Why have all the PFs depreciated so significantly?

[JSA]

Call them DOLLS and see what kind of uproar you create! :zzwhip

JS

 

[BDboystoys]

Tom you made some superb points I gotta say. Sumed up you ideas perfectly, and defined what I think 12"s are too (in a good way)

Still I have to say, although these are 'toys' that a child could play with, theyre really up a few levels in every way. Hasbro would be my idea of kids toys they can rip apart, drool on and play with. When its sidehsow, its different. The sculpts are nearly always to perfection, the artists and sculptors who work on them use so much care and effort(unlike the crap Hasblow churn out over and over for $$$) You really get the impression Sideshow cares and they cater for an older age group who can apprieciate the quality of products they produce.
Same would go for HT and Medicom imo.

This is a great disscussion we've got here! I enjoyed writing that!

 

[tomandshell]

Still I have to say, although these are 'toys' that a child could play with, theyre really up a few levels in every way. Hasbro would be my idea of kids toys they can rip apart, drool on and play with. When its sidehsow, its different.

Yes, if one of my kids ripped apart any of my Sideshow figures, they would regret it. (When they regained consciousness...)

 

[BDboystoys]

Yes, if one of my kids ripped apart any of my Sideshow figures, they would regret it. (When they regained consciousness...)

Us collectors are very protective of our things. I get particularly cautious when cousins and co. 'come over to play'
Even more cautious about them touching my staues all the time with theyre dirty dirty hands!

 

[Darth Loki]

Yes, if one of my kids ripped apart any of my Sideshow figures, they would regret it. (When they regained consciousness...)

Yeah, my ex wouldn't even clean in the basement for fear of damaging one of my beloved statues. At least that was her excuse. Of course she didn't really clean anywhere in the house so I think she was just lying.

 

[tomandshell]

Us collectors are very protective of our things. I get particularly cautious when cousins and co. 'come over to play'
Even more cautious about them touching my staues all the time with theyre dirty dirty hands!

I just get nervous when oblivious coworkers come into my office and lean on one of my shelves to support their full body weight. Sometimes I will ask them to guess how much the Padme maquette next to their elbow is worth. They think I am kidding when I tell them.

Yeah, my ex wouldn't even clean in the basement for fear of damaging one of my beloved statues. At least that was her excuse. Of course she didn't really clean anywhere in the house so I think she was just lying.

 

[The Josh]

Nah, It's all good Tom. Hopefully nobody took your post the wrong way. I knew what you meant. A lot of people misread my posts so I know the feeling.

Yeah, my ex wouldn't even clean in the basement for fear of damaging one of my beloved statues. At least that was her excuse. Of course she didn't really clean anywhere in the house so I think she was just lying.

 

[nash]

For this scale, the likeness should be much closer.

I agree. whats up with luke's face (both of them), and vader's helmet?

 

[nash]

Yes, if one of my kids ripped apart any of my Sideshow figures, they would regret it. (When they regained consciousness...)

haha tom:emperor

 

[Radagaster]

One thing I've noticed to date is that SS doesn't produce the same PF in 12" scale. I mean the costume of course. Having said that . . .I can see where they'll only produce Boba Fett in PF, but they could do a Jango Fett in 12". You can see where releasing the same item in 12" and PF would not make sense. Having mentioned that, it would mean that the only way you're gonna score a Boba Fett is via PF. So . . .I believe SS plans to keep both lines unique, which would make me happy. BUT, it also means some people who are sticking to one format may be out of luck if I predict correctly.

As for depreciation . . . all we have to do is look at spaceman's site and see how some GG stuff is expensive and hasn't come down in price, especially now that it's sold out and hardly on Ebay.

 

[Darth Scourge]

Sideshow have commented before that they will release the same characters/costumes in both 12" and PF, but will put some space between them. So it'll be awhile before we see a 12" Boba, Tatooine Luke, ANH Han etc.

 

[larbob]

I agree with several that the PF line edition size is too high. As a minimum they should make the Exclusive, exactly that, very low number ie: several hundred only..and then make plenty of Regular editions to satisfy demand...this could create more collecting excitement for the line....what will be the BIG 3 like we had in the SS/Weta LOTR line. Throw in a surprise edition size like they did with the New Born Uruk...that kind of thing.

With the 30th anniversary of SW coming next year the market is being saturated with stuff from every manufacturer....many options to capture our dollars.

In the SW PF line Obi is still the best human likeness...which may also be causing some issues as folks compare PFs to other SW products or wait for a better future rendition of their favorite character.

Collecting is great fun!

 

[MisterToyNYC]

Oh C'mon! They are toys. Say it with me, "I collect toys." Call it whatever you want... action figure, adult collectible, man-doll, whatever. You know and I know, they are TOYS. Just enjoy it.

Eric

 

[Darth Madden]

As for me I consider the 12" line as PF since there is no way I would be able to afford the real PF ones. I have no problem with anybody calling them toys or dolls or whatever or if they consider the real PF ones to be better.. if I could afford them all I might think the same way. But I am very happy with what I can get and making the Jabba throne room scene will be very fun and something that I wouldn't be able to do with the PF figures.

 

[EVILFACE]

To me, the 12" figures are cute toys that keep me busy in between the "real" Star Wars products--the PF statues.

That's a pretty elitist thing to say. I heard that same BS for years from 12" GIJoe fans towards the 3 3/4" figures.

The PF line is overpriced, that is why they drop. Demand for something will always dictate it's "value"

 

[tomandshell]

That's a pretty elitist thing to say. I heard that same BS for years from 12" GIJoe fans towards the 3 3/4" figures.

The PF line is overpriced, that is why they drop. Demand for something will always dictate it's "value"

I already found that people were reading that comment the wrong way and apologized. I apologize again if I have offended you with my comments. I prefer the PFs to the 12" figures, but happily collect both lines.

 

[EVILFACE]

Sorry, you cannot be scolded enough.

I will come in here tomorrow and say the same till Crom cast you out of Valhalla and laugh at you.

That's Crom, strong on his mountain!

 

[tomandshell]

I chose my words poorly, by Crom!!!



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[The Josh]

Like Tom said both lines are great and put some kick ass stuff in our collections. Both lines bring the best of that mediums work to the Star Wars licences and I'm glad that we all can be apart of the fun.

 

[Khev]

But for me they are just appetizers leading up to the main course.

For you the 12 inchers are appetizers to PF, for me it looks like they're going to be the gateway drug....