risingstar
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You would likely be amazed at learning at how many women forward love letters and marriage proposals to murderers and seriel killers in jail. There was a show on this at some point. Astounding stuff.
What movie everybody else loves but you hate?
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You would likely be amazed at learning at how many women forward love letters and marriage proposals to murderers and seriel killers in jail. There was a show on this at some point. Astounding stuff.
I can find some murder scenes quite disturbing as well.
I know what you mean, but, well serial killer is different than rapist and abuser, Alex wasn't a killer, he was just a trouble maker, sure he might have killed, but it was more the rape that makes it weird. the thing I find odd is how girls dress as him, lol,
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you might want to rethink that... they would probably be wearing strapons.....
seriously that movie sucked so bad, I was like, WTF? terrible boring mess.
like I was trying to say before too, in those scenes of rape like this movie or I spit on your Grave remake (which is really graphic and violent rape)
There are women actresses working, those women are getting hired to do rape scenes, they are just fake, like What i am trying to say is, yes they are bad, but what about the girls working in the scenes themselves? isn't weird? like, are they weird girls? or is just a job? or is just a movie?
Correct me if I am wrong, I remember reading an article about the movie where they explained that one of the rape victim actresses quit because she found the whole thing too sick or something like that.
Lejuan
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Ive always thought it was funny how a rape scene in a movie is perceived as "horrible" to many, but murder is just another, everyday movie element ....
I am afraid we have been "conditioned" to be accustomed to killing in movies...
Agreed.
I would argue that watching someone get shot is not the same as watching someone being brutally gang-raped.
Lejuan
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Back on topic: Haggis's Crash. Stupidest conflation of events ever, masquerading as clever storytelling. And 3 Oscars for ____'s sake.
devilof76
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Never saw it, and on purpose.
Rape is abominable, but murder is the taking of a life. That is an acceptable cinematic device, but rape is obscene?
No film in reputable cinema would ever show penetration in a rape scene, yet seeing skulls take a bullet or limbs get chopped is standard. That fact is that rape---like every human action, murder included---is something entirely different on a stage. It's an artifice manufatured to serve the purpose of a plot; it is not an act of brutality against a woman.
I don't watch the last scene of Seven. I'll leave the room. That has nothing to do with how excellent of a climax that scene is, nor how excellent of a film it is.
Rape is abominable, but murder is the taking of a life. That is an acceptable cinematic device, but rape is obscene?
No film in reputable cinema would ever show penetration in a rape scene, yet seeing skulls take a bullet or limbs get chopped is standard. That fact is that rape---like every human action, murder included---is something entirely different on a stage. It's an artifice manufatured to serve the purpose of a plot; it is not an act of brutality against a woman.
I don't watch the last scene of Seven. I'll leave the room. That has nothing to do with how excellent of a climax that scene is, nor how excellent of a film it is.
My problem with rape, especially the gang-rape scenes from A Clockwork Orange, is how a group of people brutally rape someone, humiliate and makes that person suffer, for a long time too (they even did this in front of her husband who couldn't do ____ but watch). The whole thing about those scenes were disturbing compared to Han Solo shooting a Stormtrooper or a Samurai chopping of an enemy's head...
I think it's delusional of some people to compare rape or those scenes from A Clockwork Orange with the unrealistic "regular gun killings" scenes we see in Hollywood action flicks today. Though there are very disturbing murder scenes which I prefer not to watch..
My problem is not only with rape. But simply, I don't like nor can I enjoy watching others being brutally abused. You of all people on this forum should know that. I know movies are fake, but sometimes it's so well done it really makes you think.
I think it's delusional of some people to compare rape or those scenes from A Clockwork Orange with the unrealistic "regular gun killings" scenes we see in Hollywood action flicks today. Though there are very disturbing murder scenes which I prefer not to watch..
My problem is not only with rape. But simply, I don't like nor can I enjoy watching others being brutally abused. You of all people on this forum should know that. I know movies are fake, but sometimes it's so well done it really makes you think.
Darth Cruel
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So, at the end of the day...am I right to say that this is all just a personal feeling of yours and not something that is felt by most people?
Might be, I don't have any statistical facts about what the human population thinks about watching brutal gang-rape and others being abused. I never said that I spoke for everyone. I even posted this in a thread that says "movie everybody else loves but you hate" because I know a lot of people love this movie.
Darth Cruel
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Fair enough. For me...any kind of violence is disturbing and I cling to things that tend to be more survivable.
Mad Old Lu
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I think Dracula touches on what I think is a big difference between showing a rape and a killing in a movie. Of course both are horrible acts against humanity, but like Dracula pointed out, it is the drawn-out torture of rape that makes it seem much more disturbing, as opposed to being shot or having your head chopped off. It's brutal but it's quick. Likewise, a killing can be just as horrifying and disturbing when the shot lingers on the life being drained away, like in SPR in the end battle with Adam Goldberg's death scene where the knife is slowly plunged into him. Or in the movie the Strangers where the main characters are stabbed repeatedly but they still linger. Or even seeing a zombie horde overtake a person and the person is slowly eviscerated. It's seeing that suffering and helplessness take place over an extended period of time that is most disturbing.
Because when you're killed, it's over, when you're raped it's not.
Darth Cruel
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Now, I am not a woman, so I do not know how rape affects them.
But it seems to me that when you die...it is over. When you are raped...you are still around to recover.
I won't watch the scene in Deliverance where they rape Ned Beatty. I won't watch rape scenes when I know they're coming on. But then I won't watch any kind of torture if I can avoid it. That's why I've never seen Passion of the Christ and any Saw movies. I won't watch where they torture Mel Gibson in Braveheart either. It's just different and it's hard to explain. I know where Drac is coming from.
Depends.......you can recover physically, but many never recover mentally.
Is he going to kill me? Is he going to give me some horrible disease? Is he going to get me pregnant? Will he come back? Will he do it again? What will my husband think? My boyfriend? My family?
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