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[azurepred]

Coleman vs Tito would be nice for ____s and giggles, I suppose. Plus if Chuck beats Tito again, they will need someone to get Tito a W down the road.

i bet Tito will end up in strikeforce or some ____. Nobody cares about him anymore, its not like he bring in ratings. If he loses a couple more fights, i think he will get the boot, especially since dana doesnt like him anyways.

as far as Couture, maybe put Bader against him next, Bader is a very good, tough, underrated oppenent. If he beats him, then maybe Thiago silva, if he beats him, give Randy a guy in the top 5 of that division, if he beats that guy, then i could see him deserving another title shot. I dont think we will ever see Randy get anywhere near the top of this division though.

 

[Skiman]

I thought Bader and Randy are friends and train together

 

[kobayashi93]

i bet Tito will end up in strikeforce or some ____. Nobody cares about him anymore, its not like he bring in ratings. If he loses a couple more fights, i think he will get the boot, especially since dana doesnt like him anyways.

I guess you didn't see when they kissed and made up. Tito brings in a lot more than you would think. He's a coach on the new TUF, they don't put fighters nobody cares about in that position.

 

[occulum]

I dont think its skill and talent behind Tito's return. its drama and ratings that fuel that relationship.
Dana and Tito are both using each other and each of them knows it Im sure....

 

[kobayashi93]

^Exactly. No one thinks Tito is going to be champ, or even beat a big contender. He plays a great bad guy role, and still maintains a good amount of fans because of it. The UFC will always need a couple of guys like that around.

 

[occulum]

I agree.
I didnt like Tito initially. Then after his TUF coaching stint I started kind of liking him. mainly cause Shamrock was such a ****** he made Tito look good. Then as time went on and I saw how bad of a drama queen he is and I havent like him ever since.
All that said ... I look forward to seeing him back and what comes from it....

 

[915stag51]

Tito ain't shizit!!!!!

 

[ArmoredFoe]

Titos a great coach and well...thats about it. His time is over as well, for him to talk trash to Mark was totally uncalled for. While yeah the UFC needs its "bad guys" Tito to busy running his mouth instead of fighting. I mean if his performance against Griffin is any indication of what hes bringing he doesnt have a chance...he doesnt really stand a chance regardless as noted it is just ratings.

 

[Deeznutz6]

I agree.
I didnt like Tito initially. Then after his TUF coaching stint I started kind of liking him. mainly cause Shamrock was such a ****** he made Tito look good. Then as time went on and I saw how bad of a drama queen he is and I havent like him ever since.
All that said ... I look forward to seeing him back and what comes from it....

Exactly, both mega douches but Shamrock is worse..

Pretty unimpressive PPV, aside from the Marqurdt/Sonnen fight, best part was Coleman telling Tito to ____ off

 

[bumblebee]

.... didnt he just fight Lesner not too long ago?

Yep and he got crushed. Since then he's been spoon feed bottom fighters.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Yep and he got crushed. Since then he's been spoon feed bottom fighters.

do you consider Vera a bottom fighter? And that fight was boring as hell.

 

[ArmoredFoe]

I wouldnt say Randy got crushed, I thought he was holding his own fine. Again your talking about Brock having a major weight advantage on top of that anyone getting hit by his canned hams for fists is going to drop. Its just unfortunate that when it comes to Brock, size and stength plays a major factor. He won fair and square, but if Randy were built and weight the same as Brock the outcome would have been much different or at least lasted longer than it did.

 

[Devil_666]

if Randy were built and weight the same as Brock the outcome would have been much different or at least lasted longer than it did.

But that's like saying "IF Trevor Berbick were as fast and hit as hard as Mike Tyson the outcome of their fight would have been much different or at least lasted longer than it did". It's irrelevant and pointless. IF Randy Couture were built and weighed the same as Brock Lesnar the entire history of MMA would be different.

 

[bumblebee]

do you consider Vera a bottom fighter? And that fight was boring as hell.

Not exactly a bottom fighter but a guy how is a "what could have been". Very talented but outside of the Mir win he hasnt been that good.

 

[ArmoredFoe]

But that's like saying "IF Trevor Berbick were as fast and hit as hard as Mike Tyson the outcome of their fight would have been much different or at least lasted longer than it did". It's irrelevant and pointless. IF Randy Couture were built and weighed the same as Brock Lesnar the entire history of MMA would be different.

My point being that Brock is champion that has a lot to learn, his skill set doesnt even come close to Randys. Why do you think I said Im not taking the win away, he won fair and square, but again his skill set doesnt come close to half of the guys hes fought (excluding heath herring).
Plus with boxing you cant really compare because they have alot more weight classes...you wouldnt see a fighter such as Randy fighting someone like Brock if this was boxing. Why do you think all these fighters are jumping weight classes, and Randy said it himself, hes to small to be fighting guys that big/heavy. I mean another example look a Mir, hes trying to pack as much bulk on as he can because hes so set on fighting Brock again and he also made the comment of guys are getting bigger and stronger. So you cant ignore the fact that weather you think Brock is amazing or sucks, hes got size and strenght advantage right from the start - with that Im not faulting him, he shouldnt be penalized or anything dudes a beast, but again what Im saying is size and strenght does play a major factor in this.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Not exactly a bottom fighter but a guy how is a "what could have been". Very talented but outside of the Mir win he hasnt been that good.

Agreed. I was hoping for him to beat Randy but that didnt happen.

 

[bumblebee]

Agreed. I was hoping for him to beat Randy but that didnt happen.

Oh he beat Randy....the judges just blew it as usual. JMO

 

[bumblebee]

My point being that Brock is champion that has a lot to learn, his skill set doesnt even come close to Randys. Why do you think I said Im not taking the win away, he won fair and square, but again his skill set doesnt come close to half of the guys hes fought (excluding heath herring).
Plus with boxing you cant really compare because they have alot more weight classes...you wouldnt see a fighter such as Randy fighting someone like Brock if this was boxing. Why do you think all these fighters are jumping weight classes, and Randy said it himself, hes to small to be fighting guys that big/heavy. I mean another example look a Mir, hes trying to pack as much bulk on as he can because hes so set on fighting Brock again and he also made the comment of guys are getting bigger and stronger. So you cant ignore the fact that weather you think Brock is amazing or sucks, hes got size and strenght advantage right from the start - with that Im not faulting him, he shouldnt be penalized or anything dudes a beast, but again what Im saying is size and strenght does play a major factor in this.

God i'm gonna hate myself for this but have you seen some of the dudes Fedor has fought(often bigger and stronger). Size and strength didnt work out for them.

 

[ArmoredFoe]

God i'm gonna hate myself for this but have you seen some of the dudes Fedor has fought(often bigger and stronger). Size and strength didnt work out for them.

ha ha ha nah man, Im not here to trash talk people this is all in good fun my friend. So if I sound like an a-hole I appolgize now, even to Devil-666. Were all MMA fans, Im not here to bash my fellow forum members.

As for people Fedor has fought, Ive seen all of Fedors fights and can only think of a few people who were actually bigger and stronger than him and even on that note its the opposite of Randy. Randy is an american wrestler with decent striking, going up against a much bigger american wrestler with mediocre striking at best. Fedor is coming from a much different skill set in the sense of he comes from Combat Sambo and his striking is pretty good as well even though alot of times he looks like an arm puncher, but again he puts his hips into it. So again to compare him is different as well. Which as argued a billion times in the MMA forums would be to test Fedor and put him against Brock...which is only a dream until M1 and UFC can play together.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Oh he beat Randy....the judges just blew it as usual. JMO

Yeah but he shouldnt have let Randy pin him to the ring like that for so damn long. Ring control my ass Randy.