Wolf Predator Legendary Scale Figure

[INFECDEAD]

CM was not open edition right?

Edition size of 1000 but I would say a generous max of 700 were made.

 

[gagaliya]

Looks like they are pricing out their most loyal fans from their premium products, veering away from their 'Limited Edition' roots while venturing in to mass production 'Open Edition' products that will be available for years to come.

no **** kidding, i want to know who in sideshow made this decision, want names! WTF...

Price out almost all your fans/customers who have been following this for years, then make it an open edition that spit in the face of what made sideshow successful. ,,!,, ss and your legendary fake scale figures.

Sad part is if they just made it a normal maquette with an ex + es, and $1500 price point, it would be selling like hot cakes. That's why i am so pissed, been waiting forever for this only to get an open edition with no ex and cost $2k.

 

[greygoose]

Legendary Selling Failure.

Another legendary quote from you Sir.

 

[toystales]

2 years from now, we will be looking back at good old year 2012 when LSF figures were only 2k in price.

We all know the price point for this will be coming in at around 2k based on Darth Maul and Wolverine. Yet for some unknown reasons, some chose to be optimistic and hope for a 1k to 1.5k price point for Wolf. And now that Wolf is proven to be 2k, everybody got pissed. Seriously, we don't have to buy this if we feel it's too expensive or whatever reasons. It's a want, not a need and Sideshow has every right to price their products any way they want.

We just have to manage our own collecting budget and needs. I am buying this figure even though I think it's expensive. But I justify the purchase by cutting off a whole load of other figures which I would have bought to go for this instead. We don't have to buy everything that Sideshow produces and I believe Sideshow certainly does not expect us to buy everything their factory churns out.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

2 years from now, we will be looking back at good old year 2012 when LSF figures were only 2k in price.

Well 2 years from now Maul LSF, Wolvie LSF and Wolf LSF will still be available for their original price of $2,000 directly from the Sideshow website, so there won't be much looking back : P

Maybe since these are available for years down the line they are priced for 2050 inflation.............

 

[Hollywood]

I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the direction that Sideshow has been taking on their products/ price points.

Don't get me wrong this is a great looking piece, but the price point is way out of line. No limited edition, no electronics of any type, not a true scale, and we all know the paint apps will NOT look like this if you are judging their Predator quality control.

Had this been made 6 years ago in limited edition format, I think that there may have been a winner at $899 or even $1,000. But $2,000 for this........no way! This is at best a $799 statue in line with the Alien Big Chap, and the Aliens maquette.

I will pass on this one.

 

[occulum]

quite hilarious to see some people complain that the "price point is too high and nobody will buy this" and then right behind that mention this piece has an "open edition for MASS production".. ...

 

[VS1976]

I would have loved to get this but the price IMO is not right especially given the fact it is only 31" tall. Regardless if this is an open ES or not, that doesn't deter me from getting any piece. If this is a 1/3 scale ($2k) and SSC has released a 1/5 scale at $300 I wonder what a 1/4 could have been? I really was hoping this would not cost more then $1500 because I would without hestitation order it.

 

[Avenger]

Maybe they will realise this and take a turn towards their roots again sometime. Hopefully, it won't be too late.

Nope. They never, ever do. It's a 3-fold process.

Companies like this, start producing stuff from the same love of the subject matter as their collector customers. It's like a partnership at that point, and everybody benefits.

As the company see success, they start to push production while scaling back production times and costs (i.e. quality control) in order to boost the bottom line. They'll tell themselves this benefits everyone like before, because they can do more pieces, and more aggressively detailed pieces. But, since they scaled back production times and costs (i.e. quality control), these added details cause varied results, and increased returns depending on the factories/time of year (Chinese new year) etc.

Eventually, a company like this begins to think they know better than their customer, and that's when their point of decline makes it on the radar. They make decisions unilaterally now, cut communication and honesty with their fan base, and focus hard on the bottom line. Quality control is secondary to production costs, and the company starts to be willing to release periodic failures in production (think Rogue PF), on the grounds they either believe or financially must recoup expenses on those willing to keep it, and address those who complain on a one to one basis.

SSC's good customer service has helped temper the effects, but at the end of the day, the product is what counts. Even if this figure turns out incredible, it may start to bubble and flake or peel. And it may not. It's the gamble we take when buying SSC stuff these days. For me, I've been bitten too many times to pay $2k for this absolutely stunning sculpt in a wacky scale, that will almost certainly suffer from some sort of issue. I can live with that on lower priced stuff, but $2k is more than I can personally justify.

 

[sprig0701]

Should've known this was going to go for 2K. The reasoning that 1:5 sold for this, and 1:3 sold for that shouldn't have given any indication this was going to be anything less than that. They sell 1:1 statues for 5K+, and they are passing this off as 1:2, which there's no way this thing is that big (unless that is a giant, mutated apple in that pic). Obviously people are paying that much for it or they wouldn't be doing these LSF line at this price point. There are collectorse outside of the nitpickers on here complaining every detail to death.

And no, I'm not getting it, and the price isn't the big deterrent for me. Right now with 3 kids and a dog I'm not getting a $2,000 statue that could easily break, otherwise I'd greatly consider it. My problem with these is the quality of the paint apps coming from SSC recently. It seems ever since they've started this open ES the quality is lacking greatly in that department. I would be hesitant about spending 2K on a quality sculpt with a Hasbro paint job.

Good luck to the guys taking the plunge on these. It's getting harder and harder in this hobby as it grows more mainstream with all the QC issues, and getting out of the 1:6 figure and maquette or PF price range into these LSF line price range is becoming more of a gamble anymore.

 

[sprig0701]

Good points Avenger. That's pretty much what's happening to McFarlane toys. They were great at first and I especially loved the Sports Pick lines. It was like having 3D football, baseball, hockey cards. Then as more customers started coming in, they dumped the lines that didn't sell as well (which were the lines that brought them the noteriety to go mainstream to begin with), and on the SPs they just used the same bodies over and over again and the paint apps looked like grade schoolers had taken over. That company ____ on the loyal fans that got them to where they were and didn't give two ____s about it. Now SSC isn't doing the extremes that McF did, but it seems they're trying to do too much with too little and the end product is suffering.

 

[Bizzitty]

The LSF line is way out of my price range but they are all cool as hell!! perhaps one day I'll have the kinda dough to plunk down on these bad boyz....but no time in the near future unless I win the lottery...

 

[Furious1]

Nope. They never, ever do. It's a 3-fold process.

Companies like this, start producing stuff from the same love of the subject matter as their collector customers. It's like a partnership at that point, and everybody benefits.

As the company see success, they start to push production while scaling back production times and costs (i.e. quality control) in order to boost the bottom line. They'll tell themselves this benefits everyone like before, because they can do more pieces, and more aggressively detailed pieces. But, since they scaled back production times and costs (i.e. quality control), these added details cause varied results, and increased returns depending on the factories/time of year (Chinese new year) etc.

Eventually, a company like this begins to think they know better than their customer, and that's when their point of decline makes it on the radar. They make decisions unilaterally now, cut communication and honesty with their fan base, and focus hard on the bottom line. Quality control is secondary to production costs, and the company starts to be willing to release periodic failures in production (think Rogue PF), on the grounds they either believe or financially must recoup expenses on those willing to keep it, and address those who complain on a one to one basis.

SSC's good customer service has helped temper the effects, but at the end of the day, the product is what counts. Even if this figure turns out incredible, it may start to bubble and flake or peel. And it may not. It's the gamble we take when buying SSC stuff these days. For me, I've been bitten too many times to pay $2k for this absolutely stunning sculpt in a wacky scale, that will almost certainly suffer from some sort of issue. I can live with that on lower priced stuff, but $2k is more than I can personally justify.

Couldnt have said it better myself. I deal with this same issue in the business I work for, and it is a constant balancing act. One thing that I will add is open edition sizes are good for no one, as it completely eliminates the exclusivity that some paying $2K on a collectable wants and needs to have to justify the investment. Because of this SS will likely see decreased sales for the piece...they are better off setting a very low ES.

 

[nicky1]

I gonna order 1 because i am a big fan and a true fan never skip a statue like this one

 

[joeprox]

2 years from now, we will be looking back at good old year 2012 when LSF figures were only 2k in price.

Well 2 years from now Maul LSF, Wolvie LSF and Wolf LSF will still be available for their original price of $2,000 directly from the Sideshow website, so there won't be much looking back : P

Maybe since these are available for years down the line they are priced for 2050 inflation.............

It is a open edition. one example is 1:2 Scale T-800 Endoskeleton Replica is still available. I saw couple on ebay below retail price the last one i saw is $1700 free shipping same as Iron Man LSF.

 

[joeprox]

I gonna order 1 because i am a big fan and a true fan never skip a statue like this one

 

[nicky1]

Jealous??
Why i am a freak by the way

 

[Sithlord1975]

I think this thing looks totally amazing. Awesome piece and scale and detail! Love the Alien being crushed on the base lol

 

[greygoose]

Jealous??
Why i am a freak by the way

Not jealous but 2k to some people is the difference between whether you watch your children eat or you're able to afford to eat with them.

 

[Gates70]

Why does everyone keep acting as if the CM Predator is up for preorder and your gonna get it for 2k. I won't sell my CM predator for less than 3k. Sideshow got to eat too, buy the LSF if you want this if not move on to the next statue.

Poor babies, they suffer so much ...selling a 1/4 scale statue for 3 times what it's worth. This 1/3 scale thing is just BS. I've read a lot of places where people say they saw it in person and is 1/4 scale, not 1/3. Judging by that apple, they are right. If no one can see that they are just taking advantage of Pred fans, then I don't know what to say. If this "LSF" branding didn't exist, people would just be laughing at this pricing for what is a 1/4 scale maquette.