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I think the CGI wasn't the issue, it was the way the face was animated...They did body motion capture but not face motion capture...which was dumb.
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I heard they DID do face capture, but then hand animated it....for some reason.
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Has anyone else gone to see the movie at the El Capitan in Hollywood to watch the laser light show?
Has to be the greatest movie going experience ive ever had. Such a spectacle. Sorry if its been posted before, but heres a video.
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Has to be the greatest movie going experience ive ever had. Such a spectacle. Sorry if its been posted before, but heres a video.
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That laser light show looks AWESOME.
I thought the CLU character was really well done. I thought it looked brilliant... it was just sometimes that the mouth didnt look *quite* right and it threw it off. But overall I thought it worked really really well.
Plus, I just loved the technological event of having an old Jeff Bridges acting against a young Jeff Bridges, both voiced by Jeff Bridges..... simply amazing. The fact that we CAN (even if not quite there just there) ....also shows how far we've come since the first film when you look at the computer work there. And I love that.
The thing with avatar is that they werent human, so there was nothing to throw us off... the eyes, nose, mouth... all (deliberately for this reason) different shapes and sizes, even colour from us... so we couldnt say "well that doesnt look real" because we've never lived with those forms to compare against. I'll agree the avatar CG work was probably better though.
They did motion capture his face though I saw footage somewhere of them doing it. Even if it wasnt quite perfect, or someone didnt like it.... i dont think realistically it could ever be called terrible.
I thought the CLU character was really well done. I thought it looked brilliant... it was just sometimes that the mouth didnt look *quite* right and it threw it off. But overall I thought it worked really really well.
Plus, I just loved the technological event of having an old Jeff Bridges acting against a young Jeff Bridges, both voiced by Jeff Bridges..... simply amazing. The fact that we CAN (even if not quite there just there) ....also shows how far we've come since the first film when you look at the computer work there. And I love that.
The thing with avatar is that they werent human, so there was nothing to throw us off... the eyes, nose, mouth... all (deliberately for this reason) different shapes and sizes, even colour from us... so we couldnt say "well that doesnt look real" because we've never lived with those forms to compare against. I'll agree the avatar CG work was probably better though.
They did motion capture his face though I saw footage somewhere of them doing it. Even if it wasnt quite perfect, or someone didnt like it.... i dont think realistically it could ever be called terrible.
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Was watching this yesterday and now it's blocked can you help me out?
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I thought it worked well, the character was cool enough to ignore the poor CGI.....but still.
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Gimme an example of a better human face. Its easier to make something that no one is used to seeing look real than to make something that everyone is used to seeing 1000 times a day for their entire lifetime.
"poor", "terrible". if you're a man from the future and you're basing this on the films you're used to seeing, well I understand, but if you're in the year 2011 like the rest of us, its pretty damn impressive. "terrible" is what I would call playstation and xbox games, now that TRON has set a new mark.
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There is no better example, because no one has done a good human face yet. Period. Clu looked like Beowulf. You can argue all you want, but I think he was very inhuman. His mouth didnt move right, his eyes were dead and lifeless, he had this plastic feeling the entire time. He didnt fit in with any of the characters.
The fact you call video games terrible CGI is pretty damn silly. Considering....ugh, it's NOT CGI?
The fact you call video games terrible CGI is pretty damn silly. Considering....ugh, it's NOT CGI?
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Well yes...
But, it's not CGI as in the CGI....we know....or something. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
But, it's not CGI as in the CGI....we know....or something. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
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Well yes...
But, it's not CGI as in the CGI....we know....or something. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
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i don't know what you mean.
computer generated imagery.
whether it was made for a video game, a movie theater, cable television. its all the same technology, just different media.
the measure of success should be based on how it compares to those that come before or contemporary.
Your eyes are your eyes, but I see light years difference between
edit. Now don't anybody get me wrong, I'm not saying by any means they reached the pinnacle here. Its not perfect. Its just not "terrible" or "poor" IMO. Also, go back and find the original trailer for TR2N at Comic con. Not the one they showed last year, the one from 2 years ago and see how far they improved it even from that.
I look forward to seeing it pushed even farther. Hopefully Tron 3 can do it for Bruce Boxleitner's likeness.
computer generated imagery.
whether it was made for a video game, a movie theater, cable television. its all the same technology, just different media.
the measure of success should be based on how it compares to those that come before or contemporary.
Your eyes are your eyes, but I see light years difference between
edit. Now don't anybody get me wrong, I'm not saying by any means they reached the pinnacle here. Its not perfect. Its just not "terrible" or "poor" IMO. Also, go back and find the original trailer for TR2N at Comic con. Not the one they showed last year, the one from 2 years ago and see how far they improved it even from that.
I look forward to seeing it pushed even farther. Hopefully Tron 3 can do it for Bruce Boxleitner's likeness.
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sparkstron73
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I saw the tr2n comic con way back when it first showed up and yes things have improved but it was just too jarring for me.
Even the part where young jeff bridges was talking to younger sam was creepy and fake looking.
Avatar did a better job for sure, whether it was because the cgi scenes where totally cgi and not a mix of real and cgi or just they did a better job on the whole and got it right.
I love tron and am not slating it for the sake of being negative I'm just upset that they seemed to have so long to do a good job and rushed it, it seems to meet deadlines or it was a case of too many cooks.
I don't know why lisberger was not directing and only a consultant, maybe disney had, had enough of his vision for the sequel and where more concerned about money.
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Even the part where young jeff bridges was talking to younger sam was creepy and fake looking.
Avatar did a better job for sure, whether it was because the cgi scenes where totally cgi and not a mix of real and cgi or just they did a better job on the whole and got it right.
I love tron and am not slating it for the sake of being negative I'm just upset that they seemed to have so long to do a good job and rushed it, it seems to meet deadlines or it was a case of too many cooks.
I don't know why lisberger was not directing and only a consultant, maybe disney had, had enough of his vision for the sequel and where more concerned about money.
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Lisberger makes a cameo as a bartender @ the End of Line club...
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Beowulf looks more real in that still...but his eyes are dead and lifeless.
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He does. You can see pores, and crap. Clu looks all soft.
Both look inhuman regardless.
Both look inhuman regardless.
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Ew...make his weirdness stop.
Curious Case of Benjamin Button--they did a perfect job there, and even without a face that was of an actual person (they used Brad Pitt's face as a base and then artists made it look like he was old)
They did a perfect job there, and won an academy award for it--although the company that did it is going out of business
