Wonder Woman - June 2, 2017

[snakeeyes171]

Saw WW over the weekend and was disappointed. Opening came off as a fan-made YouTube film of Diana as a young child, and the rest was crude and cheesy. I understand that women would love to cherish this moment but if I were a staunch feminist, I'd be upset that WW came across as juvenile, naive and dimwitted. The nail in the coffin was when

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she displayed little emotion over her aunt's death yet went super saiyan over Chris Pine's death - a person she knew for a few days?

It was her cherry popper, god she was like a teen child losing her first love

 

[Mr. Green]

Say what you nay sayer want, this movie is a success for DC. Long live DC!!!!!

 

[Robopredinator]

Say what you nay sayer want, this movie is a success for DC. Long live DC!!!!!

I've got no horse in the race. I could not care less about the DC Vs. Marvel rivalry. I just want to see good movies - wherever they come from.

 

[Mr. Green]

No matter, it is a successful movie. Next comic movie to look forward to is probably be Spider-Man: Homecoming then Thor, Ragnarok.

 

[Mr. Green]

Oh, Justice League too, of course, of course, lol.

 

[Sachiel]

I were a staunch feminist, I'd be upset that WW came across as juvenile, naive and dimwitted.

You just described most feminists.

 

[Robopredinator]

You just described most feminists.

Hence why they love this WW.

 

[guyver1]

Was watching BVS the other day..did they really think WW and Aquaman were Meta Humans

 

[Mr. Green]

No, more likely Lex Luther did.

 

[guyver1]

No, more likely Lex Luther did.

True, but the files classified her as a Meta

Funny how the nazis really knew the truth

 

[RIDDICK]

Funny how the nazis really knew the truth

What nazis?

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Saw WW over the weekend and was disappointed. Opening came off as a fan-made YouTube film of Diana as a young child, and the rest was crude and cheesy. I understand that women would love to cherish this moment but if I were a staunch feminist, I'd be upset that WW came across as juvenile, naive and dimwitted. The nail in the coffin was when

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she displayed little emotion over her aunt's death yet went super saiyan over Chris Pine's death - a person she knew for a few days?

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I thought Diana showed a good amount of emotion over General Antiope's death. Steve Trevor's death upset her so much because she was in love with him and vice versa.

IMO WW wasn't juvenile or dimwitted but she was naive when she arrived in England because the only world she knew was Themyscira.

Funny how the nazis really knew the truth

I don't recall that the Germans knew that WW was a meta-human.

 

[abake]

Regarding the war aspects of WW.

I didn't see anything more graphic than TFA, if anything TFA had soldiers being disintegrated by lasers and a soldier fall thru a spinning blade leaving a huge blood spray behind.

WW had a few soldiers get hit with arrows from the amazonian battle but that was about it, there wasn't any blood though.

Regarding the war "feeling" my favorite still remains the Star Spangled Man musical scene from TFA,

I did like Trevors commandos slightly better than the Howling commandos from TFA though so there's that lol.

I was actually thinking about the way the war was handled in WW, and I think they did a fantastic job of conveying the horrors of war without having to show violence and gore.
When Diana/WW is walking to the front with Trevor's troops and passes all the wounded, maimed and broken men getting back from the front is a much stronger and brutal reminder of what war is than seeing people get blown away.
It's a powerful moment when, not being in the thick of the battle, she realises just what this war does to men. There are two other moments that are quite powerful as well, without having to resort to explosions and blood: when she passes the horses and cart stuck in the mud and Trevor urges her to move on, when her instinct is to help end that casual brutality towards animals, and when the crying woman begs her for help in the trenches, it's also a great reminder of who actually suffer wars: the civilians.

Those moments, and the way they were handled, are actually "grounded", "gritty", and "dark". And the movie is all the better for it.

 

[jye4ever]

I will also add that saving the town and then that town being wiped out was a good way of showing the harsh reality of a short lived victory.

 

[abake]

Saw WW over the weekend and was disappointed. Opening came off as a fan-made YouTube film of Diana as a young child, and the rest was crude and cheesy. I understand that women would love to cherish this moment but if I were a staunch feminist, I'd be upset that WW came across as juvenile, naive and dimwitted. The nail in the coffin was when

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she displayed little emotion over her aunt's death yet went super saiyan over Chris Pine's death - a person she knew for a few days?

I must've watched a different movie then...
I thought Diana's anguish at

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aunt's death,

she seemed positively devastated by it.
If you're referring to her display of power when

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Trevor dies,

and how much more forceful it is, then I'd say you weren't paying attention to the movie, and you don't really understand romantic love...

Seriously though, at the beginning of the movie Diana doesn't understand or know just how powerful she is, she's still very naive. Also, there's no reason for her to go into full battle mode, as the fight is already over.
And it's not surprising to see a very strong and emotional reaction when

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the first man she's met, who she's fallen in love with, sacrifices himself in a heroic act that summarises for her all that is wonderful about the human race, with all its contradictions.

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Do you really think a young, rather naive woman, who is just discovering romantic love, would be less emotional or less affected

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by the death of her first ever love interest than by death of her old, beloved aunt?

 

[abake]

You just described most feminists.

Oh... who's juvenile, naive and dimwitted now?

 

[jye4ever]

Even if her reaction to her aunt's death passes the mustard by the next scene, just like with Han, her aunt was all but forgotten in the story, Diana was all smiles making small ***** jokes lol

Damn not even an amazonian lesbian funeral.

 

[Wor-Gar]

She wore the woman's headpiece. What more do you want?

 

[abake]

Anyway, talk about Diana's aunt made me think of another aspect of the movie that I thought was great.
I found it amazing (in a cool way) to see two mature women (Nielsen and Wright are both 51) portrayed as strong, sexy and capable. I can imagine the effect that has on mature women all over the world. We as men are used to seeing actors in their 40's, 50's and even 60's portrayed as vital and strong, whereas women can't really go much further beyond 40 usually before being relegated to "mom" roles.
So that was pretty cool IMHO.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I was actually thinking about the way the war was handled in WW, and I think they did a fantastic job of conveying the horrors of war without having to show violence and gore.
When Diana/WW is walking to the front with Trevor's troops and passes all the wounded, maimed and broken men getting back from the front is a much stronger and brutal reminder of what war is than seeing people get blown away.
It's a powerful moment when, not being in the thick of the battle, she realises just what this war does to men. There are two other moments that are quite powerful as well, without having to resort to explosions and blood: when she passes the horses and cart stuck in the mud and Trevor urges her to move on, when her instinct is to help end that casual brutality towards animals, and when the crying woman begs her for help in the trenches, it's also a great reminder of who actually suffer wars: the civilians.

Those moments, and the way they were handled, are actually "grounded", "gritty", and "dark". And the movie is all the better for it.

And that... is why CA:TFA fails.


Maybe the nay-sayers would like this flick more if she just randomly broke into song and dance half way through the movie.