Tom Hardy is Venom (2018)

[Victοr]

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But Flash is the All-American, All-Aryan guy. That's his niche. And that's why his transformation from victim of abuse, to bully, to soldier to Agent Venom works so well. After HS he tried to set things right with Pete and get his life on track, but considering he had no Academic Success, joining the army was his only choice. Making him "an intellectual rival" completely misses the point of the character.

 

[Khev]

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High School Jock Eugene "Flash" Thomson is here to steal yo girl, put you in the locker and **** your mom. Look at him and cower!

I assume he won't be a bully then? Hollywood wouldn't dare make a non-white person a jerk/bad guy.

 

[Victοr]

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I assume he won't be a bully then? Hollywood wouldn't dare make a non-white person a jerk/bad guy.

All I know is that he's an "intellectual rival". So they're practically trying a Von Doom/Richards scenario and I gu-Oh... God. It just hit me... If Marvel ever gets the F4 rights back, they're gonna make Doom a POC due to his mixed Roma roots... And he's not even gonna be doing magic, just quantum physiblblala. Oh dear... Fox better make a good F4 Reboot! Complete with Science Wizard who battles Demons Doom!

 

[crows]

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I assume he won't be a bully then? Hollywood wouldn't dare make a non-white person a jerk/bad guy.

Their reasoning for the bullying is that todays bullies are not necessarily though big guys anymore but todays bullying is more psychological and verbal

 

[Captain Clown]

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Their reasoning for the bullying is that todays bullies are not necessarily though big guys anymore but todays bullying is more psychological and verbal

 

[Khev]

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Their reasoning for the bullying is that todays bullies are not necessarily though big guys anymore but todays bullying is more psychological and verbal

But then what't the reasoning for making a non-white bad guy? To Hollywood that's a big no no.

 

[RIDDICK]

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Imagine if "Spider-man 3" was a different (good) movie, Raimiverse wasn't dead and they were doin' Flash justice.
We'd be gettin' "Agent Venom" starrin' Joe freakin' Manganiello right now.
Man, this is sad...

 

[Victοr]

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Imagine if "Spider-man 3" was a different and good movie, Raimiverse wasn't dead and they were doin' Flash justice.
We'd be gettin' "Agent Venom" starrin' Joe freakin' Manganiello right now.
Man, this is sad...

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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All I know is that he's an "intellectual rival". So they're practically trying a Von Doom/Richards scenario and I gu-Oh... God. It just hit me... If Marvel ever gets the F4 rights back, they're gonna make Doom a POC due to his mixed Roma roots... And he's not even gonna be doing magic, just quantum physiblblala. Oh dear... Fox better make a good F4 Reboot! Complete with Science Wizard who battles Demons Doom!

If they did...I hope they pair him up with Dr. Strange eventually

 

[RIDDICK]

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[Victοr]

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If they did...I hope they pair him up with Dr. Strange eventually

The MCU is never gonna do Doom justice though. They'll probably cast a POC to appease the SJWs, tone him down and turn him into a corny joke. The first part is a given, the others are to be expected. There's this notion that Romas are dark-skinned, but the ones residing in the Balkans are as white as the rest of us. Add to that that his father is of Germanic origin, and Doom should look like your standard European guy. But nah, the Tumblrinas want someone as dark as MBJ, apparently, or a Spanish Flemngo dancer who has some Roma blood.

Casting issues aside, it really would be hard for the MCU to do him justice. Considering magic in this Universe is pretty tame and without any occult influences, Doom loses what makes him unique. He is a character deeply rooted in Folklore, Occultism, 60s Mad-Scientists and whatnot. Take away his brutallity and viciousness on certain ocassions, and he loses the "fear" factor.

I am sorry to say it, but the only chance for a good Doom represantation is an R-Rated solo flick by Fox.

 

[crows]

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But then what't the reasoning for making a non-white bad guy? To Hollywood that's a big no no.

Well the villain is white birdman so i guess this gets a pass. Almost all the students around him are non white because " it is new york" so then i guess this bully gets a pass

 

[ironwez20]

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I understand not wanting to get a white guy and i get wanting diversity but why not hire a guy like this?

Thats what makes no sense to me. They could have easily gotten a latino hunk.

Somthing stupid Holland said like " physical bullies don't exist anymore and words hurt more or some bs" like kids don't fight anymore. Kids fight all the time.

 

[Khev]

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Somthing stupid Holland said like " physical bullies don't exist anymore and words hurt more or some bs" like kids don't fight anymore. Kids fight all the time.

Oh wow. I can see it now:

Flash: "My dad voted for Trump!"

*Holland frantically looks for Legos and coloring books, can't find them, dies*

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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Somthing stupid Holland said like " physical bullies don't exist anymore and words hurt more or some bs" like kids don't fight anymore. Kids fight all the time.

****...we kicked each other's ass every day when I was in school...We used to take people out back behind the school after football practice and beat their ass

 

[Victοr]

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Oh wow. I can see it now:

Flash: "My dad voted for Trump!"

*Holland frantically looks for Legos and coloring books, can't find them, dies*

Ganke is a major Lego fan, which has carried over to Homecoming. The WTF thing is that, the kid who looks exactly like Ganke, is called "Ned Leeds" (yeah, Betty's husband turned Hobgoblin proxy), and the kid playing Ganke is a scrawny white kid... I still don't know why the hell they did what they did. What does swapping names achieve?!

 

[Khev]

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I really wish Keaton wasn't in this movie. His involvement is basically forcing me to check it out.

 

[Victοr]

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I really wish Keaton wasn't in this movie. His involvement is basically forcing me to check it out.

He is the only reason I'll be watching this, TBH. I'm fed up with High Scool Spider-Man BS, and a HS Trilogy makes me wanna puke. Spider-Man is a Grade-A Bad-Ass, but all we're getting the last few years is him being a whinny ***** in HS. Not to mention most of the cool villains have been left out. Kraven, Mysterio, Hobgoblin, Chameleon, Carnage, Spider-Slayer, etc, etc. At least DaFoe & Molina gave us a good Osborn and a great Ock.

 

[Khev]

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He is the only reason I'll be watching this, TBH. I'm fed up with High Scool Spider-Man BS, and a HS Trilogy makes me wanna puke. Spider-Man is a Grade-A Bad-Ass, but all we're getting the last few years is him being a whinny ***** in HS. Not to mention most of the cool villains have been left out. Kraven, Mysterio, Hobgoblin, Chameleon, Carnage, Spider-Slayer, etc, etc. At least DaFoe & Molina gave us a good Osborn and a great Ock.

Agreed, though judging from the trailers Keaton looks like he'll be giving us a Vulture on the same level as Dafoe Goblin and Molina Doc Ock.

 

[ironwez20]

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He is the only reason I'll be watching this, TBH. I'm fed up with High Scool Spider-Man BS, and a HS Trilogy makes me wanna puke. Spider-Man is a Grade-A Bad-Ass, but all we're getting the last few years is him being a whinny ***** in HS. Not to mention most of the cool villains have been left out. Kraven, Mysterio, Hobgoblin, Chameleon, Carnage, Spider-Slayer, etc, etc. At least DaFoe & Molina gave us a good Osborn and a great Ock.

Also a good depiction of venom. I'm all for diverse characters but there is no pleasing the people who want "change" in this genre.

Example. Overwatch. The main character is a gay woman and the face of the game . People whined cause she was to pretty and pandered to cis men fantasies. What? So if they made her unattractive I'm guessing things would go smooth ? Hell no there would be a riot.

Look it's cool to have characters of different colors and things like that but don't change who they are. As for dr doom. Well I think they'd keep him white. Reed Richards however would be a different race.