Nothing broken. Yes the switch out arms are hard to put in and there seems to be a small gap that I can't do anything but push a little harder. But I dont want to brake it so I may sand down the metal.
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Nothing broken. Yes the switch out arms are hard to put in and there seems to be a small gap that I can't do anything but push a little harder. But I dont want to brake it so I may sand down the metal.
Armymedic1980
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Yeah that's the same complaint I've heard with others. I'm getting the exclusive too so hopefully she'll arrive sooner than I'm anticipating. Thanks for your reply.
so your saying you can't comprehend why someone would want their purchases to retain their value in the future? I just recently sold off about half my collection to put a sizable down payment on a house. I didn't buy the statues with the intention of selling them later, but also wasn't stupid enough to blindly throw money at something I thought would be worthless a year later either. I would recommend jumping down from that high horse, but carefully so as not to injure yourself and need to dip into your emergency fund
I don't think that was what he was saying. He was just saying that if you are buying statues so you can have an emergency savings you might be better off investing somewhere else.. Not that these piece should not retain their value but there is no guarantee that they will. And now with the super high ES... One should really not plan on these items being good for emergency funds... So its really best to stay away if that is your goal.
Now I don't know what the collection sold for... But could you have put even more down on your house if the funds were invested in something else?? Oh and just to stress I am not saying you don't invest well or anything like that or questioning how you spend your money... Just making a point.. But like you said you did not buy them with the intention of selling them but you did and made some money back. But would one have more money just collecting interest in the bank or investing in something more valuable?
I get that that is not your point... You feel these pieces should at the very least be worth the amount you put into them.. But the other guy wants them to increase in value... That is nice but not a definite outcome regardless of ES. So if that is why you are getting into this hobby then it's probably better to look elsewhere.
Personally I have never bought any of these hopping to make a profit (though I have).. I am usually happy to just get my money back. I mean are there other mass produced items that people buy that they take out of the package and / or use, that go up in value a year or two after they buy it??? I am sure there are but I can't think of anything in the same realm as these statues.
If I ever HAD to sell... I just hope to make back at least 90% of what I bought them for... If I make more that's great! But will I make enough more to really make a difference.. I mean there are only so many statues with Hulk and Dr. Doom PFs value out there. But when I buy a car or a TV I don't plan on selling them for more or even the same amount that I paid originally... I guess I look at statue collecting the same way.
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Variant huh?
Was thinking of waiting a while and then trying to score a broken/damaged one so that I could customize it closer to a classic costume version
The costume would be relatively easy, but dialing back the crown of the hair and widening the face would be nearly impossible. Would have to just come up with a whole new head sculpt and make a seam at the neck.
But if a variant is coming, I'll just wait and see how much is changed and to what. Worst case is, between the variants and the reg's there will be a tons of these around so finding a slightly damaged one cheap shouldn't be too hard.
Averone- Athena more than holds her own next to SS's WW. Beautiful work! Looking forward to getting my first ARH piece this year.
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I think this is the main point that should be focused on. I get the rebuttal would be that if there were lower ES now then these pieces could be more of an investment...but that's just not going to happen. Everything has changed now. Superheroes are mainstream...being a comic book fan, or one who attends comic cons is seen as cool now. That's not to say that there aren't statues that will jump in value with how fast they sell out; however, those financing their homes with pieces are a rare breed that likely had grail pieces that are from a different time in collecting (and by different time, I mean even a few years ago.)
Sideshow and Hot Toys have only become more popular, and they're jumping all over that popularity by producing enough to keep the masses happy and make a hefty profit. Why would they limit themselves to 500 Wonder Woman EX just so those who purchase them can make a profit down the road?
Like Snoopy and some others here, I purchase what I'll enjoy displaying and looking at and never think about selling them. If they have to be sold in the future, so be it; but that's not a thought in my mind. If I was interested in this Wonder Woman (which is beautiful! I just have to be more selective right now...) then I'd order it and enjoy it. Why would you pass on it just because 9000 or so others have the same piece?
In short, as Josh pointed out in the quote above, current Sideshow statues aren't really something to look at as an investment. It's kind of like coming late to the hockey cards party a decade or two ago. Gretzky's rookie card was worth a lot for those who had it, but it doesn't mean holding on to a mint Sidney Crosby rookie card now will pay off, as the secret is out and they'll be worth less because so many will have them. That may have been a bad analogy, but I think I got across what I was trying to say!
csi
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Because its a way for them to feel superior to others and better about themselves...which is sad...
It can, 90's comics fiasco.
...Comics, DVD's, Video games...car insurance..
Yeah, tossing $20 or so a week at a dvd is just a bit different than tossing $400 at a statue.
He basically said the same thing you did, he hoped he could get his money back if he needed to sell them. I don't see the big deal with that statement. As for your comment about putting the money in savings accounts instead of statues, I think your missing the point entirely. Of course money would better serve is in an account rather than buying things with it, but it's not about that. It's about what we do with the income we deem disposible. It's nice to know if you ever need the money back, or simply want your money back, or even change what you want to collect, you have that option. I agree with people who say "investing" in statues expecting to make money on them is stupid, but hoping what you buy holds its value seems more common sense than anything.
mistermark
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Batman PF isn't even close to being sold out so this still is a niche market. As someone who knows a little about banking, if you flood a market with shares, sooner or later they substantially drop in value and people will stop buying. This is a DC pf but whomever is responsible for making the ES 9500 needs to take a serious course in business and learning the principals behind scarcity. I realize a PF for DC will be a large ES but it should have been capped at 5200 ES like most DC pieces from other companies. For example, if XM ever does a Wonder Woman (and it will happen much sooner than you think) Sideshow's WW will plummet. There will be tons of her sitting on ebay but everyone will be vying for the XM one. Why? Because it's more rare. Making a profit for a company is very important, but keeping your customers happy and loyal and buying direct is even more important. WW PF looks awesome but in many ways I believe Sideshow is shooting themselves in the foot. We shall see I suppose.
csi
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GeneralZodLives
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SS doesn't care if you make money on the secondary market. They want to sell as many of these as they can so that THEY make money.
No it won't.
Collectorcol
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Yeah, I think a course in business will teach anyone how to maximise profit for the business they represent and pays their wage.
Not for the flippers and speculators.
Not for the flippers and speculators.
Collectorcol
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mistermark
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SS doesn't care if you make money on the secondary market. They want to sell as many of these as they can so that THEY make money.
The Ex will sell and make them money of course. But when you are seeing discounted Regs floating around on ebay, that is when people will not buy direct and will search them out for a discount on the aftermarket. Better to go a little leaner on those ES and come up with different and newer sculpts of the same characters imo. WW DID turn out fantastic thought, I won't take that away from Sideshow.
No it won't.
Give it a year before they announce DC. Give it a year...
mistermark
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The Ex will sell and make them money of course. But when you are seeing discounted Regs floating around on ebay, that is when people will not buy direct and will search them out for a discount on the aftermarket. Better to go a little leaner on those ES and come up with different and newer sculpts of the same characters imo. WW DID turn out fantastic thought, I won't take that away from Sideshow.
Give it a year before they announce DC. Give it a year...
brucecamblzchin
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Oooooo an after market/ES debate!
Cool, but everyone knows the bigger ESs are to soak up some(all?) of the after market value right? Like Collectorcol says.
Cool, but everyone knows the bigger ESs are to soak up some(all?) of the after market value right? Like Collectorcol says.
Collectorcol
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Sideshow make their biggest profit on Exclusives sold, and only available, direct.
Most of the Regs will go to retailers across the world at AD price meaning a smaller profit.
I highly doubt they're bothered if they take a year or two to sell out the regs.
Preaching business practice?
I've said it before, I love small Edition Sizes but they are a thing of the past with the TBD thrown out there for a couple of months to judge exactly how many they can sell. Buy what you love and you'll be good
Most of the Regs will go to retailers across the world at AD price meaning a smaller profit.
I highly doubt they're bothered if they take a year or two to sell out the regs.
Preaching business practice?
I've said it before, I love small Edition Sizes but they are a thing of the past with the TBD thrown out there for a couple of months to judge exactly how many they can sell. Buy what you love and you'll be good
traylorc
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I'm just not convinced that SS needs to be concerned about the value of their statues in the secondary market. SS does not derive any direct income from the sale of statues in the secondary market... So why would SS's management be concerned about limiting Edition Size in order to preserve a "higher values" in the secondary market?
Your appear to be making the argument that by limiting edition size, SS customers all over the world would be ecstatic and be inclined to purchase more product from SS. That assertion appears be based on the assumption that the majority of SS' customers care about edition size. I understand that you care about edition size based on your previous posts. IMHO you cannot assume that because you care about edition size, that the majority of SS's customers must care about edition size or it's rarity. After all...if SS honestly believed that by limiting their edition sizes they could sell more product & increase revenues and profits...wouldn't they have done it already??
Lastly...I'm not sure I agree with the assertion that an XM Studios version of WW would somehow cause SS' version to plummet in value. I understand that XM's edition size per product is smaller. But you cannot forget about the impact of how XM prices their products. As you know XM does not sell in the States, so the shipping costs can be considerable for XM products. I am picking up the Iron Man Mark 42 from Simply Toys and the shipping alone is estimated at close to $175 - $200. Some folks may find themselves having to spend $700-$1,000 or more in order to secure a potential XM Wonder Woman. The price could go up if XM elects to implement a similar pricing structure for WW that we see for Magneto, Thanos, or Phoenix. Given the fact that SS's Wonder Woman is retailing for $399...and as you stated...the value of this WW statue is not expected to rise because there will be so many in the market. The end result may be that customers elect to pick up the SS version of Wonder Woman versus XM's because it costs less.
I see the point you are making. It is nice to know that something we buy at this price might maintain it's original value or go up in price.. It's just weird that we expect our statues to do that... Everything else we buy we know will be worth much less or we will even eventually throw away. I don't but a 2000.00 TV keep it in it's box and hope it goes up in value in a year. I have to wait 15 years for a car to become a classic. (Oh I think my Toyota Van will be there soon
) and then it has to be the right make and in good shape.I don't know... these are luxury items and I am happy to be able to afford them. The fact that they keep their value give or take is a bonus. I say buy what you like but like what you buy. Then you can't go wrong
You make a great point about changing what I collect... I would have to be more picky about my collection if I could not sell an item so I could buy another. But like I said.. For now that is a bonus.
Or SSC Wonder Woman would simply keep her value because there would not be enough XM version to go around or it would be too expensive for all of those that want one. So the next best thing for them would be SSC version.
Personally with all the new companies and higher ES flooding the market... With more fans buying these nd hoping they go up in value... Well I see the next 90's comic book overload coming and none of our statues will be worth squat.
