Tom Hardy is Venom (2018)

[Snake Plissken]

Re: Venom Movie: Sony working on the Spin-Off

I first saw the Homecoming trailer over the weekend... yeah been there done that.

Now I'm sure Sony will take creative liberties with the design of Venom, and that's fine... but please for the love of God... make him a hulking monster with a big flailing tongue... it's utterly essential.

Not that stupid Xenomorph suit from SM3.

 

[Chakor]

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https://www.comicbookmovie.com/veno...r-sonys-own-marvel-cinematic-universe-a149950

Huh, I'm surprised. My hopes for this are raised a little higher knowing that it's supposed to be rated R, but... Sony still needs to get the right people in this, and they need to start filming and leaking production pics so that we're not left in the dark. Otherwise, this is still all talk and no action.

 

[Chakor]

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I'd rather see an R-Rated Carnage movie where he's treated like the Xeno in Alien. Kinda like the most recent run. That'd be nice.

To do the Carnage story right, they would need to get past a lot of other stuff first (I.E., the Venom movie if it actually gets released and doesn't fail). That said, I do like the sound of Carnage being treated like the original Xeno. The odds of it actually happening? Different story, LOL.

 

[ironwez20]

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Psh this movie will be like fant4stic. I have no faith in the fools who tried to run the franchise in the ground. This has no build up just trying to make a franchise with supporting characters.

Sony has lost there minds. I rather have build up for venom then for him to just show up.

 

[Victοr]

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To do the Carnage story right, they would need to get past a lot of other stuff first (I.E., the Venom movie if it actually gets released and doesn't fail). That said, I do like the sound of Carnage being treated like the original Xeno. The odds of it actually happening? Different story, LOL.

Yeah, I guess. If Venom is good, and if it happens it'll surely feature Carnage, or at least Cletus, you can do a spin-off. But from what I hear, they're gonna do "The Thing", but with Venom. Which is... eh. There's already a comic about that:

But considering the recent Carnage book was Carnage meets Alien meets The Thing meets Lovecraft, I'd love to see it happen.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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I'm gonna laugh hysterically if this ends up being better than Homecoming. Feige will pull out the two hairs he has left on his head.

 

[pturtle]

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I'm gonna laugh hysterically if this ends up being better than Homecoming. Feige will pull out the two hairs he has left on his head.

Depending on who directs this, I'd say there's a great chance this turns out better than Homecoming.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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Depending on who directs this, I'd say there's a great chance this turns out better than Homecoming.

I'm really starting to believe SONY regrets the deal they made with Marvel. They should have just gone forward with ASM3, hired new writers to deliver a quality script and made a good film that made people forget ASM2.

 

[pturtle]

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I'm really starting to believe SONY regrets the deal they made with Marvel. They should have just gone forward with ASM3, hired new writers to deliver a quality script and made a good film that made people forget ASM2.

So since their leasing out Spider-Man, does that mean they can't create another live action Spider-Man?

Because if they can, Sony would be geniuses if they let Marvel use Holland Spidey while making money on him, and utilizing another Peter Parker Spidey for their own movies. They'd make bank.

I personally don't think Spider-Man is needed for an R rated horror Venom flick, but it's hard to imagine a Black Cat movie without Spider-Man's involvement.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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So since their leasing out Spider-Man, does that mean they can't create another live action Spider-Man?

Because if they can, Sony would be geniuses if they let Marvel use Holland Spidey while making money on him, and utilizing another Peter Parker Spidey for their own movies. They'd make bank.

I personally don't think Spider-Man is needed for an R rated horror Venom flick, but it's hard to imagine a Black Cat movie without Spider-Man's involvement.

They're allowed to use their own. Its still their character.

And I agree, it'd be an epic middle finger to Marvel Studios if they cast a better, older Spider-Man for their films.

 

[YoNoSe]

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Aside from the questionable marketability of a non-Parker Spidey when Sony couldn't even get the ASM series together, I would be extremely surprised if Marvel/Disney didn't have their army of lawyers forbid creating a new, competitive Spiderman character while they're sharing the property.

I don't think you'll be seeing any Epic Middle Fingers towards their extremely beneficial partnership.

 

[ironwez20]

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I'm really starting to believe SONY regrets the deal they made with Marvel. They should have just gone forward with ASM3, hired new writers to deliver a quality script and made a good film that made people forget ASM2.

Here's the thing tho. The movie won't be good cause it's a cash grab like asm2 was. It was meant to build a universe instead of tell its story. Asm3 was going to lead to another big huge type movie in sinister six.

Yes the venom movie is already a giant middle finger to marvel . But in all honesty. I'd rather have mcu Parker then dub step electro and crack head goblin. O and don't forget Norman Osborn dying and Peter not giving a crap about uncle Ben and trying to go after his parents.

Yea Sony had some great ideas alright. Just like with this. No way in hell do I expect a good movie from the very man who made deadpool what he was in origins and the other man who made Spider-Man 3 the mess that it was.

I know the mcu killed your puppy in front of your very eyes but Spider-Man is in better shape at Disney than he is in the hands of those hacks who haven't made a great spidey movie since 2.

 

[ironwez20]

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They're allowed to use their own. Its still their character.

And I agree, it'd be an epic middle finger to Marvel Studios if they cast a better, older Spider-Man for their films.

If they could make there own Spider-Man films then they'd just make a new franchise. It doesn't make a lick of sense to create a deal only to make another Spider-Man universe.

 

[Khev]

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Yeah the whole point of the deal on Sony's side was to ride Marvel's coattails by making movies about the guy who appeared in Civil War.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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Here's the thing tho. The movie won't be good cause it's a cash grab like asm2 was.

Assumptions.

No way in hell do I expect a good movie from the very man who made deadpool what he was in origins and the other man who made Spider-Man 3 the mess that it was.

You don't even know who's directing this. All they need to do is give this to a David Robert Mitchell or an Adam Wingard or any other great genre director and it'll smoke every [safe family friendly kids table] movie the MCU ever put out.

At the MCU there is only one director - and he has no interest in anything bold or transcendent.

 

[Uncle Bingo]

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At the MCU there is only one director - and he has no interest in anything bold or transcendent.

 

[ironwez20]

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Assumptions.



You don't even know who's directing this. All they need to do is give this to a David Robert Mitchell or an Adam Wingard or any other great genre director and it'll smoke every [safe family friendly kids table] movie the MCU ever put out.

At the MCU there is only one director - and he has no interest in anything bold or transcendent.

Lol what makes you think they are gonna get any of those guys? The producers are the one running this **** show. The same people who did Spider-Man 3-asm2. You act like only Disney are the ones that screw up. Have you seen the great spidey 3 debacle. The same idiot that's behind this movie ruined that movie.

O btw it's not an assumption that asm2 was a cash grab. It was a world building movie trying to hype sinister six but failed hard. Notice all the plot points in the movie.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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Lol what makes you think they are gonna get any of those guys? The producers are the one running this **** show. The same people who did Spider-Man 3-asm2. You act like only Disney are the ones that screw up. Have you seen the great spidey 3 debacle. The same idiot that's behind this movie ruined that movie.

O btw it's not an assumption that asm2 was a cash grab. It was a world building movie trying to hype sinister six but failed hard. Notice all the plot points in the movie.

So according to you, producers are incapable of bouncing back from bad decisions?

Sure, Arad was behind ASM2 & SM3. But he was also behind SM2 & ASM1 which were great films.

Take Lauren Donner for instance who produced every X-Men movie (and show) to date. After the travesty that was Origins she enlisted Singer's help to soft reboot the franchise via First Class and called back Vaughn (who almost directed X3) to helm it.

Your hate boner for Arad is making you unreasonable. ASM2 was a bad movie, yes, but bad movies happen sometimes.

With the MCU its not a case of one bad movie here and there but rather a formula that's been prevalent for almost the entirety of the franchise. Where FOX and SONY have had bumps along the road, Marvel is for the most part safe and generic in its approach to CBMs with only a few exceptions that somehow got past Feige's bland grip.

 

[ironwez20]

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So according to you, producers are incapable of bouncing back from bad decisions?

Sure, Arad was behind ASM2 & SM3. But he was also behind SM2 & ASM1 which were great films.

Take Lauren Donner for instance who produced every X-Men movie (and show) to date. After the travesty that was Origins she enlisted Singer's help to soft reboot the franchise via First Class and called back Vaughn (who almost directed X3) to helm it.

Your hate boner for Arad is making you unreasonable. ASM2 was a bad movie, yes, but bad movies happen sometimes.

With the MCU its not a case of one bad movie here and there but rather a formula that's been prevalent for almost the entirety of the franchise. Where FOX and SONY have had bumps along the road, Marvel is for the most part safe and generic in its approach to CBMs with only a few exceptions that somehow got past Feige's bland grip.

O I have a hate boner? That's rich. And asm1-2 plus sm3 were bad movies under avi arad. Maybe your hug hatred blinds you to the fact that most studios don't give a **** bout the property they are in it just for a cash grab. There is no love being put into the story. Sony had more than a few bumps my friend, they screwed up and they kept making the same mistakes.

This movie is being made to capitalize on venom's success. Also buddy stop bringing the mcu into everything. I get it, you hate them, still doesn't justify Sony making crap movies and decisions. These people are the same people who greenlighted the emoji movie.
And arad was behind sm1 and 2 but raimi was in control, once arad starting calling the shots .... well yea.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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O I have a hate boner? That's rich.

You do. There's no other way to reconcile why you think a producer behind two great CBMs is incapable of making another great CBM.

And asm1-2 plus sm3 were bad movies under avi arad.

ASM1 was not a bad movie. Its a damn good movie.

Sony had more than a few bumps my friend, they screwed up and they kept making the same mistakes.

No, they had one bump (SM3) that forced them to reboot. Then they had another bump (ASM2) that scared them into the rights sharing deal with Marvel. If Arad and SONY had put out 4-5 consecutive bad movies then your hate boner would be warranted. They haven't so it isn't.

This movie is being made to capitalize on venom's success.

No ****. Why else would a studio finance a CBM? The motivation is always to capitalize on the character's iconography. The question is will they capitalize on it via something inspired or something lazy? Given that this will be an R-rated horror feature, things are already sounding pretty damn inspired.