Wolverine Legendary scale figure??!!!

[attom44]

Looking at these, it hits home to me just how off the musculature is on the LSFs arms. This stuck out at me upon seeing the first pics from SDCC '12, and nothing has changed. For as much of this piece that is so righteous and awe-inspiring, the muscle construction in the arms is a big .
I suppose if it bothers me that much, when all else I love about it unreservedly, I could just try to sculpt new arms. The gloves are separate, so it would only be one clean simple piece that needs to be addressed. Just a bit disappointing that it's yet one more thing from a SS product that I feel a need to fix. I would have thought, with this being shown at the biggest Con in this country, there would have been at least a few artists who would have walked by and schooled them on what isn't kosher, anatomically, with this one. But I guess not.

For me these both look nothing like what I envision Wolverine to look like.. they are anatomically nice, but they are just that.. too lean and too thin.. they lack the short stocky powerful look... to each his own...thanks for your thoughts though.. Opinions are just that.. we all like something different. I really like what the gore group has done with this sculpt.

 

[averone]

For me these both look nothing like what I envision Wolverine to look like.. they are anatomically nice, but they are just that.. too lean and too thin.. they lack the short stocky powerful look... to each his own...thanks for your thoughts though.. Opinions are just that.. we all like something different. I really like what the gore group has done with this sculpt.

I agree
It's a comic sculpt and not based on real life body sculpt
Also, the last time I was at a gym, I was looking at Arnold's big biceps and his got the same egg shaped look in the arm area

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Here is a close up pic of the Wolverine LSF arm musculature. I'm in agreement that this LSF is based on a comic rendition of his body type and so the exaggerated look of the bicep/tricep fits in perfectly for me and is just how I imagined him to look like...

 

[Mose Harper]

my problem is the direction in which the bicep is bulging/pointing (down and in) which is awkward/if not impossible, when the forearm and fist are inclined more outwardly and away. The forearm and fist are actually behaving opposite to what they should in this scenario. It's a matter of degrees making it look less natural. Pivot the bicep more outward a bit, or twist the fist more inward and the arm structure will look more correct- despite the absurd size of the muscles themselves.

I agree that there is a place for 'attitude over accuracy', especially in the realm of cartooning. But attitude needs to be informed by fact otherwise it is just amateurish nonsense (see: Rob Liefield). Also, this regard for attitude at the expense of accuracy is more of virtue when the overwhelming nature of the enterprise isn't concerned with mimicking real life. The thrust of this piece is "wow! It looks so real!" and it does- except for this one aspect.

 

[BobaNerd]

my problem is the direction in which the bicep is bulging/pointing (down and in) which is awkward/if not impossible, when the forearm and fist are inclined more outwardly and away. The forearm and fist are actually behaving opposite to what they should in this scenario. It's a matter of degrees making it look less natural. Pivot the bicep more outward a bit, or twist the fist more inward and the arm structure will look more correct- despite the absurd size of the muscles themselves.

I agree that there is a place for 'attitude over accuracy', especially in the realm of cartooning. But attitude needs to be informed by fact otherwise it is just amateurish nonsense (see: Rob Liefield). Also, this regard for attitude at the expense of accuracy is more of virtue when the overwhelming nature of the enterprise isn't concerned with mimicking real life. The thrust of this piece is "wow! It looks so real!" and it does- except for this one aspect.

LMAO! You're looking way too hard, man. You should build rocket ships.

Steven

 

[Mose Harper]

Unfortunately you don't grow as an artist without being able to assess other people's work and identify the areas where it can be improved.
It's usually a lot easier than being able to do that with your own work, but at least it kickstarts your critical faculties.

 

[Spidey976]

Unfortunately you don't grow as an artist without being able to assess other people's work and identify the areas where it can be improved.
It's usually a lot easier than being able to do that with your own work, but at least it kickstarts your critical faculties.

Damn ... Once you see it it can't be unseen...

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Yeah guys ... There IS an issue with the bicep and forearm muscles like Mose is talking about. What he is trying to say is that you can't have the centerline of the bicep point down and into the body ... And the centerline of the inner forearm turned so far out... Not unless your elbow is broken... They are aligned.

I could do an overlay, but there isn't much point.... It shouldn't affect the enjoyment of those who own it. Unless they are anatomy hounds too. So in the end sit back and enjoy.

Mose

Spoiler

you are right dude, but no reason to go over it and over it... People will just get testy

 

[Mose Harper]

Spidey, you are correct, sir. Wise words to live by.

Hope no one was too offended. FWIW, I have no plans to cancel my order. Still looking forward to getting it.

 

[ambasah]

It is an excellent observation. It would not stop me from buying it, but hopefully it is corrected if they do a brown version.

 

[averone]

I'm offended!!
Lol

Ok no offense, SS Group have a very unique artistic minds that's for sure!

 

[comicbookguy]

I guess now people can leave rob liefeld alone right? Whoever that sculpted this LSF might be self taught as well?

 

[azurepred]

It is an excellent observation. It would not stop me from buying it, but hopefully it is corrected if they do a brown version.

No doubt they will prolly just use the same cast, change the cloth and paint and bank hella money. I have no problem as long as they don't include the heads we didn't get with this.

 

[Tbolt]

No doubt they will prolly just use the same cast, change the cloth and paint and bank hella money. I have no problem as long as they don't include the heads we didn't get with this.

You know if he had a sleeve, pretty sure that bicep would look fine under fabric (like GL). Really is the only aspect you can quibble about. I just prefer other Wolvie costumes to this one.

 

[Mose Harper]

You know if he had a sleeve, pretty sure that bicep would look fine under fabric (like GL). Really is the only aspect you can quibble about.

It is indeed the only aspect I can see quibbling about with this sculpt from all the angles I've seen. Otherwise it is still quite a knockout.
I do have to wonder with so many people involved in producing it, how no one else could have pointed this out before it was cast. My old life drawing instructor would have this immediately and ripped this up and down mercilessly over this one point.

As far as the brown costume goes- this is still quite a ways away obviously, but in trying to envision how they would do it, I'm gonna guess the brown on the torso area would have to be sculpted. Otherwise I'm not seeing how fabric would work staying attached over the ball of the shoulder. Glue for the fabric isn't a good option so it would have to be something rigid. And if you are going to do that, you may as well do the trunks the same too so there is some consistency in the entire trunk of the figure. I wonder if this is why we haven't seen the brown costume show up as a PF yet.

 

[Snadinator]

Manfred Hoeberl

Lou Ferrigno

His palms appear pronated. I don't see the big issue. Wolverine should be jacked.

 

[BurningRage]

It is indeed the only aspect I can see quibbling about with this sculpt from all the angles I've seen. Otherwise it is still quite a knockout.
I do have to wonder with so many people involved in producing it, how no one else could have pointed this out before it was cast. My old life drawing instructor would have this immediately and ripped this up and down mercilessly over this one point.

As far as the brown costume goes- this is still quite a ways away obviously, but in trying to envision how they would do it, I'm gonna guess the brown on the torso area would have to be sculpted. Otherwise I'm not seeing how fabric would work staying attached over the ball of the shoulder. Glue for the fabric isn't a good option so it would have to be something rigid. And if you are going to do that, you may as well do the trunks the same too so there is some consistency in the entire trunk of the figure. I wonder if this is why we haven't seen the brown costume show up as a PF yet.

I think a brown costume version of this will have cloth all over and repainted gloves, boots and mask.

 

[Spidey976]

Manfred Hoeberl

Lou Ferrigno

His palms appear pronated. I don't see the big issue. Wolverine should be jacked.

It isn't a jacked issue ... More a things don't bend that way issue... The pics you posted have the forearms turned more inline with the center of the bicep, but the fig doesn't. However, I honestly think it is one of those issues that it was probably done on purpose to heighten the angle and intensity, and it serves no point to go over and over it as people will just get testy.

 

[Snadinator]

I meant to say the palms seems suppinated from the pics. Not pronated. Again, I am not seeing an issue unless the pics are just not showing the right angle. Either way this is some serious nitpicking.

 

[Irvy]

Wolverine's muscles are wrong. Cancelled.

 

[INFECDEAD]

Just admit you either can't afford it or it's too pricey. Whining over a muscle on a piece of art and using it to justify your decision to not to purchase it is weak. It's like hating on the statue of David cos the proportions are off.