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Put me the the group disapointed that Rorschach died. I think letting him live wouldn't have mattered. Who would have believed him anyway? Everyone felt he was crazy to begin with.


Even though Rorschach died, his journal remained, which made for a great ending.

It leaves you with a really open ended finish, I thinks its cool to think of the shock waves that Rorschach's published journal may or may not have caused.

Rorschach dying for his unbreakable beliefs was great I thought.
 
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Just How Dark Will 'Watchmen' Be?
BY: BRAD BREVET | FRIDAY, AUGUST 1, 2008

Let me lead off by telling you this article does have a story spoiler in it if you have never read the Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons graphic novel "Watchmen". However, if you have already read the novel this article is going to be quite informative as I just couldn't handle not asking Jeffrey Dean Morgan about a specific scene from the novel that I felt had to be in the movie and could not be changed in any way. The scene I refer to is pictured above and takes place at the end of the Vietnam War in which both The Comedian (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) and Dr. Manhattan (Billy Crudup) play a large role in.
The scene is a defining scene but it is extremely graphic and will certainly raise some eyebrows at the MPAA if not at Warner Bros. as well. Throughout the interview Morgan had consistently referred to how tough shooting some of his scenes had been.

"Getting into the heads of these characters was kind of an ordeal. The actions of The Comedian are brutal sometimes." He continued, "This is stuff that's a little different than anything I have ever done, and it was stuff that I had a hard time with. There are a couple of things The Comedian does, and I never ever in a million years thought there was something I would have to think twice about, as an actor, but I could make no excuses for it. There were a couple of rough days of filming where I was just like, 'This is tough.'"

I am only going to discuss one scene, but I am sure "Watchmen" fanatics will easily be able to figure out what the second scene Morgan is referring to. However, my main concern was making sure the Vietnam scene was still 100% intact and Morgan was quick to reply, "Yeah, yeah. It's there. It's tough, that's a tough thing. I think that scene and the [other scene] were two things that I'll forever remember as an actor."

In the scene The Comedian, a.k.a. Edward Blake, is approached by a pregnant Vietnamese woman. She enters the bar and says, "Now war is over, Mr. Eddie. Now I must talk with you." Blake is far from interested in dealing with a pregnancy as this woman was obviously just a late night distraction he never expected to deal with again.

He dismisses her saying, "We got nothin' to talk about. I'm leavin'!" The woman tells him how she cannot walk away from the pregnancy, she can't forget it to which Blake says, "Well that's unfortunate because that's just what I'm gonna do..."
The woman becomes irate, smashes a bottle and slashes at Blake's face cutting a deep gash (pictured above to the right), scarring him for the rest of his life. Standing to the side is Dr. Manhattan, observing the situation as he has become accustomed to doing when it comes to any form of human behavior. Severely bleeding Blake grabs his gun and points it at the pregnant woman as tears stream down her face.

"Blake don't..." is all Manhattan can get out before the gun goes off, "...do it," he finishes his thought as she lay dead on the floor bleeding from a gunshot wound to the chest.Graphic, I know, but imperative to the story. Dr. Manhattan says to Blake, "Blake, she was pregnant. You gunned her down." This is something you don't expect from Manhattan as he has grown to think little of humans, as they have become more of a distraction to him as a result of his massive intellect. His concern is actually more unexpected than The Comedian shooting the woman.

Blake tends his wounds and acknowledges killing the woman but lets Manhattan know he could have very easily stopped him. Manhattan is virtually the only real superhero in the story with actual superpowers. He can transport people and change the molecules of any physical object. "You coulda changed the gun into steam," says Blake. It's a defining moment for both characters and vital it occurs just the same way. The graphic nature of the scene is what makes it so powerful and Morgan does not deny its importance.

"Yeah, yeah, we're staying very true to this whole thing and yeah, that's there," he said. "It had to be. It's a big time defining moment for my character. It had to be there. It's the history of the scar, the whole deal. You can't take that away man."

Sure, it may be easy to talk about now that it is over, but when I asked him how he prepared for such a scene his words alone tell you it wasn't easy. "I don't know how I prepared for that. I wasn't prepared for it. As much homework as I had done and as many times as I read this book, I don't think I was prepared to put a gun to a pregnant woman's head and blow her head off."

Anyone concerned any one of the actors playing the lead roles in this film didn't do their homework can forget about that worry. Morgan isn't the only one that dug deep to find meaning for their character as I will tell you more about next week, but let Morgan tell you a little more about his approach to The Comedian and what made the character so fascinating for him.

"The arcs The Comedian goes through are substantial to where his very being is questioned and he questions himself," he said. "At first glance you think you are playing this bastard, just a mean son-of-a-^^^^^ but the more I looked at the layers to this guy… How do you read a book about a guy that does the things he does and yet you sympathize with him? How the hell does that happen? I found that fascinating."
 
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Sounds like they are making it even more graphic than originally written, as
in the book he doesn't "put a gun to her head" and "blow her head off" but rather shoots her in the chest.
 
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Buttmunch - "Oh, I also felt bad when the mutant Lynx died I've got a soft spot for animals."

Me too, BM - it doesn't seem to matter what genre the movie is, the animal that the audience gets attached to always gets knocked off to get a reaction. I think the only animal I can think of which didn't was the cat in Alien - because the audience expected it to get offed.

The death of the butterflies and hummingbirds also made me sad.
 
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This is a spoilers thread, right? Does that mean we can discuss the spoilers of the graphic novel as well?



...because my favorite part was when we find out at the end it was the Comedian who masterminded the whole evil plot.




j/k :monkey3
 
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:mwaha

It just sucks that I had to read that, 'cause really all I come into this thread for is to look at the pretty pictures. After all it's a MOVIE SPOILERS thread, not a NOVEL Spoiler thread. :(
 
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I was confused myself.

That really would suck if it happened to me, but since it happened to someone else, it is funny! (again, j/k)
 
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That's why there's a spoiler button. There is no use having 2 different threads on a subject it it can be helped. It's not that hard to use it. I don't care really, but this is for the people that do.

See, easy-peasy!!
 
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That's why there's a spoiler button. There is no use having 2 different threads on a subject it it can be helped. It's not that hard to use it. I don't care really, but this is for the people that do.

See, easy-peasy!!
I know and I really wish that guy had used it, I typically do not click on them.
 
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Ye be warned stepping into a SPOILER thread.


Has the new behind the scenes video been released yet? They comes out the 6th every month.
 
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:mwaha

It just sucks that I had to read that, 'cause really all I come into this thread for is to look at the pretty pictures. After all it's a MOVIE SPOILERS thread, not a NOVEL Spoiler thread. :(

For some reason I think the two are in fact the SAME spoilers! :rolleyes:
 
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Who dat? Who died??!?!? :D

I didn't want to mention any spopilers in my earlier posts either cause I knew some people were still reading the book to prepare for the movie. Although the (SPOILERS) in the thread title can be confusing as well, I agree.
 
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And Daisy gets hit by a car.

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Snape kills Dumbledore.
 
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I'll post these pics to try and save this thread from the turn for the stupid it was taking...

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