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[ShawnDeath]

Koto Fine Art Hulk es was 4000.

Koto Spidey?

 

[ShawnDeath]

I find the steadfast edition size defenders much more entertaining than the complainers. No matter the size they are right there on the front lines claiming shock and awe that the edition size could be millions and still not meet the total demand of the entire population of Earth. I guess from that point of view, people in Vietnam, Sudan, and Greenland will never have their demand met of this Wonder Woman. =(

 

[Snadinator]

3500 for the ex is pretty high. I don't usually give 2 craps about it but the QC is more likely to take a dive on a higher ES. Furthermore, it can also mean more delays. It would suck not to see this before 2016.

 

[BurningRage]

Koto Spidey?

Yeah a statue released two years ago More people collect Sideshow than Koto Fine Art Line.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Koto Spidey?

I think it was 3000

 

[BurningRage]

I think it was 3000

It was 1900. Venom was 3000.

 

[filip629]

It was 1900. Venom was 3000.

Yep. And Koto is still kicking themselves in the a$$ as they see Spidey selling for $500 + in the aftermarket.

 

[Asdf]

Would seem that most comic book collectors are perverts...


Who'd of thought that!

Did you PO? I did, I guess I am a nerd and a pervert.

 

[quadcent]

I'm guessing that this will now come in a couple split shippments........

oh yeah still haven't ordered this one, I will but only when it sells out. As we all know there will be many WL conversions on this one I'm sure

 

[ShawnDeath]

Yeah a statue released two years ago More people collect Sideshow than Koto Fine Art Line.

Venom released pretty recently. Koto typically makes pretty large edition sizes. The fact Sideshow is surpassing some of Koto's runs on just the exclusive alone is pretty remarkable. When you look at the total edition size, they are probably close to Bishoujos now.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Venom released pretty recently. Koto typically makes pretty large edition sizes. The fact Sideshow is surpassing some of Koto's runs on just the exclusive alone is pretty remarkable. When you look at the total edition size, they are probably close to Bishoujos now.

and they still sell out..so what

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I'm guessing that this will now come in a couple split shippments........

oh yeah still haven't ordered this one, I will but only when it sells out. As we all know there will be many WL conversions on this one I'm sure

every DC statue probably will

 

[ShawnDeath]

and they still sell out..so what

Making more because it will still sell out may help their bottom line today, but isn't a good trend for the future. Casual buyers don't move the market for $400+ statues. Collectors do. When an item eventually becomes so overproduced it no longer is considered a collectible, that isn't positive. See the 90's. It isn't that way yet, but considering prices are going up $50 every 6 months and edition sizes are rapidly increasing, the writing is on the wall.

So that, is the so what. I know you'll never agree, but this is basic supply/demand economics. The graph on the chart is moving in only one direction.

Still a good statue here. =)

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Making more because it will still sell out may help their bottom line today, but isn't a good trend for the future. Casual buyers don't move the market for $400+ statues. Collectors do. When an item eventually becomes so overproduced it no longer is considered a collectible, that isn't positive. See the 90's. It isn't that way yet, but considering prices are going up $50 every 6 months and edition sizes are rapidly increasing, the writing is on the wall.

So that, is the so what. I know you'll never agree, but this is basic supply/demand economics. The graph on the chart is moving in only one direction.

Still a good statue here. =)

The problem is that it's called Collecting, not investing. You don't collect to invest. That was the issue with the 90's, which I've spoken about at length. Collectibles do not have to have a intrinsic monetary value attached. People collect stamps, coins, cards, beany babies, crystals, comics, matchbox cars etc.etc. People buying an hoping for monetary value based on the number made will be disappointed in the end. Just as people were who bought the death of Superman 100 copies at a time.

 

[dan350zr]

The problem is that it's called Collecting, not investing. You don't collect to invest. That was the issue with the 90's, which I've spoken about at length. Collectibles do not have to have a intrinsic monetary value attached. People collect stamps, coins, cards, beany babies, crystals, comics, matchbox cars etc.etc. People buying an hoping for monetary value based on the number made will be disappointed in the end. Just as people were who bought the death of Superman 100 copies at a time.

Some people like to collect for the rarity of items, when there's only 500 or so it's rare when they make 10k not so much. So from that perspective I can see where certain collectors might move on to something else. When SS keeps raising their prices you expect more exclusivity not a flooded market. eventually having a statue collection won't be as cool as it once was when all your friends have one also.

Just playing devil's advocate

 

[Collectorcol]

Supply and demand? Yeh Sideshow are raising edition sizes because more people are demanding them.

Non of my friends have one PF never mind a collection

 

[Bill Lehecka]

Supply and demand? Yeh Sideshow are raising edition sizes because more people are demanding them.

Non of my friends have one PF never mind a collection

You have the wrong friends....

 

[Irvy]

Koto lmao no thanks.

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

I find the steadfast edition size defenders much more entertaining than the complainers. No matter the size they are right there on the front lines claiming shock and awe that the edition size could be millions and still not meet the total demand of the entire population of Earth. I guess from that point of view, people in Vietnam, Sudan, and Greenland will never have their demand met of this Wonder Woman. =(

I find this amusing as well.

Here is the thing: We don't have to bash Sideshow to express our dislike of some of their tactics, but to pretend that certain things are okay or just not happening because we like their products is silly. I see some doing the "just buy what you like" reply sometimes. Increased edition sizes increasing is a real issue that affects the hobby particularly when economies of scale applies to pricing (it should be going down....right?). The "population of earth Vs. the ratio of increased number of collectors" logic just doesn't work. I don't see your average person factoring a $400+ comic/movie statue around 3 or 4 times per year in their budget. The hobby grows within a certain nerdy community, but it rarely expands into the mainstream. Yeah, you can catch a glimpse of some of this stuff in an episode of Big Bang Theory, but your average person won't spend money on these things at these prices. Even if that was the case, I feel Sideshow has a greater responsibility to the hobby as the current market leader to protect the collectible aspect of the hobby. That's just me of course.

There are some very nice items that Sideshow is producing, but to call them collectibles sometimes seems a bit of a stretch given recent developments. They are in full profit maximization mode and edition sizes will fall where they will. Ultimately, edition size discussions are pointless for this very same reason.

 

[Destroyous]

High edition sizes are great I think. Allows for everyone to get one. And then for those that want a rare statue then just get a different character like an EX Black Widow.