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i've lived in really bad neighborhoods that had drive by shootings and such back in the 90's and have never owned a gun, sorry but they are not needed. these what if scenarios are just that "what if".

if i do get shot and die then so be it, it was my time but i don't live my life in fear of the what ifs. that's no way to live.

props for trying to be a good samaritan though.
 
i've lived in really bad neighborhoods that had drive by shootings and such back in the 90's and have never owned a gun, sorry but they are not needed. these what if scenarios are just that "what if".

if i do get shot and die then so be it, it was my time but i don't live my life in fear of the what ifs. that's no way to live.

props for trying to be a good samaritan though.

You will also have lived your life void of capitalization.
 
i've lived in really bad neighborhoods that had drive by shootings and such back in the 90's and have never owned a gun, sorry but they are not needed. these what if scenarios are just that "what if".

if i do get shot and die then so be it, it was my time but i don't live my life in fear of the what ifs. that's no way to live.

props for trying to be a good samaritan though.
I agree with you. If you get shot and die then it must of been your time. Me, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that my time comes around because I died of a heart attack during sex with the wife or liver failure from drinking to many beers. I also want to make sure I can do whatever I can to keep some piece of ____ from harming one little hair on the heads of my wife, kids, step kids. I'm sorry you choose to be a victim, I really am. But don't expect me to follow your lead. You don't like guns? That's fine you're allowed that. But don't expect me to give up mine.
 
i've lived in really bad neighborhoods that had drive by shootings and such back in the 90's and have never owned a gun, sorry but they are not needed. these what if scenarios are just that "what if".

if i do get shot and die then so be it, it was my time but i don't live my life in fear of the what ifs. that's no way to live.

props for trying to be a good samaritan though.

Whatever works for you. I would not be proud of being someone who was OK with being a victim.
 
I agree with you. If you get shot and die then it must of been your time. Me, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that my time comes around because I died of a heart attack during sex with the wife or liver failure from drinking to many beers. I also want to make sure I can do whatever I can to keep some piece of ____ from harming one little hair on the heads of my wife, kids, step kids. I'm sorry you choose to be a victim, I really am. But don't expect me to follow your lead. You don't like guns? That's fine you're allowed that. But don't expect me to give up mine.

Whatever works for you. I would not be proud of being someone who was OK with being a victim.

right, i don't see how i'm a victim since i'm still alive but you guys can delude yourself. i can take care of myself without guns (real men can).
 
I think you are not understanding shatterer of dreams at all. The fact that he doesn't need a gun to feel and/or live his life safer doesn't make him a victim
 
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right, i don't see how i'm a victim since i'm still alive but you guys can delude yourself. i can take care of myself without guns (real men can).


That is exactly what I expected you to say. Now read back through the thread and see if you can see the point I was trying to make.
 
right.....where exactly do you live that gunplay is so common? i find it funny when people give reasons for owning guns the reasons sound crazier then the people they a supposedly defending themselves from.
 
That is exactly what I expected you to say. Now read back through the thread and see if you can see the point I was trying to make.

my comments were not directed at you (except the part about being a good samaritan) but i do find it crazy that in this country we feel we need guns to protect ourselves when other countires do not. yes guns exist everywhere and violent crim happens everywhere but we're the only country the feels the need to arm ourselves to the teeth and then get upset that there's so much crime involving guns. i just don't get it.

I'm not saying everyone should have their guns taken away because i really don't care but i think most peoples reasoning for having guns is just plain nutty.
 
my comments were not directed at you (except the part about being a good samaritan) but i do find it crazy that in this country we feel we need guns to protect ourselves when other countires do not. yes guns exist everywhere and violent crim happens everywhere but we're the only country the feels the need to arm ourselves to the teeth and then get upset that there's so much crime involving guns. i just don't get it.

I'm not saying everyone should have their guns taken away because i really don't care but i think most peoples reasoning for having guns is just plain nutty.

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my comments were not directed at you (except the part about being a good samaritan) but i do find it crazy that in this country we feel we need guns to protect ourselves when other countires do not. yes guns exist everywhere and violent crim happens everywhere but we're the only country the feels the need to arm ourselves to the teeth and then get upset that there's so much crime involving guns. i just don't get it.

I'm not saying everyone should have their guns taken away because i really don't care but i think most peoples reasoning for having guns is just plain nutty.
Listen. I used an example of a seat belt earlier because it's kind of the same thing. Of course you have to use it for this to make sense. Most people use a seat belt for a "just in case thing" they hope there is never actually a reason for them to have to use it it but know that in an accident if it is doing its job it can possible save them from a lot of injuries if not death.

A gun is the kind of the same way. I do like to target shoot but hope I never, never, never have to use it to defend myself or my family. Most responsible gun owners don't sit around dreaming about wanting to take on the proverbial "bad guy", but we know they are out there and we are armed. Just in case.

I hate to use this as an example as it gets old but do you have a wife? children? It's simple to say that if it's your time than oh well, but when it involves a loved one especially your kids, well it honestly puts things in a different perspective.

And I'm not insulting ************. I'm a pretty big guy, 6' tall 260 pounds. I have some fat around my midsection but I'm pretty strong. That all means squat "if" some doped vagrant smashes in my door with an Aluminum bat and proceeds to beat me senseless with it. And after he takes care of me I have a wife and 4 teen girls in the house. No, as soon as someone starts trying to crash through my door I will be armed and I will fire if I think we are in danger. It really is as simple as that.

Will it happen? Probably not. But unlike you I am not willing to take that chance.
 
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Will it happen? Probably not. But unlike you I am not willing to take that chance.

The case you are narrating is as probable as a drunk neighbour trying to open your door by mistake or that one of your daughters shoots someone else by accident
 
Listen. I used an example of a seat belt earlier because it's kind of the same thing. Of course you have to use it for this to make sense. Most people use a seat belt for a "just in case thing" they hope there is never actually a reason for them to have to use it it but know that in an accident if it is doing its job it can possible save them from a lot of injuries if not death.

A gun is the kind of the same way. I do like to target shoot but hope I never, never, never have to use it to defend myself or my family. Most responsible gun owners don't sit around dreaming about wanting to take on the proverbial "bad guy", but we know they are out there and we are armed. Just in case.

I hate to use this as an example as it gets old but do you have a wife? children? It's simple to say that if it's your time than oh well, but when it involves a loved one especially your kids, well it honestly puts things in a different perspective.

And I'm not insulting ************. I'm a pretty big guy, 6' tall 260 pounds. I have some fat around my midsection but I'm pretty strong. That all means squat "if" some doped vagrant smashes in my door with an Aluminum bat and proceeds to beat me senseless with it. And after he takes care of me I have a wife and 4 teen girls in the house. No, as soon as someone starts trying to crash through my door I will be armed and I will fire if I think we are in danger. It really is as simple as that.

Will it happen? Probably not. But unlike you I am not willing to take that chance.

well the seatbelt analogy is a bad one because most people only wear it because it's the law (myself included) and again i'm not saying guns should be taken away - i understand wanting to protect your family - but ultimately you can defend yourself using other things besides a gun or your knuckles. there was a time when the gun was a last resort unfortunately now it seems to be most people's first.
 
Listen. I used an example of a seat belt earlier because it's kind of the same thing. Of course you have to use it for this to make sense. Most people use a seat belt for a "just in case thing" they hope there is never actually a reason for them to have to use it it but know that in an accident if it is doing its job it can possible save them from a lot of injuries if not death.

A gun is the kind of the same way. I do like to target shoot but hope I never, never, never have to use it to defend myself or my family. Most responsible gun owners don't sit around dreaming about wanting to take on the proverbial "bad guy", but we know they are out there and we are armed. Just in case.

I hate to use this as an example as it gets old but do you have a wife? children? It's simple to say that if it's your time than oh well, but when it involves a loved one especially your kids, well it honestly puts things in a different perspective.

And I'm not insulting ************. I'm a pretty big guy, 6' tall 260 pounds. I have some fat around my midsection but I'm pretty strong. That all means squat "if" some doped vagrant smashes in my door with an Aluminum bat and proceeds to beat me senseless with it. And after he takes care of me I have a wife and 4 teen girls in the house. No, as soon as someone starts trying to crash through my door I will be armed and I will fire if I think we are in danger. It really is as simple as that.

Will it happen? Probably not. But unlike you I am not willing to take that chance.

Random thought. I know a lot of people are afraid of the government taking their guns away. With all due respect, when has that ever even been considered? Most of the time it is ridiculous paranoia resulting from some kind of new legislation to make guns harder to obtain, so some random joe blow can't just go to a store and pick one up. Do you really think your guns will be taken away by force? It seems outlandish. Also, do you need a gun to feel safe? I personally would find it hard for me to feel safe with a gun in my home, but then again I understand where you are coming from. I don't mean to direct this question to you directly, but you are clearly a proud gun owner so I thought I'd ask.
 
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