWEJedi]

I guess I am speaking more in terms of the present/future times with needing a degree. I assume most of you guys without degrees have held your current job for years and years. It just seems like now every job you apply for you need a degree in that field just to get an interview... well at least anyone I know. I understand the other side though. My dad dropped out of college and has a multi-million dollar business. My uncle was an ***** in school and makes good money. I will be the first in my family on either side with a college degree. Honestly... I don't think they could get a degree now and I don't think I could just find a random job and be as successful as they were if the roles were reversed. Personally for me, I have always been told to get a degree and go to college since I was small.

As far as the elitist attitude.... I try not to buy into it. I'm not special for going to college. Millions have and millions will continue to. I am happy to be going to a good school, but others have and others will. I think the only way I would feel a real sense of fulfillment If I was the President honestly. Only 44 men have had the privilege to hold that office. No matter what I do though, millions have done it. It won't be special to me. Whether I am a math teacher, history, economist, political scientist, or even a governor.... not that special. I know that is a bad attitude to have, one should always find fulfillment in their work, but...

I have been told by quite a few people though that degrees from certain schools mean more than degrees from others. I do think that is partially true.

 

[fosing]

The wealthiest friends I have all work in the trades: building, electrical, plumbing, cabinetry, tiling. Not a single degree between them. I don't move in investment banker circles, but these friends are doing well by most measures and all own at least two investment properties.

It's more important why you're getting a degree and how you use it to access a given field. An Arts degree used to hold some value, when tertiary quals of any kind were elite - now it doesn't mean s**t no matter which university it was obtained from.

I teach into a field where my students would be better off going to a technical training college or buying an online tutorial subscription - but somehow they (or their parents) think they'll be better off spending thousands of dollars and three years getting a degree. They're mostly paying for the fancy crest on their testamur.

Congrats on going to university and working towards your degree, but don't buy into the elitist garbage that most degrees represent anything other than one's capacity to hand in assignments over a sustained period of time.

And you gotta let go of the people on this board with whom you have issues. Otherwise that horse will never rest in peace.

RAMEN!!

 

[Snake Plissken]

The wealthiest friends I have all work in the trades: building, electrical, plumbing, cabinetry, tiling. Not a single degree between them. I don't move in investment banker circles, but these friends are doing well by most measures and all own at least two investment properties.

It's more important why you're getting a degree and how you use it to access a given field. An Arts degree used to hold some value, when tertiary quals of any kind were elite - now it doesn't mean s**t no matter which university it was obtained from.

I teach into a field where my students would be better off going to a technical training college or buying an online tutorial subscription - but somehow they (or their parents) think they'll be better off spending thousands of dollars and three years getting a degree. They're mostly paying for the fancy crest on their testamur.

Congrats on going to university and working towards your degree, but don't buy into the elitist garbage that most degrees represent anything other than one's capacity to hand in assignments over a sustained period of time.

And you gotta let go of the people on this board with whom you have issues. Otherwise that horse will never rest in peace.

Funny you mention Art degree. I went for two semesters and bailed on it. I could feel it was going no where and it really wouldn't mean anything in the work force.

unless you are doing STEM, college is a waste

It isn't for everyone. I for one am thankful I stopped short and didn't waste anymore of my money. I got a head start on friends from High School and I'm probably making around the same salary as some of them that went to college.

 

[EVILFACE]

No degree here and am very comfortable in life. Enough to have no debt other than our house, start construction on a new house and excess to blow on unneeded dolls.

A trustworthy spouse is more important than any degree.

 

[thecapn]

As was alluded to, it's not the degree, it's how you use it, and what your field is. Mind you, I'm not dissing degrees - I have an undergrad and 2 grad degrees. They've helped me in my field, for sure.

It's true that there are certain fields - the traditional, white-collar, 9-to-5 type, that requires a degree to get in the door. Mine does. You're not going to be a marine biologist without one. What I meant is you don't NEED a degree to make good money - you just need to be good at what you do, especially when it comes to trades. Seems like a lot of people in here know exactly what I mean.

My wife recently gave up a lucrative banking career to change fields. She was making more than I do...and she had no degree. Just perseverance.

 

[devilof76]

All that said, I'd love to spend the rest of my life as a professional student.

 

[The Ween]

All that said, I'd love to spend the rest of my life as a professional student.

I know someone who is constantly taking online college courses. He works all day and is set money wise. He's in his 60s. He has all kinds of degrees now. He basically does it for fun.

 

[Mr. Green]

That reminds Mr. Green of this old guy that was in his History of Architecture class way back. He took the class because he was so proud of his son, an architect. He wanted to feel what his son went through; at least at the beginning.

And the occasional appearance of a hot girl that Mr. Green don't know if they're part of the class or just visiting here and there.

 

[Solidus]

What I find scary, is there aren't a lot of people with STEM science degrees going around.

 

[devilof76]

I heard the same thing was becoming a problem in Europe. Free college is turning out a lot of useless degrees.

 

[Bjjer]

What I find scary, is there aren't a lot of people with STEM science degrees going around.

It doesn't matter because many companies outsource to India or other Asian countries that churn out many STEM degrees and they get them cheaper than Americans.

 

[devilof76]

Crazy that the jobs would go where the degrees are.