Will the failure of the Last Jedi affect the value of OT collectibles?

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Audience rating on rotten tomato is 50% and dropping. The lowest audience score of any star wars movie, including TPM (59%) and AOTC (57%).

I'm definitely interested in a rose PF, or even better yet, maybe a "rose kissing fin" diorama. preferably in 1/4 scale and fully sculpted, that would be a day 1 PO for me

I'm holding out for a legendary scale Leia Poppins.

 

[ebor]

To answer the OP's question; No this movie will not damage the feeble attempts by some 'fans' to devalue OT collectibles (so that they can now somehow swoop in and grab mint on card OT Kenner figures and flip them like people flip the next cool thing---how is that for a tin-foil hat crazy conspiracy!! LOL)

seriously though, you never know?

 

[SOU7567]

With every collectible release related to characters people don't care about (so, the new ones), the value of OT/PT collectibles increases.

Why? Because it's an extremely slow industry. It's months or years of waiting, constantly.
When you see Sideshow release a new PF from Rogue One, or when they inevitably release aa909's favorite, war hero Rose Tico, it pushes back potential interesting releases even more. What does this mean for the secondary market?

Well, no new ROTJ Luke PF will make the old one more valuable. No new cool Sith or Jedi PF will make the old ones more valuable. Etc...

Look at the prices of Master Replicas lightsabers. Not even the ones from the OT, look at the PT ones. Sidious, Yoda, ROTS Anakin... All those hilts that used to be worth barely $300 a few years ago sell for up to triple that nowadays.
Look at the prices for the Mythos line. Madness. I consider myself lucky to own just two.

No matter how successful the movies in terms of box office, an 8 year old kid and his mom aren't going to buy Premium Format statues. The collectors are the hardcore fans, aka the most split demographic of the fanbase when it comes to the new movies. If they have a hard time bonding with the new characters, they will look to the past. That means an increase in value for older collectibles.

This.

The only thing this film will affect if the future merchandise about this film, due to the lukewarm reception by the Star Wars community (so it appears), merch whether it is collectibles like PF's or action figures might go down.

Besides Jedi Padawan Rey I wouldn't even think about picking up any SSC TLJ PF.

Why would it effect the OT Collectibles? It's the only true Starwars that exists

And dumb post of the day goes to..

 

[karamazov80]

I realize there are a lot of people who "dislike" condescending and annoying threads. But could someone else please start another one of these about this same topic? We really need to get to the bottom of this.

 

[Deedzy]

Both sides will cherry pick things to make their points appear more valid. At the end of the day the movie wasn't a "failure" per say but if there was any damage done we will see the flow on effect starting with solo.

As I see it critics appear to enjoy it but I take their opinions with a grain of salt as there are only a few I actually trust to be objective.

Audiences appear to split with the majority of older fans outright hating it, again not an exact science but it's a claim I'm confident in putting out there when you look at the numbers...

Yes it made money up front but it's star wars and if you were expecting anything else you need to get your head examined but even the biggest defenders can't deny the FACT that it earn much less than Ep7 and only just beat RO. It had the biggest drop off in earnings from its opening this year with the exception of Justice League. It outright bombed in China.

The biggest factor to me is the drop off in western countries though, that tells me that the majority of fans like myself just aren't going back for repeated viewings like we normally do.

I don't think it'll hurt the value of collectibles by itself but the over saturation of star wars movies may have an effect. I just hope all the industry gossip about Solo being a steaming pile is wrong because I really want it to be good!

 

[El Toro]

Also, most collectors don't like signatures on their props. So, it was probably for the best that MH didn't sign your dl-44. Master Replicas offered the signatures on separate plaques for that reason.

I don't think that the fans' reaction to TLJ will affect collectible prices. However, if there is a long lull between movies or Star Wars stops production, then the prices might level out or decrease.

 

[INFECDEAD]

"It doesn't matter if its good, so long as it makes money" Luke Skywalker

 

[Amphion]

The movie has 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, it's made 1.2 billion dollars and has an "A" Cinemascore (the only audience score that matters since it guarantees that the person actually saw the movie).

If that's a definition of a "failure" then I hope every movie I like "fails" that hard.

 

[jkno]

I'd rather watch this than watch TLJ again - and glad I didn't pay a dime to watch TLJ:

 

[Scottpe]

If you remove the snarky message at the top, that's actually a pretty neat poster lol.

 

[Scottpe]

To answer the OP's question, I believe that the release of the new movies, good or bad, generally increases the value of OT related collectibles. For the long-time fans, their love for the OT is simply reaffirmed with each new movie -- I know that's the case for me -- and many new Star Wars collectors may start with the newer stuff, but will usually tend to follow the trail of collectibles back to the movie series' roots, increasing demand for those items.

Regardless of how you feel about the new movies, there is no changing the profound impact that Star Wars has had on popular culture and the movie making industry, and because of that the OT collectibles will always be desirable.

 

[aa909]

The movie has 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, it's made 1.2 billion dollars and has an "A" Cinemascore (the only audience score that matters since it guarantees that the person actually saw the movie).

If that's a definition of a "failure" then I hope every movie I like "fails" that hard.

According to cinemascore TPM and AOTC are both A- so there’s that LOL!!

 

[aa909]

Now a 49% on Rotten Tomato’s and dropping.

 

[aa909]

Duplicate post

 

[Amphion]

Now a 49% on Rotten Tomato’s and dropping.

The 92% is a critics score I was referring to.

 

[Amphion]

According to cinemascore TPM and AOTC are both A- so there’s that LOL!!

If you follow Cinemascore, there's a MASSIVE difference between an A and an A-. I know that in college that's considered nearly the same grade but on Cinemascore even a B is considered pretty disappointing.

But I get what you're saying. Thing about that Rotten Tomatoes score is that there were roughly 20,000 people that voted the night before TLJ came out nation wide.

Yeah that Cinemascore isn't the most perfect barometer but Rotten Tomatoes user score is a complete joke.

 

[thecapn]

I'm not a Wars guy (I haven't seen TLJ yet. Yes, I know this is sacrilegious, and I intend to. It's just hard to get to the movies with a 9 month old at home), but I'm a Trekkie, so I get the general idea...

Captain Kirk was my hero from the time I was a little kid. And he died what is probably one of the most meaningless, unheroic movie deaths of all time in Star Trek: Generations. His last words? "Oh My." WTF?!

Does that mean I don't like the character anymore? That he still isn't a hero to me? No. Did it suck? Sure. But it doesn't change the rest of the character's arc.

Look, I don't know what happens to Luke in this one. I'm expecting, based on what people are saying,

Spoiler

that he either becomes a bad guy or someone so unlike Luke that its almost painful to watch.

But even if that's true, that doesn't change watching him blow up the Death Star or learn the Force from Yoda or fight Vader on Bespin, right?

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

The 92% is a critics score I was referring to.

Critics are terrified of Disney's reach, and for good reason.

 

[Jagjaguwar]

I get not liking the movie for various reasons, I don’t think it’s a perfect film and there’s aspects I would have done differently, but... a Trojan Horse? Really?

What protects against Trojan Horses? Tinfoil hats?

As for the question, no, the franchise and associated merchandise aren’t going to suffer financially. Maybe we’ll see a step back, but things will still trend upwards for the foreseeable future.

 

[budafett]

Obi-wan is a good teacher? LOL