Wonder Woman - June 2, 2017

[Wor-Gar]

I found it amazing (in a cool way) to see two mature women (Nielsen and Wright are both 51) portrayed as strong, sexy and capable.

And subtly as Diana's 'two mothers'.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Maybe the nay-sayers would like this flick more if she just randomly broke into song and dance half way through the movie.

 

[ZaCHw117]

And subtly as Diana's 'two mothers'.

I'd take the milfs over gadot any day tho, you see dem legs when she gets off that horse? gooooooootttttdayyyuuuuuum wor, i SAY GOOTTTDAYUM.

You trying to make my pants shorter today? Wor's already got me sweating thinking of them amazonian queens.


Why is she so ****ing cute?

 

[Wor-Gar]

She's trying to spin like Lynda Carter. I like it.

 

[ZaCHw117]

She can spin, sit, flip, spit, sniff, whatever. I'll watch with intense curiosity.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

You trying to make my pants shorter today? Wor's already got me sweating thinking of them amazonian queens.


Why is she so ****ing cute?

 

[abake]

And subtly as Diana's 'two mothers'.

Yeah, hadn't thought about that.
Doesn't really bother me... if it was something they were aiming for, they did it very well, as it's never a "in your face" type of thing.
In general, the whole "feminist agenda" thing (if there was such to begin with) was handled beautifully, IMHO. I never felt any irritating "holier than thou", "women are better" attitude in any part of the movie.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Yeah, hadn't thought about that.
Doesn't really bother me... if it was something they were aiming for, they did it very well, as it's never a "in your face" type of thing.
In general, the whole "feminist agenda" thing (if there was such to begin with) was handled beautifully, IMHO. I never felt any irritating "holier than thou", "women are better" attitude in any part of the movie.

Same here. All I took away from the movie is that it was fantastic for me.

 

[chewblacca]

Remember when she was in the trenches and she was fully clothed in that dress suit? It would have been cool for her to tear that suit off before going up that ladder. In fact, how did she get those clothes off so quick and easy?

 

[Mr. Green]

She had a large cloak with hoodie(Mr. Green think), so she is ready. She is an amazon in a battle zone. You can bet she is ready, skirt and all.

 

[ironwez20]

Huh. I remember people called her ugly and bony now she is the best thing ever.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Huh. I remember people called her ugly and bony now she is the best thing ever.

Quit listening to loud people.

 

[Robopredinator]

I must've watched a different movie then...

Do you really think a young, rather naive woman, who is just discovering romantic love, would be less emotional or less affected by the death of her first ever love interest than by death of her old, beloved aunt?

No, it sounds like you watched Wonder Woman but probably too drawn into the movie/character/movement that you're incapable of seeing the merits of warranted criticism.

I'm sorry it doesn't seem believable that someone could elicit a stronger reaction to the death of a few-days-old love interest than the death of a family member - who was not only her aunt but her trainer, mentor and another "mother figure" - to me.

 

[loki2371]

Huh. I remember people called her ugly and bony now she is the best thing ever.

I don't remember any one calling her ugly, but she was a little thin. She was a model after all.. She does look better after all her so called preparing, but still not enough muscle tone. Hard to believe she looks the way she does after how much training she claims she did for the role. She is still too thin for Wonder Woman for my taste. I'd rather they went with some athletic gymnast looking person instead, even if they were an unknown. She should be lean but muscular.

But, she still looks 100x better to me than Miller as Flash, Mamoa as Aquaman and whatever guy as Crystal Man in the JL movie..

 

[abake]

No, it sounds like you watched Wonder Woman but probably too drawn into the movie/character/movement that you're incapable of seeing the merits of warranted criticism.

I'm sorry it doesn't seem believable that someone could elicit a stronger reaction to the death of a few-days-old love interest than the death of a family member - who was not only her aunt but her trainer, mentor and another "mother figure" - to me.

Well, there were two points to my rebuttal:
1. That she indeed did have a very strong reaction to the first death (but there was no need to unleash any fighting response as in the second death, because the fighting was over)
2. Regarding her reaction to the second death, again, a naive young woman who loses her first love in the midst of terrible revelations about herself and the nature of mankind...

So I suppose we should just agree to disagree, as I don't see any warranted criticism...


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[jye4ever]

In the wake of Wonder Woman's staggering success at the box office this weekend, word circulated that both Gal Gadot and director Patty Jenkins were signed for the inevitable sequel, and there was much rejoicing.


Turns out, Jenkins' return was not as locked-in as was previously reported. A new post over at The Hollywood Reporter reveals the following:

"While star Gal Gadot has an option in place for Wonder Woman 2 as part of her overall deal to appear in several DC movies, Warner Bros. executives enlisted Jenkins for just one film, a decision that could end up costing the studio millions of dollars if Jenkins' reps drive a hard bargain for her to return."


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Ruh-roh! THR goes on to explain that Warner Bros. executives decided to hold off on negotiating for Jenkins' return until the film's release, preferring to see how it performed with audiences and critics before making any firm decisions about the franchise's future. What's that mean now? Well, as BMD Editorial Director Meredith Borders just put it: "Get that payday, girl."


Given the film's incredible success - with critics, with fans, with just about everyone - it seems all but guaranteed that Jenkins will return for the sequel. Warner Bros. would have to be out of their minds to pass up that opportunity. Our guess is that these negotiations will happen in short order, and that we'll have confirmation on Jenkins' return shortly thereafter.

 

[Robopredinator]

Review came up on Facebook and thought it was interesting.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/17256/some-feminists-are-enraged-wonder-woman-probably-ben-shapiro#

"Let’s begin with the basics: Wonder Woman is a terrific film.

I saw it on opening night with my wife; as a DC Comics fan, Wonder Woman has become one of their three most iconic characters, along with Batman and Superman. She’s a driving force in their new universe, as she should be. The film does an excellent job of laying out her origin story, and it beautifully balances the feminist underpinnings of the character — she comes from a society in which men are disdained and is eminently more powerful than any man she comes across in the non-Themyscira world — with obvious femininity. She’s a true heroine in the film — she fights for the innocent and is willing to kill in order to do so (she’s far harder-core than Batman). She’s a feminist for certain (she scoffs at the notion of a secretary as a sort of modern-form slavery). At the same time, she goes out of her way to coo at babies (yes, feminists, women like babies) and she falls head-over-heels for a heroic man, despite her own statements about men being unnecessary for pleasure. Early in the fim, she tut-tuts the notion of marriage, as does he; by the end of the film, they’re both on board.

Plus, she’s played by the wonderful Gal Gadot, a two-time mother who was pregnant during filming and just happens to be Israeli. She also served in the IDF for two years.

All of this makes her character unpalatable to the harder-core feminists, who base feminism not on equality of rights but on abortion and man-hating and forceful opposition to Western standards of beauty. Here’s Christina Cauterucci at Slate: “To me, whatever chance Wonder Woman had of being some kind of feminist antidote to the overabundance of superhero movies made by and for bros was blown by its prevailing occupation with the titular heroine’s sex appeal.” Cauterucci even implies that Chris Pine’s character quasi-rapes Diana because “her capacity for consent is somewhat blurry,” her never having met a man and all.

Here’s dude feminist Steven Rose at The Guardian: “the film feels obliged to give Pine his own equally heroic story arc. Men might be unnecessary for pleasure, but they’re still essential for big-budget action movies, it seems.”

Plus, Wonder Woman fights against the Germans in World War I. This makes her an emissary of American militarism. On Tuesday, Josephine Livingstone wrote at The New Republic, “Wonder Woman has no use for global history except as grist for American exceptionalism, which animates the storylines of so many heroes in the comic book universe, from Captain America to Superman.” Oh no! We mustn’t teach young ones about the fact that the United States saved Europe from fascism … twice. That would be terrible!

Most feminists seem enthused about the movie overall, it should be said. But the fact that many are ticked should show how out of touch the radical feminist movement has become. The film is great for teenage girls, and while it’s clearly a fantasy — nobody, man or woman, could rush through the bullets of World War I in the way Wonder Woman does, but it’s men who typically do the fighting in war, and for rational reasons — it demonstrates that strong women need not be anti-baby or anti-male.

One of the reasons that the movie went over so big is that its brand of feminism is taken for granted in the West. Sexism is no longer a major issue in American society. It's hard to imagine anyone seriously objecting to a fantasy female character fighting baddies while kissing babies and falling in love with a strong male character in traditional fashion. That's what feminism should be.

But not according to the more militant feminists. Which is why they're so mad. For no reason."

 

[abake]

I have a couple of issues with that guy's understanding of history, fascism and the role of the U.S. in both great wars, but I'll let it be...

 

[crows]

Review came up on Facebook and thought it was interesting.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/17256/some-feminists-are-enraged-wonder-woman-probably-ben-shapiro#

"Let’s begin with the basics: Wonder Woman is a terrific film.

I saw it on opening night with my wife; as a DC Comics fan, Wonder Woman has become one of their three most iconic characters, along with Batman and Superman. She’s a driving force in their new universe, as she should be. The film does an excellent job of laying out her origin story, and it beautifully balances the feminist underpinnings of the character — she comes from a society in which men are disdained and is eminently more powerful than any man she comes across in the non-Themyscira world — with obvious femininity. She’s a true heroine in the film — she fights for the innocent and is willing to kill in order to do so (she’s far harder-core than Batman). She’s a feminist for certain (she scoffs at the notion of a secretary as a sort of modern-form slavery). At the same time, she goes out of her way to coo at babies (yes, feminists, women like babies) and she falls head-over-heels for a heroic man, despite her own statements about men being unnecessary for pleasure. Early in the fim, she tut-tuts the notion of marriage, as does he; by the end of the film, they’re both on board.

Plus, she’s played by the wonderful Gal Gadot, a two-time mother who was pregnant during filming and just happens to be Israeli. She also served in the IDF for two years.

All of this makes her character unpalatable to the harder-core feminists, who base feminism not on equality of rights but on abortion and man-hating and forceful opposition to Western standards of beauty. Here’s Christina Cauterucci at Slate: “To me, whatever chance Wonder Woman had of being some kind of feminist antidote to the overabundance of superhero movies made by and for bros was blown by its prevailing occupation with the titular heroine’s sex appeal.” Cauterucci even implies that Chris Pine’s character quasi-rapes Diana because “her capacity for consent is somewhat blurry,” her never having met a man and all.

Here’s dude feminist Steven Rose at The Guardian: “the film feels obliged to give Pine his own equally heroic story arc. Men might be unnecessary for pleasure, but they’re still essential for big-budget action movies, it seems.”

Plus, Wonder Woman fights against the Germans in World War I. This makes her an emissary of American militarism. On Tuesday, Josephine Livingstone wrote at The New Republic, “Wonder Woman has no use for global history except as grist for American exceptionalism, which animates the storylines of so many heroes in the comic book universe, from Captain America to Superman.” Oh no! We mustn’t teach young ones about the fact that the United States saved Europe from fascism … twice. That would be terrible!

Most feminists seem enthused about the movie overall, it should be said. But the fact that many are ticked should show how out of touch the radical feminist movement has become. The film is great for teenage girls, and while it’s clearly a fantasy — nobody, man or woman, could rush through the bullets of World War I in the way Wonder Woman does, but it’s men who typically do the fighting in war, and for rational reasons — it demonstrates that strong women need not be anti-baby or anti-male.

One of the reasons that the movie went over so big is that its brand of feminism is taken for granted in the West. Sexism is no longer a major issue in American society. It's hard to imagine anyone seriously objecting to a fantasy female character fighting baddies while kissing babies and falling in love with a strong male character in traditional fashion. That's what feminism should be.

But not according to the more militant feminists. Which is why they're so mad. For no reason."

they are never happy with anything

 

[Robopredinator]

I have a couple of issues with that guy's understanding of history, fascism and the role of the U.S. in both great wars, but I'll let it be...

Not surprising. I questioned the Super Saiyan scene and you stated that I don't understand romantic love. Everyone's understanding is flawed but yours.