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Short bus folk think Iron Man is anything more than pretty good.
Which Movie Did you Prefer...IM or TDK?
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Iron Man rocks. But TDK is fantastic. Yes, they're both superhero flicks...but they're so vastly different.
Havok
Super Freak
I voted Iron Man, I just liked it better overall. I think Heath Ledger MADE TDK though, such a standout performance.
I liked them both a lot, but there is no competition here to me. The Dark Knight is a "great" movie.
Scar
Super Freak
Iron Man is the very definition of a badass superhero film. As others have already suggested, it is a movie that revolved elegantly around the protagonist, around the hero, for its entirety. An origin story that made you root for the flawed hero every step of the way, it had action, humor, romance... it succeeded because it literally appealed to every demographic. One hell of a lot of people turned out just to see Robert Downey Jr.'s stellar performance, never mind the awesome special effects and well-crafted story.
The one weakness of Iron Man, for me, was the biggest strength of The Dark Knight - the villain. In most good vs. evil, hero vs. villain type movies, the make or break factor for me is whether or not I find the villain fitting and menacing enough to fuel the plot. In storytelling, it is usually the antagonist who is the driving force behind the tale; pushing it past moments built in merely to flesh out the story and remind us that there is a very real threat that looms at every instant. TDK opted for realism in its portrayal of the hero, but also in the villain, who was crafted not just with an eye to the Joker of the comics, but in an effort to generate what I believe is the archetypal arch villain; literally the best fleshed-out, envisaged, incarnation of a villain ever to be portrayed on screen.
Obidiah Stane was good for Iron Man, but it's because he is a brillaint and greedy industrialist who wants Tony out of the way so that he can amass even greater wealth and fame. Really, Obi is just there to provide Tony with some opposition as we see Tony's story brought to life. Iron Man is the driving force behind the plot of Iron Man, with Tony's genius literally rebuilding him into a new man throughout the story. Conversely, in TDK the Joker is the obvious "unstoppable force" that moves the story forward at breakneck speed. Unlike Obi, the Joker is very careful to point out that he isn't motivated by money. Why would he be? This is a man who doesn't live by society's conventions; if he wants something, he takes it, he doesn't worry about how he's going to pay for it. Money is useless to him, it's that simple. One villain is the greedy industrialist, the other embraces what it means to be a villain into his very soul. He comes onto the scene in TDK because he is the bad guy; the message he is endeavoring to send to Gotham, to Batman, and to the world, is that all which separates him from them is that he knows he's a monster.
Not to take anything from Batman, because in this movie I believe he truly evolved as a character, pushing his boundaries, realizing his limitations, and coming to terms with a new breed of villain which is largely reactionary to his heroic presence. Batman already had his origin, though, in another equally stellar film that I would put on par with IM, Batman Begins. With IM and TDK, one movie is driven by the hero while the other is driven by the villain, and the latter is what makes TDK the darker film. For that reason, I give TDK my personal preference, but it doesn't diminish the brilliance of IM. I just likes me my villains.
The one weakness of Iron Man, for me, was the biggest strength of The Dark Knight - the villain. In most good vs. evil, hero vs. villain type movies, the make or break factor for me is whether or not I find the villain fitting and menacing enough to fuel the plot. In storytelling, it is usually the antagonist who is the driving force behind the tale; pushing it past moments built in merely to flesh out the story and remind us that there is a very real threat that looms at every instant. TDK opted for realism in its portrayal of the hero, but also in the villain, who was crafted not just with an eye to the Joker of the comics, but in an effort to generate what I believe is the archetypal arch villain; literally the best fleshed-out, envisaged, incarnation of a villain ever to be portrayed on screen.
Obidiah Stane was good for Iron Man, but it's because he is a brillaint and greedy industrialist who wants Tony out of the way so that he can amass even greater wealth and fame. Really, Obi is just there to provide Tony with some opposition as we see Tony's story brought to life. Iron Man is the driving force behind the plot of Iron Man, with Tony's genius literally rebuilding him into a new man throughout the story. Conversely, in TDK the Joker is the obvious "unstoppable force" that moves the story forward at breakneck speed. Unlike Obi, the Joker is very careful to point out that he isn't motivated by money. Why would he be? This is a man who doesn't live by society's conventions; if he wants something, he takes it, he doesn't worry about how he's going to pay for it. Money is useless to him, it's that simple. One villain is the greedy industrialist, the other embraces what it means to be a villain into his very soul. He comes onto the scene in TDK because he is the bad guy; the message he is endeavoring to send to Gotham, to Batman, and to the world, is that all which separates him from them is that he knows he's a monster.
Not to take anything from Batman, because in this movie I believe he truly evolved as a character, pushing his boundaries, realizing his limitations, and coming to terms with a new breed of villain which is largely reactionary to his heroic presence. Batman already had his origin, though, in another equally stellar film that I would put on par with IM, Batman Begins. With IM and TDK, one movie is driven by the hero while the other is driven by the villain, and the latter is what makes TDK the darker film. For that reason, I give TDK my personal preference, but it doesn't diminish the brilliance of IM. I just likes me my villains.
minivader
Super Freak
ironman without a question.
DO you watch movies? Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman 2nd-4th tier actors? I don't think you qualify enough to call anyone cinematically illiterate.
thenammagazine
Super Freak
I chose Iron Man. Taking Heath Ledger's death hype out of the equation and looking at both films realistically, Iron Man had a better story and stronger actors in the leads. One really has to wonder if TDK would've been as big a success if Ledger was still with us.
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TDK:dump
TDK:dump
Dally
Super Freak
I prefer TDK. I've always been a big Batman fan and this movie was a Batman fan's dream come true. I really liked Ledger's Joker too. I also really liked Iron Man, but I liked TDK more I suppose.
thenammagazine
Super Freak
Which I thought made it a bit ADD. A shoestring plot surrounded by high-end action in an effort to cover up the lack of a decent screenplay injected with three villains, Scarecrow, Joker and Two Face (sounds a bit like Batman & Robin but with a bigger budget and less fluorescent lights).
While Ledger played a brilliant psychopath, he just didn't scream "Joker" to me and I've been collecting the comics now for almost 30 years. There were only two real "Joker" moments in the whole film. The first was the unraveling coat/grenade pin gag, and the second, the pencil trick. The rest was cookie-cutter psycho which could've been just about anyone from Batman's rogue gallery.
While Batman should have been the main focus of the movie (it's a Batman movie after all), it seemed like he took a back seat to Joker and Dent. That's not saying that there weren't ample amounts of screen time with Bats, just that his parts weren't necessarilly the most memorable in the film.
Additionally, they spend all that time working up Dent as a viable non-superhero protagonist to battle the Joker and it all leads up to creating a fantastically phenomenal villain in two-face by the end of the second act, then kill him off in the third for a cheesy epilogue lead-in to Gordon's gay speech.
In this film, the Joker and Batman are merely tools (I don't mean that derogatory, but literally) in realizing Two Face's origin, realization and death, yet they bill it as a Joker movie?! See what I mean by ADD?
nozzlewizard
Super Freak
TDK easy, err
Although its a bit of a chore to watch, its nice and dark, quite serious and but numbingly long, where as Iron Man is perfectly entertaining, lots of explosions, spectacular effects and just the right length for a pop corn movie.
Iron Man just shades it. But I still love the bat.
Although its a bit of a chore to watch, its nice and dark, quite serious and but numbingly long, where as Iron Man is perfectly entertaining, lots of explosions, spectacular effects and just the right length for a pop corn movie.
Iron Man just shades it. But I still love the bat.
galactiboy
OT Preferist
I loved both movies... I think Iron Man was more fun, but TDK was overall a better movie. So a slight edge to TDK.
Although my favorite movie of the summer was Wall-E
Although my favorite movie of the summer was Wall-E
Corky >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shai Hulud
Skiman
Super Freak
IM still rules!!! 
that statement right there is getting really OLD!!!
Ledger was Amazing, everyone knows it, and TDK was a huge success, whether he's gone or not the movie kicked A$$, and yes granted the movie was better with him in it, but thats the whole Damn point!
People went to go see TDK because BB was Great and a second movie was highly anticipated, and then they heard the buzz on how good Ledger really was in the film, they didn't go because he was dead!!
thenammagazine
Super Freak
To deny there wasn't any extra hype surrounding the film as a result of his death is ridiculous. Shoot, WB got more advertising for the film out of Ledger's death in media announcements than what they initially paid for to hype it with advertising. How many times did they say "The Dark Knight" in the news announcements, radio reports, internet sites, gossip columns, etc., when mentioning his passing? EVERY SINGLE TIME! People went to see it as many times as they did because the damn name was hammered into their head consistently and repeatedly through subliminal means. Your point would be entirely more sound if Ledger had died after the film's release.
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