Wonder Woman - June 2, 2017

[jye4ever]

The WW movie I would've wrote:

Since the amazonians don't require sperm they embark on a mission to free all human women from male dominated slavery.

WW castrates 2.2 billion men and enslaves them.

Then as the human women are celebrating their victory over men it is revealed that Ares is really WW in disguise and she enslaves all the human females to be leashed pets for the amazonians.

The movie ends with WW laughing at peckerless Steve Trevor.

 

[crows]

The WW movie I would've wrote:

Since the amazonians don't require sperm they embark on a mission to free all human women from male dominated slavery.

WW castrates 2.2 billion men and enslaves them.

Then as the human women are celebrating their victory over men it is revealed that Ares is really WW in disguise and she enslaves all the human females to be leashed pets for the amazonians.

The movie ends with WW laughing at peckerless Steve Trevor.

 

[GasparZizou]

Should be seeing this in half an hour

 

[jye4ever]

Be prepared to experience power.

Unlimited power!!!

 

[RIDDICK]

Should be seeing this in half an hour

 

[GasparZizou]

I'm stuffing my pants with a sock in case I feel my fragile masculinity threatened.

 

[crows]

I'm stuffing my pants with a sock in case I feel my fragile masculinity threatened.

just avoid eye contact or else you could be accused of stare rape

 

[amvmm]

Pretty damn good movie!

 

[abake]

Not surprising. I questioned the Super Saiyan scene and you stated that I don't understand romantic love. Everyone's understanding is flawed but yours.

Ok, I wasn't going to go into it, but since you ask, here it goes.
My issues with the reviewer's understanding of fascism, history and the role of the US in both wars is as follows:

1. Fascism wasn't an issue during WWI. Fascism, as invented by Mussolini in Italy during the 20's and copied/evolved by Hitler into National-Socialism in Germany only had a role during WWII. So... no, the US did not save Europe from Fascism twice.
2. The notion of the US single-handedly saving Europe in both wars (as the reviewer implies) is iffy, at best. While the American effort in both wars cannot be overstated, it is also true that the US intervention in WWI was hampered by the lack of experience of its generals and troops, which led to very high casualties against the Central Powers, thus reducing its effectiveness militarily. And when looking at WWII, while the American support in both materiel and men was tremendous, it is disingenuous at best to ignore the fact that the Nazi military machine was tied up, and eventually ground down, in the eastern front fighting against the Soviet Army.

I mean in no way to belittle or disrespect the amazing achievements and support of the US in both wars, but clearly you can see that what the reviewer says and implies is completely wrong in one instance, and questionable in the second.

What does this have to do in this discussion about the WW movie? Nothing!
But you seem intent on calling me out, so I thought I'd take the time to answer.

Now, back to our wonderful discussion about just how much butt Gal Gadot kicks as WW!

 

[GasparZizou]

Saw it.

Wonder Woman - 6.5/10 Met the higher end of my expectations.

All around weak acting from Gal Gadot and weaker action, but everything else was good, humor was natural, some jokes didn't land, supporting characters were good, David Thewlis and Chris Pine were my favorites.

No, it's not better than BvS, not by a long shot, not in story, not in cinematography, not in action, not in score, nothing, nada, it's more feelgood, which some, less discerning, may have confused with better quality, it isn't.

I'd say this is a CA:TFA in WWI, no better and no worse really, maybe a bit more substance than CA.

Ares was ****ing cool though, probably will get a figure of him, it was such a good decision to cast someone with a kind face.

I can see this being a better movie had they picked a better lead, if it had better action, and slightly better direction.

Most action was terrible, some action scenes started to look pretty good and they were completely ruined by the abuse of slow mo, you could tell they were trying to pull off a 300 but they failed.

Gadot was inconsistent but all around weak, in the part she was playing a fish out of water and the comedy bits, she was decent, in the parts that required her to flex those emotions she was bad.

It is pretty feelgood, they did nail WW as much as they are far away from a classic Superman.

So what was the twist Jye? Was it the "god killer" thing? I hope that wasn't it I saw that coming since they announced she was gonna be the daughter of Zeus, it's in the n52 comics

Oh, yeah, this doesn't deserve the 90 something on RT... Shocker, but oh well, worse movies have gotten better scores and vice-versa.

 

[loki2371]

So I finally saw this tonight, and I must admit it was a very good movie, not great or game changing or any kind of 2nd coming as the media would like to imply, but a well made movie... Does not deserve 98 and 96 ratings. Even at 93 it's still a little high. This should be in the upper 80's B+ range, as I'd give it at best an 8/10. The theater I was at was an AMC, one of the busiest in my state as my friend works there and is upper management, had only maybe 30 - 40 people. It was IMAX 3d, and the theater wasn't even 1/4 filled.. There was plenty of things I didn't like, but the good outweighed the bad. Lots of little dumb things that made no sense and just made me shake my head.

Gal Gadot's performance was acceptable. She was one of the weakest actors in the movie, but not enough to take away from enjoying the movie. Chris Pine far outshined her, and I'm not even a Chris Pine fan. The CGI was distracting at times, especially the ending showdown with Ares. Way too much slowmo, and there is absolutely no way that Snyder didn't have his hand in that. It screams his style. And since she (Patty Jenkins) has no style since she has never directed a movie like this, either she copied him & the other DCEU movies to a tee, or he had a lot of input.

I won't get into a full review and need to post it as a spoiler, or post all my thoughts as there is more than enough on here already. Although I am surprised that other's haven't mentioned some of the things I found odd or lacking.

 

[loki2371]

Saw it.



Ares was ****ing cool though, probably will get a figure of him, it was such a good decision to cast someone with a kind face.

I can see this being a better movie had they picked a better lead, if it had better action, and slightly better direction.

Most action was terrible, some action scenes started to look pretty good and they were completely ruined by the abuse of slow mo, you could tell they were trying to pull off a 300 but they failed.

Gadot was inconsistent but all around weak, in the part she was playing a fish out of water and the comedy bits, she was decent, in the parts that required her to flex those emotions she was bad.

It is pretty feelgood, they did nail WW as much as they are far away from a classic Superman.

Oh, yeah, this doesn't deserve the 90 something on RT... Shocker, but oh well, worse movies have gotten better scores and vice-versa.

I agree.. was writing mine as you post this.

 

[GasparZizou]

Gadot's an odd pretty duck.

Most of the time I could not buy her performance, but then she smiled and I was "yeah ok, it's fine ".

 

[EVILFACE]

cliff notes, you two hate girls.

 

[jye4ever]

 

[Darth Snoopy]

@ EF

 

[GasparZizou]

Right on cue evilface.

It's just that none of the amazons were very good, best female performance there was Etta Candy.

 

[jye4ever]

Saw it.



Ares was ****ing cool though, probably will get a figure of him, it was such a good decision to cast someone with a kind face.

I can see this being a better movie had they picked a better lead, if it had better action, and slightly better direction.

Most action was terrible, some action scenes started to look pretty good and they were completely ruined by the abuse of slow mo, you could tell they were trying to pull off a 300 but they failed.

Gadot was inconsistent but all around weak, in the part she was playing a fish out of water and the comedy bits, she was decent, in the parts that required her to flex those emotions she was bad.

It is pretty feelgood, they did nail WW as much as they are far away from a classic Superman.

So what was the twist Jye? Was it the "god killer" thing? I hope that wasn't it I saw that coming since they announced she was gonna be the daughter of Zeus, it's in the n52 comics

Oh, yeah, this doesn't deserve the 90 something on RT... Shocker, but oh well, worse movies have gotten better scores and vice-versa.

Pretty spot on but the movie does work at those superficial levels you mentioned, they tried to make Gadot be charming like Reeve but only difference is that Reeve was much better at his craft, much better. But it was enough to make her likeable.

I do think the simple feel good aspects of it will make this movie hold up to repeat viewings though, become like a favorite go to comfort food movie in the vast selection of superhero movies so in that regard maybe it did accomplish its own goal of being remembered like STM, maybe that simplistic feel good is what's driving that RT score.

I did not like how Ares looked in the climax only in the flashback.

In the climax he reminded me of Mako from Conan the Barbarian!



or this lol



Regarding the secret it was that the

Spoiler

old fart on the "good" side of the war was Ares and not the evil general from the "bad" side of the war.

Get it, all white men of power no matter on what side of the conflict are war mongering evil greedy bastards who have no problem sending (brainwashing?) common men to their deaths while the men of power are at home eating their lobster and cavier.

The ole President Roosevelt could've stopped the Pearl Harbor attack but the US needed a reason to join the war so sorry american soldiers in Hawaii you need to lay down your lives for the greater good, so sorry.

Hmm, maybe this movie isn't that simplistic after all.

But I digress and will yield the floor to Kara for a final say he's our resident historian lol.

 

[GasparZizou]

Oh but I knew the thing about Ares, it was even announced by the geek jouralism outlets as a non spoiler

"The dude from Harry Potter is playig Ares"

 

[jye4ever]

Well then my friend you truly suck.

Go back to your russian handlers.