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I for one really liked the music throughout the film. Liked all of the songs and felt they had appropriate timing. just my opinion though
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Dude, it's possessive.
Irony is delicious.
Just got back from seeing the movie and I enjoyed it. There were glaring things left out (due to time constraints) and the ending...well-- Still thinking about it. Overall I liked it.
Hey, I never said I can spell. But for Christ sakes....YOU! The easiest word in the world.
And dont stop me from attackin the troll!
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They had Night Owl's ship Archie outside of the theater at Universal Citywalk, it is bad ass!! took some pics with my phone.
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I wanna go in there.
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Trust me, I wanted to, but they had it roped off and security at each end of the stairs.
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You shoulda broke their fingers if they gave you any crap.
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Trust me, I wanted to, but they had it roped off and security at each end of the stairs.
Just like at Comicon.
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But its YOU! And he's being a troll....
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Meh. I faled engskh. sht teh fucj uo.
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Saw this and really liked it, measured up really well to the book. My only gripe is I feel the movie could have been about 40 mins shorter, without losing any meaning or content.
Other than that, great stuff
Rorschach was awesome, Jackie Earle Haley did a fantastic job bringing the character to life.
Other than that, great stuff
Rorschach was awesome, Jackie Earle Haley did a fantastic job bringing the character to life.
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It needed to be 40 minutes longer. There was stuff they totally needed in the book. Like Laurie not hating Blake enough, really not enough Comedian stuff.
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Yeah, can't wait to see the Director's Cut, I'm sure all those little added things will make it even more complete!
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They had Night Owl's ship Archie outside of the theater at Universal Citywalk, it is bad ass!! took some pics with my phone.
Yea, that was awesome. I actually asked the guy if I could get on the stairs and look inside and he actually said YES. It was great, awesome looking ship.
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Just saw it - and the film broke during the credits, I'm sure we didn't miss to much, but it broke right where the Writing credit for Alan Moore would have gone - perhaps a bit of the old black Magic from Magus Moore?
I really liked the film. In retrospect I even preferred the ending. Snyder did a good job of setting up a real world that just happens to have Dr. Manhattan in it - the transdimensional pseudo-space alien would have been just one more element that you'd be asking a mainstream audience to swallow - and it's not really necessary. Making it Dr. M -gives a bit more resonance to the character and it forces him to leave, even though he's just had his epiphany about how "miraculous" humans really are. I don't recall him having that epiphany in the book, but his departure isn't really necessary there.
One thing that took me out of the film - the 80s pop music. 99 Luft Balloons? I love that song, but it's a relic of a happy, poppy 80s - which this certainly isn't. The Sex Pistols (?) song during the credits was perfect - that's more in tone with the film. I would have preferred if they would have commissioned modern artists to write pseudo-punk songs that might actually have come out of the era. I thought Ride of the Valkyries was brilliant - I laughed out loud. In fact in recently re-reading the book, I found so much more of it funny - and I think Snyder actually tried to capture this "so dry it's a desert" kind of humor. The sex scene was definitely supposed to be funny, but it was also supposed to be hot. Good "art" can be two things at once and can be different things to different people - that's what working on levels means.
However I'm not sure that Snyder actually made "art" with this film. It's a good rendition of the novel - all the characters are there, the bigger themes are there - but some of the subtler stuff seems to have been missed. I really missed that John went back for the watch he had fixed himself - something he loved doing, that he did for the woman he loved. And then he was destroyed by the physics that his watchmaker father had forced him into as his life's work. This element didn't need to be changed for time in the film, but I can see how Snyder might not have felt it was important. Also with the castle on Mars - in the book it comes together like watch gears - in the film it doesn't really have that feel. And I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that Moore put into the book that I didn't get either that's missing from the film. Another thing I really missed from the book was the ironic/funny transitions from scene to scene. I believe almost every scene has a ironic transition such as the panel showing the Comedian going through the window is juxtaposed with the Detectives talking about the elevator "going down." I know this would have been difficult in the film - and Snyder did do it a couple of times, but I missed it.
But as with the big changed mentioned above - I thought that there was a lot in the film that was better than the book too. The novel is kind of an intellectual exercise without much emotional attachment - but in the film you care for the characters. I was touched by Dr. M's epiphany and by Dan's reaction to Rorschach's death - beating up Adrian and Adrian letting him.
As for the actors - I really don't understand the hate for Malin Ackerman - I thought she did a great job - it's not as bravura a performance as Rorscach or as subtle as Crudup as Manhattan, but I thought she did an excellent job. Morgan as the Comedian was great too - I actually liked the guy and he's even more reprehensible than in the book. And the guy who played Dan was just perfect too.
Overall I'm very glad that the previous incarnations of the film didn't get made and this one did. I think it works well both as an adaptation of a classic literary work and as a film in its own right.
I really liked the film. In retrospect I even preferred the ending. Snyder did a good job of setting up a real world that just happens to have Dr. Manhattan in it - the transdimensional pseudo-space alien would have been just one more element that you'd be asking a mainstream audience to swallow - and it's not really necessary. Making it Dr. M -gives a bit more resonance to the character and it forces him to leave, even though he's just had his epiphany about how "miraculous" humans really are. I don't recall him having that epiphany in the book, but his departure isn't really necessary there.
One thing that took me out of the film - the 80s pop music. 99 Luft Balloons? I love that song, but it's a relic of a happy, poppy 80s - which this certainly isn't. The Sex Pistols (?) song during the credits was perfect - that's more in tone with the film. I would have preferred if they would have commissioned modern artists to write pseudo-punk songs that might actually have come out of the era. I thought Ride of the Valkyries was brilliant - I laughed out loud. In fact in recently re-reading the book, I found so much more of it funny - and I think Snyder actually tried to capture this "so dry it's a desert" kind of humor. The sex scene was definitely supposed to be funny, but it was also supposed to be hot. Good "art" can be two things at once and can be different things to different people - that's what working on levels means.
However I'm not sure that Snyder actually made "art" with this film. It's a good rendition of the novel - all the characters are there, the bigger themes are there - but some of the subtler stuff seems to have been missed. I really missed that John went back for the watch he had fixed himself - something he loved doing, that he did for the woman he loved. And then he was destroyed by the physics that his watchmaker father had forced him into as his life's work. This element didn't need to be changed for time in the film, but I can see how Snyder might not have felt it was important. Also with the castle on Mars - in the book it comes together like watch gears - in the film it doesn't really have that feel. And I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that Moore put into the book that I didn't get either that's missing from the film. Another thing I really missed from the book was the ironic/funny transitions from scene to scene. I believe almost every scene has a ironic transition such as the panel showing the Comedian going through the window is juxtaposed with the Detectives talking about the elevator "going down." I know this would have been difficult in the film - and Snyder did do it a couple of times, but I missed it.
But as with the big changed mentioned above - I thought that there was a lot in the film that was better than the book too. The novel is kind of an intellectual exercise without much emotional attachment - but in the film you care for the characters. I was touched by Dr. M's epiphany and by Dan's reaction to Rorschach's death - beating up Adrian and Adrian letting him.
As for the actors - I really don't understand the hate for Malin Ackerman - I thought she did a great job - it's not as bravura a performance as Rorscach or as subtle as Crudup as Manhattan, but I thought she did an excellent job. Morgan as the Comedian was great too - I actually liked the guy and he's even more reprehensible than in the book. And the guy who played Dan was just perfect too.
Overall I'm very glad that the previous incarnations of the film didn't get made and this one did. I think it works well both as an adaptation of a classic literary work and as a film in its own right.
