Deckard
Super Freak
If I'm not mistaken the director said his final cut for the finale was like 90+ mins. He also mentioned alot of it would be on the DVDs but he wasn't happy it wouldn't be put in it's proper editing context.
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Invictus Sol
No Life in the Void
Cheers, Ski!
That really sucks. Surprised they wouldn't go through the trouble to edit it correctly given the show's impact. I bet eventually it gets done so that everyone has to buy a second set...
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batfan08
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I'm dying to watch this show. I don't have cable/satellite, so, I can't see it on HBO or HBO GO, nor is it available, legitimately, through venues such as iTunes, nor do I have a computer, so that limits it even further.
Invictus Sol
No Life in the Void
Damn! That is unfortunate, batfan. Not that it's a slam dunk or anything, but from your posts, I would think you'd really enjoy this show.
Mister Ski
Super Freak
Cheers, Ski!
That really sucks. Surprised they wouldn't go through the trouble to edit it correctly given the show's impact. I bet eventually it gets done so that everyone has to buy a second set...
Yeah I would really love to see the director's cut of this series. Already got the blu ray in my PO cart on Amazon.
Among deleted scenes and what not, I really want this to have commentary by Pizzolatto. That would be great.
devilof76
Super Freak
It definitely didn't go down the way I thought it might, but I liked where he took it. If this isn't his vision of the finale, I'd love to see what he had in mind (even a rough version).
LoveMinusZero
Super Freak
It is his vision, he says in an interview this is exactly how he wanted it to end, and he actually had Cohle's speech at the end very much in mind for the finale. I think the 90min version would just be extra and extended scenes that got the axe for time. It will still be crazy interesting to see though.
devilof76
Super Freak
Then I'm satisfied. The way it went down made the story about the detectives, and not the killers. Awesome.
Deckard
Super Freak
Let's not dismiss the case either. It was incredibly creepy and added to some of the most intense moments. It's also a just as huge a part of Rust and Marty's fictional lives(and outlooks) and how they play out so it's not really any crazier than wanting resolution to Rust and Marty which we got. I mean Rust even pretty much alludes to only not having had killed himself because of the investigation(prior to his awakening).
LoveMinusZero
Super Freak
Yeah for sure, I wouldn't dismiss the case at all, you can't really separate them, but it is secondary compared to arc the two men go through. I would love to know more about the case and the cult, but I get that it wasn't really about that, as fascinating as it was.
Does anyone think the Yellow King will pop up at all in the next season?
Does anyone think the Yellow King will pop up at all in the next season?
Deckard
Super Freak
That depends what you believe the King is. Edwin Tuttle? The Sun? An interdimensional god-like being who controls a swirling portal to another universe?
LoveMinusZero
Super Freak
The Yellow King in the sense of some central aspect to a Yellow King cult. I'm sure they'll reference it, at least. We did see Errol's version of the Yellow King in the tunnels.
Deckard
Super Freak
Popular theory atm is that Season 2 is going to deal with the idea that the Free Masons built and designed highways(the shapes they make etc) and train systems in a way that controls and funnels psychic energy into cities. Basically it's one of the few cult type theories that revolve around the U.S. transportation system. There's some interesting material on the subject online as well as some shots that fans are pointing out in season 1 that show the designs of the roadways(like even in opening credits in Marty's face) and often times put trains in the background shots.
Deckard
Super Freak
Just a quick example, there is tons of this, other people are posting how almost every church or death they investigated was near train tracks or had trains passing by in the background. definitely interesting when combined with what Pizzolatto is hinting.
Deckard
Super Freak
check this out
LoveMinusZero
Super Freak
Wow, that's crazy. There's so much going on in this show.
Mister Ski
Super Freak
I don't even know who half those people are.
I am assuming it is accurate?
I am assuming it is accurate?
Deckard
Super Freak
I don't even know who half those people are.
I am assuming it is accurate?
Yes they are all real characters from the show and the branches that would be needed to lead to them. The ones in green are definately related, the speculation is just how exactly.
I loved the finale personally. I found a lot of people online were upset only becuse their crazy theories didn't turn out to be anything more than in their own head (Mart's daughter,Grandpa) for reading too much into EVERYTHING. Both of those developments are far too cliche. Even people wanting to know every aspect of the cult, it wouldve been just us viewers hearing characters names we would never see,who's involved. Theygaveenough to piece the cult story together ourselves, or at least the broad strokes of it. a cheesy twist. Or for the show to wrap everything up so they don't have to think about anything (BrBa finale)
I love the quotes from Nic Pizzolatto regarding the final scene:
"To retreat to the supernatural, or to take the easy dramatic route of killing a character in order to achieve an emotional response from the audience, I thought would have been a disservice to the story. What was more interesting to me is that both these men are left in a place of deliverance, a place where even Cohle might be able to acknowledge the possibility of grace in the world. Because one way both men were alike in their failures was that neither man could admit the possibility of grace. I don't mean that in a religious sense. Where we leave Cohle, this man hasn't made a 180 change or anything like that. He's moved maybe 5 degrees on the meter, but the optimistic metaphor he makes at the end, it's not sentimental; it's purely based on physics"
And this one refgarding the experience Rust recounts to Marty:
"It’s not a belief – he’s talking about an experience. And he’s not talking about a reconciliation with loved ones after death: If you listen to what he says, he says, ‘I was gone. There was no me. Just love… and then I woke up.’ That line is significant to the whole series: “And then I woke up.” The only thing like a conversion that he has is when he says, “You’re looking at it wrong. To me, the light is winning.” And that doesn’t describe a conversion to me as much as it describes a broadening of perspective. The man who once said there is no light at the end of the tunnel is now saying there might be order to this. I don’t think it says anything more than: Pick your stories carefully.
Rust's end for me regarding his near death experience was actually quite sad as he tells Marty "He's not supposed to be there" After going through his experience he wanted to join the darkness. He wanted to die,but he woke up in the hospital. After that NDE he is finally able to feel for the first time in 20 years. The fact thaat he feels something is what brings about the slight change in Rust at the end.
I love the quotes from Nic Pizzolatto regarding the final scene:
"To retreat to the supernatural, or to take the easy dramatic route of killing a character in order to achieve an emotional response from the audience, I thought would have been a disservice to the story. What was more interesting to me is that both these men are left in a place of deliverance, a place where even Cohle might be able to acknowledge the possibility of grace in the world. Because one way both men were alike in their failures was that neither man could admit the possibility of grace. I don't mean that in a religious sense. Where we leave Cohle, this man hasn't made a 180 change or anything like that. He's moved maybe 5 degrees on the meter, but the optimistic metaphor he makes at the end, it's not sentimental; it's purely based on physics"
And this one refgarding the experience Rust recounts to Marty:
"It’s not a belief – he’s talking about an experience. And he’s not talking about a reconciliation with loved ones after death: If you listen to what he says, he says, ‘I was gone. There was no me. Just love… and then I woke up.’ That line is significant to the whole series: “And then I woke up.” The only thing like a conversion that he has is when he says, “You’re looking at it wrong. To me, the light is winning.” And that doesn’t describe a conversion to me as much as it describes a broadening of perspective. The man who once said there is no light at the end of the tunnel is now saying there might be order to this. I don’t think it says anything more than: Pick your stories carefully.
Rust's end for me regarding his near death experience was actually quite sad as he tells Marty "He's not supposed to be there" After going through his experience he wanted to join the darkness. He wanted to die,but he woke up in the hospital. After that NDE he is finally able to feel for the first time in 20 years. The fact thaat he feels something is what brings about the slight change in Rust at the end.
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