UFC, etc.

[wHySoSeRiOuS203]

So Rampage wins a round based on "pressing forward n aggression"?, When Machida did more damage from countering?

NO

how is that? Machida landed maybe 6 leg kicks in the 2 rds combined and thats completely all he did in the first two. Rampage dominated the clinch game, had cage control, landed a fair amount of body shots and foot stomps in the clinch,threw more punches when they were in the center, and got a takedown. Machida didnt do anything in either of the first two rounds that showed he deserved to win either round. Theres no controversy here, and no rematch to be made. Machida was just scared of getting KO'd in the beginning rounds.

yes

Machida landed a couple leg kicks and did zero trying to counter. Yeah, Rampage pressed the pace of those two rounds and was more aggressive (going after him, clinching, doing damage in the clinch), while Machida damn near ran backwards and did next to nothing. Rampage was the clear winner of those two rounds. If you don't like the outcome of the fights then become a middle-aged, over-weight female and maybe you can be one of the ringside judges.

and yes

 

[NASEDO]

Machida landed a couple leg kicks and did zero trying to counter. Yeah, Rampage pressed the pace of those two rounds and was more aggressive (going after him, clinching, doing damage in the clinch), while Machida damn near ran backwards and did next to nothing. Rampage was the clear winner of those two rounds. If you don't like the outcome of the fights then become a middle-aged, over-weight female and maybe you can be one of the ringside judges.

Machida wasn't scared, thats how he fights. Counter fighter. I was interested to see what Rampages game plan was. I thought he should sit back, let Machida press, shorten the distance and commit. But I think Rampage wanted to break that boring style like Shogun did, and KO him. It didn't work, thats why I think Rampage thought he lost.

I dont mind Machida's boring style but I wonder if he loses again if he'll get cut. The UFC wants action or your gone. Machida will have to change his style to stay in the UFC, I will not be surprised if he gets cut after another loss. And think this loss is going to play alot of head games for him. Will see.

 

[Devil_666]

ALL MMA orgs can have 5 round non-title fights (main event/co-main events). The NSAC approved it already.

Yet no MMA org has bothered to implement that. I think Dana White even said he'll never put on a 5 round non-title fight. Seems stupid because certain fights NEED the extra rounds (Machida vs. Rampage is a good/recent example IMO).

 

[azurepred]

im all for 5rd non title fights, but i guess thats why they call them championship rounds. I dont think its something i would like to see a lot of, maybe in #1 contender type fights. We can say now, after the fight, that the fight would have benefited if it were 5 rounds, but its not something they can just put in mid way through a fight and i wouldnt even say that before the fight, that its a fight i would like to see 5 rounds of.

 

[Devil_666]

Personally I think ALL non-title main events/co-main events should be 5 rounds. That's just me.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Personally I think ALL non-title main events/co-main events should be 5 rounds. That's just me.

That would be cool with me, but I don't think the argument that other are posting about Machida would've won if he had 5 rounds is valid. He knew beforehand how many rounds the fight was, and that's how many he trained for. He should've worked those 3 rounds instead of leaving it to the decision. Same applies to 5 rounds...train for five and fight for five. Never aim for the judge's decision. If that's all you're fighting for, you've already lost.

 

[wHySoSeRiOuS203]

That would be cool with me, but I don't think the argument that other are posting about Machida would've won if he had 5 rounds is valid. He knew beforehand how many rounds the fight was, and that's how many he trained for. He should've worked those 3 rounds instead of leaving it to the decision. Same applies to 5 rounds...train for five and fight for five. Never aim for the judge's decision. If that's all you're fighting for, you've already lost.

 

[ArmoredFoe]

It comes down to basic time restraints...think about how many fighters go to decision in 3 rounds and if you had 5 rounds you'd have a bunch of guys gassing in round 4 and rnd 5 would pretty much be guys just flailing aimlessly or laying on each other and back to the time restraints...there PPV slot would have to be longer and there not going to do that because that would make your $45 UFC $55 or $60 and now that that they absorbed all the WEC pretty much there already going to have issues of what to do with all these fighters. I just dont see non-title fights ever going 5 rnds.

 

[Devil_666]

Actually the time frame would be exactly the same as a normal PPV with 2 title fights. The NSAC only approved main event/co-main event non-title 5 round fights. So any non-title fight not in those spots would not even have the option.

So for PPV's without any title fights, 2 fights (main event/co-main event) would be 5 rounders and you'd still get the same amount of fights and the same time frame.

 

[azurepred]

It comes down to basic time restraints...think about how many fighters go to decision in 3 rounds and if you had 5 rounds you'd have a bunch of guys gassing in round 4 and rnd 5 would pretty much be guys just flailing aimlessly or laying on each other and back to the time restraints...there PPV slot would have to be longer and there not going to do that because that would make your $45 UFC $55 or $60 and now that that they absorbed all the WEC pretty much there already going to have issues of what to do with all these fighters. I just dont see non-title fights ever going 5 rnds.

thats gonna equate into a crap load more of events each year

 

[Devil_666]

thats gonna equate into a crap load more of events each year

FREE events. The UFC plans on putting more fights on VS and they're working on a new TV deal besides Spike/VS to air fights.

 

[ArmoredFoe]

yeah i sure hope they plan on doing more free events.

 

[Devil_666]

I don't think they have much choice now. No one is gonna spend over $100 a month on 2 UFC PPV's every single month, year after year. So they're gonna have to put more free events on SpikeTV, VS and whatever new station(s) they're trying to make a deal with. The rumor is NBC (which Comcast controlls with a 51% stake in NBC Universal) since the UFC's relationship with VS (which Comcast also owns) has been so good.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I don't think they have much choice now. No one is gonna spend over $100 a month on 2 UFC PPV's every single month, year after year

Yeah I wouldn't be able to watch every event if this becomes the case. One a month is barely worth it IMO. I hate when I have to sit through a bunch of crap fights just to watch one main event fight that is MAYBE worth staying for.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Does the UFC offer a PPV package? I know it would change depending on your provider.

 

[daikkenaurora]

UFC 124... Saturday ... Koscheck Knocked Out .... fingers crossed.

 

[Devil_666]

It's next Saturday. This Saturday is the finale for TUF 12 and Strikeforce: Hendo vs. Babalu.

 

[KBA]

I'm picking Kos by submission! Still have the feeling of a big upset happening in this one. And this coming from a Canadian

 

[daikkenaurora]

It's next Saturday. This Saturday is the finale for TUF 12 and Strikeforce: Hendo vs. Babalu.

My Bad. I looked on the UFC site and saw saturday event and didnt realize it was for the TUF 12 finale.

What the hell is Strikeforce? lol

I'm picking Kos by submission! Still have the feeling of a big upset happening in this one. And this coming from a Canadian

I hate you.

 

[Devil_666]

What the hell is Strikeforce?

It's a joke like Fedor.