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I've had time to digest the ending and have read alot of reviews and interviews with the director and creator. I loved the ending. I went in to the finale thinking we were going to get all the answers. The minute it ended, I realized that was not the case and that the whole show was about the journey that Marty and Cohle were on from 1995 on. Both characters were equally damaged and changed by the events. Both now have to cope with their changed lives. For Rust, that means exploring the fact that there might be a higher power out there, or at least an order to things. Marty saw his family together in the hospital and broke down after realizing that was as good as it was gonna get for him. This case, and his decisions, had cost him what he loved the most.

Sure, the show could have shown the downfall of the whole cult and whatnot and made sure everything was wrapped up in a bow for them, but then this show would be just like every other cop drama out there. I liked how they "got their guy" and the whole aspect of they did what they could. The "light is winning." Good is coming back.

All the theories thrown around the internet could be "plausible" for the most part. The cult was damaged, but will continue until others continue Marty and Rusts work.

A true masterpiece of a show IMO and I really hope the bluray comes with commentary. I really want to hear the reasoning and meanings behind certain locations, clues, etc.

Sorry for the rambling, its hard trying to put all my emotions and thoughts down at once. I'm sure I will have more as time goes on.
 
Still kinda bummed it's over. I hadn't even heard the 8th episode was the last till the day before, so it kinda shocked me.

Anyone else think the cult of the Yellow King will be one of the things that connects the seasons of this show?
 
For Rust, that means exploring the fact that there might be a higher power out there, or at least an order to things. Marty saw his family together in the hospital and broke down after realizing that was as good as it was gonna get for him. This case, and his decisions, had cost him what he loved the most.

As an agnostic, verging closer to atheism, I wasn't sure how to feel about that turn for the character. Mind you, considering the character is written as getting visions, I'm surprised he was also written as a sceptic/seeming atheist in the first place.
 
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I don't think Rust believes he saw Heaven or now believes in God. I think people seemed to misinterpret what he's saying at the end. I just think the experience gave him the realization that, ironically, not everything in life is death and pain and darkness. That in catching Errol, in stopping this one small bit of evil, he may have been redeemed in his mind, for the death of his daughter. He doesn't say he sees God or heavenly gates, just that he felt his daughter's love, and his father's too. He felt connected to the people he loved in his life. He came to realization that love and light are as real as death and darkness. This seems to be what the entire series was about, not cults and backwoods killers. That's how I took it anyway.
 
I don't think Rust believes he saw Heaven or now believes in God. I think people seemed to misinterpret what he's saying at the end. I just think the experience gave him the realization that, ironically, not everything in life is death and pain and darkness. That in catching Errol, in stopping this one small bit of evil, he may have been redeemed in his mind, for the death of his daughter. He doesn't say he sees God or heavenly gates, just that he felt his daughter's love, and his father's too. He felt connected to the people he loved in his life. He came to realization that love and light are as real as death and darkness. This seems to be what the entire series was about, not cults and backwoods killers. That's how I took it anyway.

Agreed. That's why I called his near death experience, a revelation. not in the religious, god and heaven sense, but in a humanist, spiritual sense that states, yes the universe can be out to kill you, yet it is the ties, both physical and metaphysical, to those we love that will carry you through. Ultimately, the series was about a paradigm shift in Cohle's way of thinking which was what the fruit of his journey gives him. Such a beautiful, moving ending and a fitting continuation of the McConaissance. "The light is winning" indeed.
 
Loved the 1st season. The ending felt rushed and was anticlimactic but I say that about the endings of most things I watch...lol
 
Love these minimalist posters...
I picked-up the last two in your post, along with the 2012 versions of Rust and Cohle, for my wife's upcoming birthday (thanks again, averagejo, for posting those, initially). Kind of a big gamble, but hoping she likes them!
 
Just watched all 8 ep in the last two days...riveting stuff. I love the length...short and sweet. The fact that S2 should be completely unrelated to S1 with a brand new star studded cast has me even more excited for it.
 
I don't think Rust believes he saw Heaven or now believes in God. I think people seemed to misinterpret what he's saying at the end. I just think the experience gave him the realization that, ironically, not everything in life is death and pain and darkness. That in catching Errol, in stopping this one small bit of evil, he may have been redeemed in his mind, for the death of his daughter. He doesn't say he sees God or heavenly gates, just that he felt his daughter's love, and his father's too. He felt connected to the people he loved in his life. He came to realization that love and light are as real as death and darkness. This seems to be what the entire series was about, not cults and backwoods killers. That's how I took it anyway.

Agreed. That's why I called his near death experience, a revelation. not in the religious, god and heaven sense, but in a humanist, spiritual sense that states, yes the universe can be out to kill you, yet it is the ties, both physical and metaphysical, to those we love that will carry you through. Ultimately, the series was about a paradigm shift in Cohle's way of thinking which was what the fruit of his journey gives him. Such a beautiful, moving ending and a fitting continuation of the McConaissance. "The light is winning" indeed.


Great points. I guess I didn't mean to say he suddenly believed in god, just that there was something else out there, not just all the evil that he saw around him. Great great posts!!!
 
I saw it as Rust having what was in every way a religious awakening but one that was instead rewritten for him as an "emotional" experiance. I also thought it was more of a an "It's chinatown" ending than outright happy. Theres still dozens of dead girls who may never get justice and a corrupt system protecting the abuse but at least our heros lived. It was by no means bad, especially in the scope of harsh judgement leveled on any finales but it was a bit rushed and didn't quite live up to it's full potential based on what we'd seen in terms of writing in previous episodes.
 
Thanks man. I didn't really mean to direct it right at you (rambler), I've heard lots of people talking about this since the finale. There seems to be a section of people that sort of eye-rolled and felt disappointed, thinking that after everything, Rust comes out finding God. I feel this misses the point entirely, and they didn't really listen to what he actually said. Rust didn't suddenly find Jesus lol, he just let the tiniest bit of light into his dark worldview. He gained hope.
 
Ah so others had the same reaction I did. I'd have to re-analyse what he said I guess, I mean some of it I couldn't even make out.
 
I came in around 7. Tried to read in here waiting for 8, but decided I didn't want to mess with outside input.

I take it that speculation didn't get far.
 
I came in around 7. Tried to read in here waiting for 8, but decided I didn't want to mess with outside input.

I take it that speculation didn't get far.

It got pretty wild, there was all kinds of speculation, a lot of people were disappointed because the finale didn't have a mindbending ending that revealed more about the cult and who the Yellow King is.
 
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