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he did make batman cool again. maybe he should've directed Watchmen
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WATCHMEN Movie Discussion (SPOILERS allowed)!
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You missed the whole point.....
Isildur's bane
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Well, I saw this on Wednesday night in IMAX and I was a little disappointed. The movie itself was a very faithful adaptation to the book, but certain elements held the movie back from being amazing. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie and can’t wait for the extended edition DVD, thinking it might add to some of the elements that I believed were missing.
1.Silk Specter II was just emotionless. Very wooden acting, and I wish they displayed more of the hatred she felt toward the Comedian.
2.I felt that Billy Crudup was disconnected from the disconnection Dr. Manhattan generally has (if that makes any sense), and there needed to be more scenes of developing Dr. Manhattan as a character, which to me fell a little short.
3.The origin story of Rorschach’s mask was a vital key to getting a better understanding of the character and should not have been left out.
4.More back-story for Ozzy.
5.More back-story for Niteowl
The Comedian and Rorschach were phenomenal and the best scenes were the ones when either of them were there. Overall, I believe the theatrical cut was not as good as it could have been and I hope that extended scenes in the DVD will allow me to enjoy the movie much more. I’d give it 6.5/10
1.Silk Specter II was just emotionless. Very wooden acting, and I wish they displayed more of the hatred she felt toward the Comedian.
2.I felt that Billy Crudup was disconnected from the disconnection Dr. Manhattan generally has (if that makes any sense), and there needed to be more scenes of developing Dr. Manhattan as a character, which to me fell a little short.
3.The origin story of Rorschach’s mask was a vital key to getting a better understanding of the character and should not have been left out.
4.More back-story for Ozzy.
5.More back-story for Niteowl
The Comedian and Rorschach were phenomenal and the best scenes were the ones when either of them were there. Overall, I believe the theatrical cut was not as good as it could have been and I hope that extended scenes in the DVD will allow me to enjoy the movie much more. I’d give it 6.5/10
hairlesswookiee
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what that the movie's cool because its not mainstream???
BadMoon
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Truth would mean that the intent is to discuss a fact. His OPINION is not the same as a fact.
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I don't think that's true. The Dark Knight resonated because it was so well made. Watchmen just wasn't. Pretending it's not mainstream and the sheep didn't get it is going to be the obvious defense, but at the end of the day Zack Snyder just isn't half the director Chris Nolan is and he made a plodding, pretty mess that doesn't hold up if you apply the barest hint of thought to it.
So your going to compare Batman,which has been around since the 40's, has had countless monthly series's, plot lines and characters, has had countless tv series, both animated and live action, has had 6 big budget movies and ranks amongst the highest earning franchises in movie history, and is part not only of comic culture, but of AMERICAN CULTURE.....to a 12 issue mini series written in the late 80's that was sparsley known outside of comic book circles before this film???? That sir, is an ABSURD statement....
Before Barbelith makes a fool out of this statement, I'd just like to say that there is nothing in this post that has anything to do with what is being compared in this discussion.
plasmid303
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So essentially 4 of your 5 complaints with the film boil down to "I wish they would have crammed a 4-5 hour movie into 3 hours."
I agree about Silk Spectre II though.
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what that the movie's cool because its not mainstream???
No, that costume was MADE to be a parody of the B&R suits.
Get off your high horse.
ProgMatinee
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The movie may or may not end up being a failure at the box office, but I think its absurd to say that the reason it will fail is simply because it sucked as a film.
There have been a lot of ^^^^ty ass films that have been successes at the box office and a lot of great films that weren't.
Most people don't go to see movies they don't know much about. Especially in a genre thats usually about popculture icons they are normaly familiar with. Such as comicbook characters.
A Flaming Carrot movie could be the greatest movie of all time.
A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie could be the worst of all time.
I bet you my mortgage that the TMNT will still win the BO.
There have been a lot of ^^^^ty ass films that have been successes at the box office and a lot of great films that weren't.
Most people don't go to see movies they don't know much about. Especially in a genre thats usually about popculture icons they are normaly familiar with. Such as comicbook characters.
A Flaming Carrot movie could be the greatest movie of all time.
A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie could be the worst of all time.
I bet you my mortgage that the TMNT will still win the BO.
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Don't even both with it, CP.
Truth without fact is just an opinion and nothing more. That goes for us all.
It's great to have discussions and different opinions, but when people keep repeating the same arguments over and over again it's just childish trolling...
If somebody hates the movie and made their point... move on...
there's no need to keep trying to force your opinion...
If somebody hates the movie and made their point... move on...
there's no need to keep trying to force your opinion...
So what's the point? What specific statement is being made with that suit, and how does that play out in the film? Good luck!
Isildur's bane
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No one said anything about cramming. The four things I did mention all together would just need an extra 14-16 minutes if done well.
No. I'm just rejecting the absurd notion that a $150 million movie about superheroes that caps a decade where superhero movies have been massive blockbusters including a $1 billion deconstruction of the genre is somehow "not mainstream."
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Anybody catch the scene during the opening sequence with Neil Armstrong on the moon? He says "Good luck Mr. Gorsky" , For those that don't know, supposedly when Neil Armstrong left the moon he spoke those words. It seems that when Neil was a young boy, he was playing ball with his brother and the ball went to his neighbors yard. As Neil went to retrieve it he heard his neighbor, Mr. Gorsky asking his wife , for a certain sexual favor. She replied "When the boy next door walks on the Moon!"..... I believe it is just an Urban Legend but still very funny and very clever of them to insert that in the movie!
It's a simple visual aesthetic reference to the suits in those films and all but tongue-in-cheek. Not everything has to be some mind-exploding "statement", Brainiac.
Okay. How does it parody those suits? What is it saying?
You are quite right.
I love the lack of irony here. Hilarious how nobody ever gets up on their high horse when people claim it's great.
ProgMatinee
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No. I'm just rejecting the absurd notion that a $150 million movie about superheroes that caps a decade where superhero movies have been massive blockbusters including a $1 billion deconstruction of the genre is somehow "not mainstream."
I seem to remember IJ saying TDK was "much more mainstream"...
Isn't that different than saying something isn't mainstream?
