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I can understand that. But flipping burgers, putting frozen fries into oil or taking someones order is not a $15 hour skill set.


I used to be of a different mind set on this, but the more I think about it the more I agree. No one should look at fast food as a viable career choice unless you plan on living in your parents basement and never getting married or having a car or anything nice for your whole life. That is a job for teenagers to get some public skills and responsibility. If you have an eye on management, that is a different story, obviously.
 
One more thing I have been marveling about lately is the difference in Americans over the past 75 years.

Americans used to love freedom.

Now many do not. They love comfort.

They believe they love freedom, but they mistake freedom for comfort.

That is all.
 
There is money to be made if people get a "in demand" degree or learn a trade. A lot of young people think that they can just jump into the work force and make top dollar. That's not how it works. You go to a company at ground level and work your way up. I'm a machinist. The owner of the company I work for has a really hard time hiring people. Young people don't want to get into the trade because it can get dirty, smelly, loud. They also think they should start at a lot higher than what they deserve. We have schools brain washing kids that they must go to college if they want to make something of themselves. They should be telling them to be looking into the trades. Heavy equipment operators, electricians, plumbers, make big money. You just have to through the steps to get your certifications. Far to many kids that do go to college get a useless degree. They get out of school with 50 grand in debt and can't get a decent paying job with the degree they got. Too many have stars in their eyes when thinking about a career. I know the old saying about get a job doing what you love and you'll never work a day in your life. That's nice and all but for many people it's not grounded in reality.

<< Tried in Art, and was smart enough to pull the eject handle on that **** very early into it.
 
<< Tried in Art, and was smart enough to pull the eject handle on that **** very early into it.

I mean I'm not saying that someone can't succeed at it. It's just that far too many don't. You know yourself the best. If you thought ejecting was the right thing to do at the time then it probably was.

Both of my girls were in color guard and dance in school. There was a guy who performed with their group. Very good at dancing and performing. Gay as gay can be. He got accepted to a very accredited arts school to be an actor. Now he was a good looking kid but not like some of the leading men in Hollywood who have come out of the closet. I wish him the best of luck but all I can think about in his situation is he's going to get out of school with 10s of Thousands of dollars of debt with very little chance to make it as an actor.
 
I mean I'm not saying that someone can't succeed at it. It's just that far too many don't. You know yourself the best. If you thought ejecting was the right thing to do at the time then it probably was.

Both of my girls were in color guard and dance in school. There was a guy who performed with their group. Very good at dancing and performing. Gay as gay can be. He got accepted to a very accredited arts school to be an actor. Now he was a good looking kid but not like some of the leading men in Hollywood who have come out of the closet. I wish him the best of luck but all I can think about in his situation is he's going to get out of school with 10s of Thousands of dollars of debt with very little chance to make it as an actor.

I weighed all the variables of committing to it, and it just felt like a waste of my time. Art majors hardly go anywhere after college as far as I know. Not to mention, financial aid was busting my balls constantly with always needing some new information out of me and just became exhausted of it. I loved sketching and taking the class, but it was just a racket to me in the end.

I jumped into the workforce at 18, and I make a respectable living. Could it be more? Sure and I'm always on the look out for new job postings in my department. Some positions give a little bit more money, but are not the worth the headache and inconvenience though. Like most offices and their politics, it's who you know which will get you gains.
 
Sorry, but that's just BS. You need to come to rural America and see what jobs there are to be had. Our town has lost most of it's factory work to overseas. There are people who have to work these kinds of jobs to make a living. Not everyone can get corporate jobs or what's considered high paying jobs anymore. Those jobs are few and far between. It's all become service jobs.

Those same people also have the option to move to where the better paying jobs are located and many times they make the choice to not move.

I'm in Ohio and it's ok. 20 years ago it never would have crossed my mind that I'd live here to make my career/living. But the $$ here in my field is double what it would have been had I returned "home" to Louisiana. For me, there are two major benefits to being an Ohio transplant: 1. the $$ in my field in much better and 2. all family is at least a 10 hr drive away:yess:
 
Those same people also have the option to move to where the better paying jobs are located and many times they make the choice to not move.

I'm in Ohio and it's ok. 20 years ago it never would have crossed my mind that I'd live here to make my career/living. But the $$ here in my field is double what it would have been had I returned "home" to Louisiana. For me, there are two major benefits to being an Ohio transplant: 1. the $$ in my field in much better and 2. all family is at least a 10 hr drive away:yess:

3: found a new wife material every weekend
 
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I can understand that. But flipping burgers, putting frozen fries into oil or taking someones order is not a $15 hour skill set.

I never said they should make $15 an hour, I just think that there are some people who are never going to be more than just check out people at grocery stores. A lot of the ladies at our Kroger for example have been there for decades. They make a decent second income for their family. I would hate to see them lose that due to self checkouts.

You have to take what you can get these days. Sometimes the position you're in can't be helped. I'd rather people at least work at something than to sit and do nothing living off the dole.
 
There is money to be made if people get a "in demand" degree or learn a trade. A lot of young people think that they can just jump into the work force and make top dollar. That's not how it works. You go to a company at ground level and work your way up. I'm a machinist. The owner of the company I work for has a really hard time hiring people. Young people don't want to get into the trade because it can get dirty, smelly, loud. They also think they should start at a lot higher than what they deserve. We have schools brain washing kids that they must go to college if they want to make something of themselves. They should be telling them to be looking into the trades. Heavy equipment operators, electricians, plumbers, make big money. You just have to through the steps to get your certifications. Far to many kids that do go to college get a useless degree. They get out of school with 50 grand in debt and can't get a decent paying job with the degree they got. Too many have stars in their eyes when thinking about a career. I know the old saying about get a job doing what you love and you'll never work a day in your life. That's nice and all but for many people it's not grounded in reality.

I agree, but one problem with the trades is that, at least around here, they want people with experience. You look through the work ads and they want people with years of experience. I guess because there's so many out of work. How is someone fresh out of school suppose to find something? And you never hear about apprenticeships. Do they even do that anymore?

Also, a lot of good paying jobs now require degrees where they didn't use to. My brother retired from Lima Tank Plant here. Now, you have to have a degree to get a line job there. It's silly. They don't want to teach anyone anything anymore. He doesn't even have a high school diploma! He did a lot of dangerous jobs there and he could do about anything. Now.....get a degree to make $18 an hour average.
 
Who is guilty that they will lose their jobs?
Whose fault is it? Thats the point... who is responsible for making stores to look for self checkouts?

It's too save money. You don't have to pay someone nor pay health insurance.

Amazon will one day have very few employees. A lot of stuff is done by computers and robots as it is. If I had a child, that's where I would point them to, trade school and learn robotics or other tech work.
 
Who is guilty that they will lose their jobs?
Whose fault is it? Thats the point... who is responsible for making stores to look for self checkouts?

Efficiency and competition. People profit from it. Lots of people, from low end to higher end, made it efficient and competitive. Some profit from it and some don't. More likely the biggest winners are the investors like in stock market, CEO, management, etc.

Mr. Green once worked as a machinist on a production line. He contributed one critical knowledge that everyone overlooked. Such a simple attention that made the line more efficient and made less defects. Sure there are lots of others that made the line but the point is, the line evolve to be more efficient and competitive. There were roughly 20 employees, all temps, working on the line when he started. By the time he left, around 7. And the company pump these products 24/7.
 
It's too save money. You don't have to pay someone nor pay health insurance.

Amazon will one day have very few employees. A lot of stuff is done by computers and robots as it is. If I had a child, that's where I would point them to, trade school and learn robotics or other tech work.

There's also a very large theft problem from employees so that also factors in


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