Tom Hardy is Venom (2018)

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There are multiple reports Tom Holland *will* be in this movie as Spider-Man in a very minor capacity and that he’s already been spotted with Hardy and the director. No concrete evidence but these things do usually end up being true nowadays.

(Other than all the batfleck rumors anyway those are 0-6 so far... let’s see about the newest one)
 
Apparently Tom Holland's Spidey may actually appear in this one.
There are multiple reports Tom Holland *will* be in this movie as Spider-Man in a very minor capacity.
No concrete evidence.

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This movie is killing me. What the hell is up with this thing. First Spider-Man isn’t in the movie and now he is. Is the venom movie a future timeline Spider-Man enters because of thanos? Or is it still separated? Sheesh.
 
That would be a nice surprise. Spidey is a favorite of mine and I like Holland in the role. I hope he has some good movies ahead of him in the role
 
There are multiple reports Tom Holland *will* be in this movie as Spider-Man in a very minor capacity and that he’s already been spotted with Hardy and the director. No concrete evidence but these things do usually end up being true nowadays.

(Other than all the batfleck rumors anyway those are 0-6 so far... let’s see about the newest one)

IDEALLY - Tying this to the MCU would be a smart business move. It helps "legitimize" any of Sony's more-independent Spider-man projects (with Marvel's input) and doesn't make the efforts seem like "wasted movies" since they are part of a larger congregation (which is what we're kind of seeing with Fox's last couple of X-Men-related movies - fans no longer "care" cause they're likely be rebooted). Why see a random Tom Hardy Venom movie (unless it's REALLY good) when you know we're going to an "official" MCU Venom?

As Marvel manages to regain and re-consolidate their lost character rights, the overall focus seems to be that fans turn to what is being seen as the "official Marvel movie canon" rather than outside side-projects that fall out of that scope.
 
IDEALLY - Tying this to the MCU would be a smart business move. It helps "legitimize" any of Sony's more-independent Spider-man projects (with Marvel's input) and doesn't make the efforts seem like "wasted movies" since they are part of a larger congregation (which is what we're kind of seeing with Fox's last couple of X-Men-related movies - fans no longer "care" cause they're likely be rebooted). Why see a random Tom Hardy Venom movie (unless it's REALLY good) when you know we're going to an "official" MCU Venom?

As Marvel manages to regain and re-consolidate their lost character rights, the overall focus seems to be that fans turn to what is being seen as the "official Marvel movie canon" rather than outside side-projects that fall out of that scope.

Very well said and my thoughts exactly.

Sony is getting this stigma now of rebooting things, and fans are expecting that of them every time a franchise doesn't do well - and honestly, I get it and hard to blame them.

But I think by committing to something via involving other MCU characters who are established (such as Holland's Spider-Man) and making it canon, they can break that stigma. Obviously, it needs to good movie too. :lol I think Hardy was a step in the right direction. I'm definitely a little worried about the story lines they're trying to adapt into film, BUT it's too early for me to decide. I'm definitely hopeful.
 
Very well said and my thoughts exactly.

Sony is getting this stigma now of rebooting things, and fans are expecting that of them every time a franchise doesn't do well - and honestly, I get it and hard to blame them.

But I think by committing to something via involving other MCU characters who are established (such as Holland's Spider-Man) and making it canon, they can break that stigma. Obviously, it needs to good movie too. :lol I think Hardy was a step in the right direction. I'm definitely a little worried about the story lines they're trying to adapt into film, BUT it's too early for me to decide. I'm definitely hopeful.

Indeed - However at the moment it seems a bit of a one way street of love :lol
- Sony:
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Sony can hint at whatever they want, but they don't seem to have a problem spreading misinformation through the media to fans. They are the under dogs here with lackluster and mediocre to poorly made films. Unless it comes directly from Marvel/Feige that Spider-Man will be in this movie & it is part of the MCU, it means nothing.

Sony's Amy Pascal seriously looks like she's off her meds in pictures most of the time. She lost all her professional credibility when the internal Sony emails leaked with the things she said in them. It's amazing she is still employed by Sony after that PR disaster and the failure of the reboot ASM movies. She says things that have no merit, as in the interview with Feige for promoting Homecoming & saying Sony's Spidey spin off films are part of the MCU with Feige looking on confused and then afterwards Marvel had to publicly recant her statements.

I know you guys, & myself, are fans and want to be optimistic, but we have to stop being naive about all this crap. Leaks and rumors are spread to increase interest and buzz in social media. That's all. Most of it can't be trusted. It's a cheap marketing ploy.
 
If Holland appears in this film Feige will have to take it over and make it an official MCU film- he is not going to let this happen without input and control
 
Sony can hint at whatever they want, but they don't seem to have a problem spreading misinformation through the media to fans. They are the under dogs here with lackluster and mediocre to poorly made films. Unless it comes directly from Marvel/Feige that Spider-Man will be in this movie & it is part of the MCU, it means nothing.

Sony's Amy Pascal seriously looks like she's off her meds in pictures most of the time. She lost all her professional credibility when the internal Sony emails leaked with the things she said in them. It's amazing she is still employed by Sony after that PR disaster and the failure of the reboot ASM movies. She says things that have no merit, as in the interview with Feige for promoting Homecoming & saying Sony's Spidey spin off films are part of the MCU with Feige looking on confused and then afterwards Marvel had to publicly recant her statements.

I know you guys, & myself, are fans and want to be optimistic, but we have to stop being naive about all this crap. Leaks and rumors are spread to increase interest and buzz in social media. That's all. Most of it can't be trusted. It's a cheap marketing ploy.

It’s the only way to go. Nobody wants marvel characters outside the mcu anymore except for a small group of people. Xmen dark Phoenix is doomed to fail cause of this. Sony knows they can’t do another universe on there own. It will just fail again so they will try to put it into the mcu as much as they can. This may be a secret mcu movie like everyone keeps saying. Can’t see anybody signing on after the train wreck that was the amazing spiderman movies. No one will be willing to give Sony a chance after 3 tries. And this is coming from someone who use to defend the franchise. A spiderman less universe with just villains is doomed to fail hard
 
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