Would you guys like more 1/4 scale comiquettes?

[fuzzylojiks]

I personally see my collection fall into a few category of sizes; There's life-size(1:1), extra large statues(1:2), large statues(1:3), medium statues (1:4 / 1:5), small statues and large figures (1:6), medium figures(1:12) , and small figures (3 3/4th inchers). That's plenty of variation of sizes. The problem with the "medium statue" category is that it's shared by two scales and that splits the roster right in half if you're trying to collect and display a full team. It would have been fine if 1:5 is small enough to be in it's own size category, but IMO it's way too similar to 1:4, except just slightly off... It's like when you see a life-size bust that the head is obviously too small, you can call it (1.8 :1) scale but in the end it's just an off scale...

Take a look at how the scale changes exponentially; every time you split the size in half, the difference gets smaller and smaller. That's why (1:8), (1:9) , (1:10) , (1:11) aren't standard sizes, cause splitting those sizes in halves make too little of a difference to really matter, you would have to skip all the way from (1:6) to (1:12) just to half the height.

(1:5) scale is right at the midpoint of the division where people debate whether it's small enough to be in it's own category, or if it's actually just an off scale to (1:4).



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I agree, keep it to 1/6 and 1/4 scale, there is no need for another whole scale. Then at least the 1/6 can match up with Bowens and the 1/4 can go with the PFs. They actually tried to come up with 1/5 scale to double dip on characters.

 

[IronLungs31]

Well then you should vote yes because MORE 1/4 scale will mix will with your display. Notice there is no 'only' anywhere in this poll.

No, I think that I voted right. If I was a collector that need to collect full teams sets I would have probably voted yes. Since that's not the case with this collector. I see no need to have everything in 1/4 scale, and if just by chance I was a team collector, I would still just have to make adjustments in my collection to make it all work. The main reason that I'm not a completist is, I refuse to buy a statue that I have no emotional attachment or just plain don't like just for the sake of completing a set. To me that makes no sense at all to buy something that you don't like. There are so many displaying ways to over come the slight difference between 1/5 & 1/4 scale issues. That I'll continue to not care about scale issues. I think that if your collection is more character driven opposed team set driven scale really shouldn't matter all that much.

 

[Kibishii]

To me that makes no sense at all to buy something that you don't like. There are so many displaying ways to over come the slight difference between 1/5 & 1/4 scale issues.

I can understand most of your other arguements about character preference and simple liking the statue, however, this one arguement doesn't fit for most collectors. The main problem with 1/5th is that it is just an odd scale and looks 'off' next to 1/6th or 1/4th.

If you don't mind your statues being a consistent scale, that is fine. However, I will continue passing on any 1/5th that Sideshow releases no matter how much I want the character; if Sideshow doesn't want my money, I am sure Hot Toys does.

 

[Mr. Green]

No, I think that I voted right. If I was a collector that need to collect full teams sets I would have probably voted yes. Since that's not the case with this collector. I see no need to have everything in 1/4 scale, and if just by chance I was a team collector, I would still just have to make adjustments in my collection to make it all work. The main reason that I'm not a completist is, I refuse to buy a statue that I have no emotional attachment or just plain don't like just for the sake of completing a set. To me that makes no sense at all to buy something that you don't like. There are so many displaying ways to over come the slight difference between 1/5 & 1/4 scale issues. That I'll continue to not care about scale issues. I think that if your collection is more character driven opposed team set driven scale really shouldn't matter all that much.

Excellent view.

I can understand most of your other arguements about character preference and simple liking the statue, however, this one arguement doesn't fit for most collectors. The main problem with 1/5th is that it is just an odd scale and looks 'off' next to 1/6th or 1/4th.

If you don't mind your statues being a consistent scale, that is fine. However, I will continue passing on any 1/5th that Sideshow releases no matter how much I want the character; if Sideshow doesn't want my money, I am sure Hot Toys does.

You don't have to put it next to 1/6th or 1/4th. Not everyone is doing it. Not every combination is right for everyone. Heck, I have 2 Hulk LSB, one on each side of my Hulk PF. I got my Mighty Muggs next to a Mixed Media 1/4 scale.

If anything, I think those 1/4 or close to 1/4 scale comiquette are more of an oddball. Mystique comiquette looks awesome but placed next to a 1/4 PF, she looks like she's not dressed properly. I do agree, however, that SSC should stick with the same scale, comiquette or PF, instead of deviating.

 

[c11098]

The poll sucks, I can only pick Yes or No? Well I would rather have more 1:5 with gorgeous base than more 1:4 like the Emma PF. (Yes just suppose it is not a PF.)

When you are rating something, it is not just about size, (This is what I said.) just like when you buy a diamond, yes it is 10 carat but it is an industrial used diamond. Then I would rather get a 1 carat diamond being IF, D color and perfect cut.

So does the statue, like the DD, there are tones of statue in the market which capture how DD should be like. But SS's com is the only one I see in the market that could show you the feeling from the print. If it is done as a 1:4, I bet it will cost much much more because of the size. And in that case either we complain it is too expensive or SSC pick another design and give up this.

But as a collector, I would love to display my statue together, it can be either 1:4.5 or 1:4.3 but not some 1:4.3, 1:4.8, 1:5.1 and so on and so.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

No, I think that I voted right. If I was a collector that need to collect full teams sets I would have probably voted yes. Since that's not the case with this collector. I see no need to have everything in 1/4 scale, and if just by chance I was a team collector, I would still just have to make adjustments in my collection to make it all work. The main reason that I'm not a completist is, I refuse to buy a statue that I have no emotional attachment or just plain don't like just for the sake of completing a set. To me that makes no sense at all to buy something that you don't like. There are so many displaying ways to over come the slight difference between 1/5 & 1/4 scale issues. That I'll continue to not care about scale issues. I think that if your collection is more character driven opposed team set driven scale really shouldn't matter all that much.

That still does not explain why you don't want more 1/4 scale comiquettes produced? 1/4 scale comiquettes should fit well in your display.... since you can find a way to fit them in from....

There are so many displaying ways to over come the slight difference between 1/5 & 1/4 scale issues.

...or am I missing something? ;x since you collect both 1/5 and 1/4 why won't you want more 1/4 scale comiquettes?

 

[the Doctor]

I agree, keep it to 1/6 and 1/4 scale, there is no need for another whole scale. Then at least the 1/6 can match up with Bowens and the 1/4 can go with the PFs. They actually tried to come up with 1/5 scale to double dip on characters.

Exactly! Sideshow invented 1/4 scale collectables..no one else was doin it before hand and now 1/5 scale which no won else has done!

very disappointing imo...i'll have to wait for 1/4 products of characters i like which are being released in 1/5 first

 

[Mr. Green]

LOL, you guys wait all you want. I am gonna get whatever I like/want; 1/5 or 1/4 matters little. Silly waiting for 1/4 which could very well be years before you'll see your favorite characters in.

 

[Colossus]

Yes Fuzzy Yes

 

[fuzzylojiks]

LOL, you guys wait all you want. I am gonna get whatever I like/want; 1/5 or 1/4 matters little. Silly waiting for 1/4 which could very well be years before you'll see your favorite characters in.

That still does not seem to be a big argument against making more 1/4 scale comiquettes. You can skip them if you want, why would you oppose to something that your fellow collectors would buy? Granted you may have a mindset in your collection but if a 1/4 scale comiquette comes out, won't that be good for all? You can choose to go either way then and it causes no harm to your cause. Why would you want to NOT have anymore 1/4 scale comiquettes?

 

[Mr. Green]

That still does not seem to be a big argument against making more 1/4 scale comiquettes. You can skip them if you want, why would you oppose to something that your fellow collectors would buy? Granted you may have a mindset in your collection but if a 1/4 scale comiquette comes out, won't that be good for all? You can choose to go either way then and it causes no harm to your cause. Why would you want to NOT have anymore 1/4 scale comiquettes?

There is no real argument. It is what it is and I am ok with it. I try not to follow other collector's views/purchase. I am never good at following. I may or may not agree. And I never said I won't have anymore 1/4 comiquette. I have Spiderman comiquette but I don't see a need for Venom, Carnage, etc. Just that I have no need to buy all that SSC puts out. Usually there's an opposite to alot of things. SSC already make 1/5 Hulk comiquette and I would prefer that SSC make 1/5 Abomination, Thing, Thor, Rhino, etc. So 1/4 Hulk's villians comiquette doesn't make sense. On the other hand, Spiderman comiquette's villians shouldn't be 1/5. Doing so wouldn't make sense. Its too late now. Kinna like I am ok with DD comiquette being 1/5. It seem to match with Elektra comiquette and Bullseye comiquette. Not 100% sure about that they match 1/5 perfectly but hey, nothing is perfect. Tough being an artist.

 

[sillyvader]

I always think that not having the 1/5 type will kill the 'PREMIUM' format ?no?

 

[fuzzylojiks]

On the other hand, Spiderman comiquette's villians shouldn't be 1/5. Doing so wouldn't make sense. Its too late now.

So you do want more 1/4 scale comiquettes of Spidey villains?

 

[Mr. Green]

I always think that not having the 1/5 type will kill the 'PREMIUM' format ?no?

If you're refering to 1/4 comiquette then I would say that it could be in conflicts with 1/4 PF. Probably more people would prefer sculpted instead of fabric/mix-media. But SSC would have to be all in for 1/4 comiquette to have any effects. Just about all PF are known to be 1/4.

So you do want more 1/4 scale comiquettes of Spidey villains?

Both directly yes and indirectly no, LOL. I would prefer 1/4 scale Spider villians comiquette just because Spiderman comiquette is known to be 1/4. But indirectly, I am not gonna buy Spidey's villians since I have other interest; so it doesn't matter in my case.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Both directly yes and indirectly no, LOL. I would prefer 1/4 scale Spider villians just because Spiderman comiquette is known to be 1/4. But indirectly, I am not gonna buy Spidey's villians since I have other interest; so it doesn't matter in my case.

Awww, Spidey villains rock! (especially Rhino)

 

[Mr. Green]

Awww, Spidey villains rock! (especially Rhino)

Yea, who know, I might get Venom, Carnage, or some other villians in the future. Now if they make a Doc Oc on a wall, I might make a definite exceptions. That would be very complicated with those metal tentacles.

 

[Kibishii]

LOL, you guys wait all you want. I am gonna get whatever I like/want; 1/5 or 1/4 matters little. Silly waiting for 1/4 which could very well be years before you'll see your favorite characters in.

Hey, if Sideshow wants to make inconsistent, silly scales then they obviously don't want my money. I am not going to settle and buy my favorite characters in 1/5th scale, period. A 1/5th Colossus displayed next to a 1/4th Wolverine looks like crap.

You don't have to put it next to 1/6th or 1/4th. Not everyone is doing it. Not every combination is right for everyone...I do agree, however, that SSC should stick with the same scale, comiquette or PF, instead of deviating.

Where else am I going to display them? Isn't the whole point of a collection is to display it together? I have two lighted, glass displays in a bedroom set aside for my statues. Again, mixing scales may work for you, but the overwhelming majority of fans like to display them together and themed collections are far superior.

Hopefully you will agree that releasing Sideshow releasing the Cyclops PF, Wolverine PF, Rogue PF, Gambit PF all in 1/4th scale and then releasing several other key X-Men in 1/5th scale at the same time was by-far the biggest failure from an economic standpoint that I can think of. I know for a fact that many board members (myself included) would have ordered Colossus, Psylocke, Nightcrawler, and Angel if they were in 1/4th scale. They lost $1k worth of sales from me alone on that decision and I see them sitting in their warehouse for awhile.

very disappointing imo...i'll have to wait for 1/4 products of characters i like which are being released in 1/5 first

I strongly believe this was a way for Sideshow to try and "double-dip" on characters to get people to buy the same character in multiple scales. I hope it bites them in the ass and they start listening to their fans...they said that they were going to start posting more WIP items and then listening to fan feedback, but all they have done is post WIP and then ignore us (Colossus robot head as a quick examples).

I thought I would add, go check out Sideshow's "Marvel Polystone Statue" list of 1/5th...other than the Hulk and Punisher, they are all sitting there available and in-stock.

 

[Mr. Green]

Hey, if Sideshow wants to make inconsistent, silly scales then they obviously don't want my money. I am not going to settle and buy my favorite characters in 1/5th scale, period. A 1/5th Colossus displayed next to a 1/4th Wolverine looks like crap.


Where else am I going to display them? Isn't the whole point of a collection is to display it together? I have two lighted, glass displays in a bedroom set aside for my statues. Again, mixing scales may work for you, but the overwhelming majority of fans like to display them together and themed collections are far superior.

Hopefully you will agree that releasing Sideshow releasing the Cyclops PF, Wolverine PF, Rogue PF, Gambit PF all in 1/4th scale and then releasing several other key X-Men in 1/5th scale at the same time was by-far the biggest failure from an economic standpoint that I can think of. I know for a fact that many board members (myself included) would have ordered Colossus, Psylocke, Nightcrawler, and Angel if they were in 1/4th scale. They lost $1k worth of sales from me alone on that decision and I see them sitting in their warehouse for awhile.


I strongly believe this was a way for Sideshow to try and "double-dip" on characters to get people to buy the same character in multiple scales. I hope it bites them in the ass and they start listening to their fans...they said that they were going to start posting more WIP items and then listening to fan feedback, but all they have done is post WIP and then ignore us (Colossus robot head as a quick examples).

1/5th Colossus is probably in a different style than that Wolverine anyway. And I heard the artist/sculptor mentioned that the Wolverine is meant as 1/4.

I have a one theme of collecting Hulk: Hulk PF(1/4), She-Hulk(1/4), 2x Hulk LSB(1/2), She-Hulk comiquette(1/5), Hulk comiquette(1/5), Hulkbuster comiquette(1/5), Dynamic Force Hulk(1/6 or 1/7), Super Hero Squad Hulks(1/10? LOL), Minimates Hulks(1/12?). So if I collect only 1/4, I am gonna missed alot of these, and to mentioned other manufactor like Bowen, Koto, etc. But hey, people can wait for these 1/4 if they like....not me.

You can say double dipping with comiquette 1/5 and PF 1/4. I am fine with it, but its a little more complicated than that. Not everyone into pajama PF. I like em to some minimal extent. SSC differentiate em by using different scale and style as well. Example: modern X-Men comiquette vs Jim Lee X-Men PF.

I thought I would add, go check out Sideshow's "Marvel Polystone Statue" list of 1/5th...other than the Hulk and Punisher, they are all sitting there available and in-stock.

SSC will make money on em. As long as they sell it like by 6-12 months(estimates). SSC don't need to sell it that fast. Be nice if they do but these boxes don't take a whole lot of storage. Even by then they'll make it even and not at a loss, especially when these products are made dirt cheap from China. We can complain, me included, but SSC will make $$$ one way or another. If they can afford to keep rolling these items with less n less quality, they're making $$$. But quality is another issue

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

SSC will make money on em. As long as they sell it like by 6-12 months(estimates). SSC don't need to sell it that fast. Be nice if they do but these boxes don't take a whole lot of storage. Even by then they'll make it even and not at a loss, especially when these products are made dirt cheap from China. We can complain, me included, but SSC will make $$$ one way or another. If they can afford to keep rolling these items with less n less quality, they're making $$$. But quality is another issue

It's hard to make money on product that is sitting in a warehouse and not moving. If they don't sell well initially, it's hard to claim that in 6-12 months those items will all magically gain steam and start flying off warehouse shelves.

 

[Mr. Green]

It's hard to make money on product that is sitting in a warehouse and not moving. If they don't sell well initially, it's hard to claim that in 6-12 months those items will all magically gain steam and start flying off warehouse shelves.

If SSC isn't making $$$, they'll stop but it doesn't look like it. They're making $$$ even when the economy isn't doing well. They're even making $$$ by selling for other manufacture.

We can complain about scale and boycott all we want. But I wonder how much of an audience here and maybe other forum to make much of an impact. And we don't truely know how SSC works unless we have a spy in the company, LOL.