What's Happening in the UK?

[intothevoid]

Also, new Pew Research Center study released last month.

https://www.pewforum.org/Muslim/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-exec.aspx

Yeah, many of those views are problematic - particularly ones relating to wanting to impose sharia law on all (including non muslims). That has no basis in the Quran.

All comes back to the same thing - Islam as a religion has been steered well away from its core by those with influence and ulterior motives. It will take a monumental effort to change this course.

 

[devilof76]

The thing with all that is that those views are held by the vast majority, and not just in countries where the Saudis are trying to ruin Islam.

Well as far as atheism goes - at least I can say you are atheist then for the right reasons, IE judgement not based on how how adherents behave.

To you religion by nature is irrational - to me, the existence of the Universe and of human life by its nature is impossible without the hand of a God. I'm very interested by science mind you - reading books on Quantum and String Theory right now, so i'm not speaking from a place of 'ignorance' so to speak.

But I respect your view and your right to hold it and express it.

You show me how science leaves room for a god, and I'll show you how faith is an illusion. Reality neither needs a god to exist, nor does it permit for one (the mystics foxholed in quantum mechanics notwithstanding).

A code of ethics based on a concept that is anathema to all of reality is going to have problems when people attempt to practice it.

 

[pixletwin]

I think any institution that encourages humans to serve and sacrifice for others is a good thing.

 

[intothevoid]

You show me how science leaves room for a god, and I'll show you how faith is an illusion. Reality neither needs a god to exist, nor does it permit for one (the mystics foxholed in quantum mechanics notwithstanding).

A code of ethics based on a concept that is anathema to all of reality is going to have problems when people attempt to practice it.

For starters, what set the big bang in motion?

What accounts for the infinitely miniscule odds that human life could be possible on the Earth?

Quantum mechanics is rife with inexplicability which leaves room for God, so you can't just ignore that. At present, its the best understanding of the workings of the Universe science has.

 

[The Ween]

I was gone a few hours!

I was asking about the Union Jack.

 

[pixletwin]

I was gone a few hours!

I was asking about the Union Jack.

 

[EVILFACE]

Yeah right your country is just as ****ed up as everyone else's

I'm doing just fine.

 

[intothevoid]

I was gone a few hours!

I was asking about the Union Jack.

 

[devilof76]

For starters, what set the big bang in motion?

What accounts for the infinitely miniscule odds that human life could be possible on the Earth?

Quantum mechanics is rife with inexplicability which leaves room for God, so you can't just ignore that. At present, its the best understanding of the workings of the Universe science has.

What big bang?

Science is rife with inexplicabilities. Argument from ignorance doesn't cut it.

 

[Voorhees27]

Good going Ween

 

[intothevoid]

What big bang?

Science is rife with inexplicabilities. That's why we have it.

And to that I say, the day that Science's work is done, is the day it will have proved the existence of God.

 

[The Ween]

Can I go somewhere anyway? I always wanted to see Prince Edward Island. I think I'll go there.

Come with me to New Zealand, Marc. The Hobbit is filming pick-ups now. We can play with dwarves! Well, I can, you can go play somewhere else.

 

[pixletwin]

I always thought of myself as more of a Hobbit...

 

[The Ween]

I'm essentially atheist aswell. I don't claim to know for a fact that there's no god or afterlife but I am more inclined to believe that there isn't. So perhaps I'm agnostic with stronger leanings towards atheism. And I doubt that will ever change.

So it does frustrate and anger me a huge amount the idea of people killing other people because of religious beliefs. I think its a terrible waste of life over nothing. That guy murdered in the street in the UK is just dead. And when his murderers die they too will be just dead. I think if people the world over believed that this life on Earth is the only existance they will ever experience there would be less killing, stress on the word 'less'.

Yup.....just "Imagine"

Though I have my own beliefs, I just hope it isn't what people are killing each other over.

 

[devilof76]

And to that I say, the day that Science's work is done, is the day it will have proved the existence of God.

So when science is finished, faith will be obsolete? Why do you need science to establish a conclusion for which faith has already provided certainty?

I don't believe that science is necessary to prove or disprove the existence of a god. The question and answer are philosophical.

 

[devilof76]

I always thought of myself as more of a Hobbit...

Me too, though I've been accused of having elf somewhere in the mix.

 

[pixletwin]

My older brothers actually convinced me when I was 4 years old that we were descended from an old and prestigious Hobbit family.

 

[The Ween]

Me too, though I've been accused of having elf somewhere in the mix.

Bake me a cookie!

 

[The Josh]

Come with me to New Zealand, Marc. The Hobbit is filming pick-ups now. We can play with dwarves! Well, I can, you can go play somewhere else.

I see. I let you warm my feet and you don't even ask me.

 

[The Ween]

My older brothers actually convinced me when I was 4 years old that we were an old and prestigious Hobbit family.

I've been called a Gnome before, but never a Hobbit.

I wonder if I was being insulted.