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[brucecamblzchin]

Youse guys talking about ES again? Cool.

 

[skorpio8]

Youse guys talking about ES again? Cool.

LOL Bruce...till a new statue comes out so , we jump to the other forum, saying we like it or not, whats the ex going to be, whats the ES on this gonna be...same **** different thread

 

[csi]

Making more because it will still sell out may help their bottom line today, but isn't a good trend for the future. Casual buyers don't move the market for $400+ statues. Collectors do. When an item eventually becomes so overproduced it no longer is considered a collectible, that isn't positive. See the 90's. It isn't that way yet, but considering prices are going up $50 every 6 months and edition sizes are rapidly increasing, the writing is on the wall.

So that, is the so what. I know you'll never agree, but this is basic supply/demand economics. The graph on the chart is moving in only one direction.

Still a good statue here. =)

and yet most of the Cover Girls of the DC Universe had edition sizes in the high thousands and when I sold off my collection all of them had gone up in value, some even doubled.

Certainly your opinion, but I would put the Sosa sculpted Kotos up against anything Sideshow is doing. If your a size stickler you'll never see it, but they are seriously well done.

every Koto statue (non plastic) I have bought has had paint issues. Either the paint job sucked, or the paint actually cracked and pealed on the statue. For that reason I stopped buying them, even though they have some really great sculpts.

Well, nowadays we are not "collecting" much of anything. There is no hunt, no sense of urgency to rush and preorder something because these things are no longer super-limited. Collecting should take a bit of effort and when it comes to Sideshow it rarely does. Exclusives are still available for months because of the large edition sizes. No rush. You got weeks or months to place an order.

We can hardly call ourselves "collectors". All we do is go to a website, click a few times and sit and wait for something in about a year (give or take a few months). We are a bunch or guys with enough disposable income to indulge in a few hundred dollars worth of polystone per year and come here to discuss it.

col·lect
1 [kuh-lekt]
verb (used with object)
1. to gather together; assemble: The professor collected the students' exams.
2. to accumulate; make a collection of: to collect stamps.
3. to receive or compel payment of: to collect a bill.
4. to regain control of (oneself or one's thoughts, faculties, composure, or the like): At the news of her promotion, she took a few minutes to collect herself.
5. to call for and take with one: He drove off to collect his guests. They collected their mail.

can't seem to find a definition that states the item collected must be "rare" or in limited supply. Perhaps your personal definition is skewed and as such so is your opinion. Now people can absolutely be into only collecting rare items, and thus not want to "collect" sideshow statues any longer, but rarity is in no way a prerequisite to collecting nor being a collector.

 

[Ondi]

Youse guys talking about ES again? Cool.

Nah I'm just chillin

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Youse guys talking about ES again? Cool.

I'm sitting back and enjoying the comedy that is ES obsession.

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

can't seem to find a definition that states the item collected must be "rare" or in limited supply. Perhaps your personal definition is skewed and as such so is your opinion. Now people can absolutely be into only collecting rare items, and thus not want to "collect" sideshow statues any longer, but rarity is in no way a prerequisite to collecting nor being a collector.

Technically, yes, we are considered collectors.

What I mean is more in the sense of being either hunters or gatherers. One is more satisfying that the other. Sideshow has removed the hunt out of the equation. Now we are more gatherers than anything else.

High ES take some of the fun out of the hobby. That is all I am saying.

 

[Collectorcol]

'Hunter Gatherer' is a term used for searching for food, hardly comparable to collecting polystone

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Technically, yes, we are considered collectors.

"Considered "collectors? I disagree. We are, by definition, collectors.

col·lec·tor
kəˈlektər/
noun

• 1. a person who collects things of a specified type, professionally or as a hobby.

 

[BurningRage]

I'm a Coollector

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I'm sitting back and enjoying the comedy that is ES obsession.

Same here

 

[Ondi]

I'm a Coollector

Well Played! I wish I thought of that

 

[mistermark]

Well, nowadays we are not "collecting" much of anything. There is no hunt, no sense of urgency to rush and preorder something because these things are no longer super-limited. Collecting should take a bit of effort and when it comes to Sideshow it rarely does. Exclusives are still available for months because of the large edition sizes. No rush. You got weeks or months to place an order.

We can hardly call ourselves "collectors". All we do is go to a website, click a few times and sit and wait for something in about a year (give or take a few months). We are a bunch or guys with enough disposable income to indulge in a few hundred dollars worth of polystone per year and come here to discuss it.

I agree with what you said here. I have decided to keep my Supes Ex PF as he is more "rare" lol than the other DC PFs. As for the $1200 I saved by not buying Batman, WW and Catwoman PF, I'm cool with only owning one mega DC piece like Supes. He's timeless, so for me he is the right choice out of all of them. I love the Koto statues as well and in my experience the vibrancy of their paint is awesome so will keep buying those as theyre far less expensive and do similar ES. Sideshow has lost $1200 from me so far, but I'm sure there will be other people to make up for it that buy a piece here or there. I would never pay retail for a statue over ES of 7500 just imo. I'm not sure why they charge 400 when theyre making 10,000 ES. Puts me off of Sideshow a bit. As for WW sculpt, she's great and I will enjoy seeing all your guys pics of her when you have her in hand.

 

[-COI-]

Technically, yes, we are considered collectors.

What I mean is more in the sense of being either hunters or gatherers. One is more satisfying that the other. Sideshow has removed the hunt out of the equation. Now we are more gatherers than anything else.

High ES take some of the fun out of the hobby. That is all I am saying.

There was never much of a hunt required for this hobby, at least as far as licensed pieces go. If you have the money, you can find practically any licensed statue within 30 days, which is not any more of a "hunt" than hitting 'pre-order' on SS's website and waiting a year.

These are "manufactured collectibles" in that they are new items marketed as collectibles from the jump. 500 pieces or 10000, they're not truly rare and never were; they're not locked in collections nor have they been subjected to the ravages of time. The much revered "grails" in this hobby only require cash and an internet collection.

 

[brucecamblzchin]

Agreed, its pretty easy to collect this sort of stuff. Top tier collections involve screen used props, costumes and custom stuff IMO. Thats not to say our stuff isn't cool but its not what lots of people like to call 'high end' IMO.

 

[Bmutha]

There was never much of a hunt required for this hobby, at least as far as licensed pieces go. If you have the money, you can find practically any licensed statue within 30 days, which is not any more of a "hunt" than hitting 'pre-order' on SS's website and waiting a year.

These are "manufactured collectibles" in that they are new items marketed as collectibles from the jump. 500 pieces or 10000, they're not truly rare and never were; they're not locked in collections nor have they been subjected to the ravages of time. The much revered "grails" in this hobby only require cash and an internet collection.

Good post. Agree 100%.

 

[Collectorcol]

Watch 'Hollywood Treasure' for high end, hard to find collectibles. Those guys spend BIG money.
As Bruce said, We're small fry.

 

[csi]

I agree with what you said here. I have decided to keep my Supes Ex PF as he is more "rare" lol than the other DC PFs. As for the $1200 I saved by not buying Batman, WW and Catwoman PF, I'm cool with only owning one mega DC piece like Supes. He's timeless, so for me he is the right choice out of all of them. I love the Koto statues as well and in my experience the vibrancy of their paint is awesome so will keep buying those as theyre far less expensive and do similar ES. Sideshow has lost $1200 from me so far, but I'm sure there will be other people to make up for it that buy a piece here or there. I would never pay retail for a statue over ES of 7500 just imo. I'm not sure why they charge 400 when theyre making 10,000 ES. Puts me off of Sideshow a bit. As for WW sculpt, she's great and I will enjoy seeing all your guys pics of her when you have her in hand.

I'm not sure why they didn't consult with you first before making such a crazy decision

 

[brucecamblzchin]

Watch 'Hollywood Treasure' for high end, hard to find collectibles. Those guys spend BIG money.
As Bruce said, We're small fry.

True dat.

I dig collecting these figs, and making vids and talking nonsense on the Freaks board.

 

[-COI-]

I collect golden age comics in addition to statues. There are so many issues you'll probably never get in any condition, even if you have deep pockets, because they just rarely pop up for sale. And when they do, the competition for them is brutal and you'd better be willing to open up that wallet if you even want to stand a shot. Then there are the legit grails that are not only insanely expensive, but are simply locked tight in collections. The best known copy of Action Comics 1 has been in the hands of a single individual since 1982. Everyone knows who has it, and he's received offers in the millions of dollars and turned them down. This is what the term "grail" needs to be reserved for.

I love this hobby, but there is no equivalent to this and never will be. But we're still pretty fortunate and have collections that the vast majority of the world's population wouldn't be able to assemble. The cool thing about this hobby to me isn't the value or rarity of these things, but seeing everyone's unique collection. No two people have the exact same pieces displayed the exact same way, and that's what makes this a fun and unique way to spend thousands of dollars.

 

[wbeem]

I don't get the complaints. People are more worried about catching a prize than whether or not they enjoy the work of art for their home, office, etc. I buy what I want because I like it, not because it's limited or I had to hunt for it.