X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016

[crows]

Ultron was pretentious too but not as much as this
but Ultron was also just build up for not much

I guess the pretentious feeling also comes from the way it is marketed, and interviews and the trailers. if you keep telling me and keep telling me and keep telling me
Batman will have this incredible, amazing fight with superman and you keep telling me Wonder woman has this amazing role in the movie and then you keep showing wonder woman in all the trailers

And then the movie is just nothing but 2 hours of stuff and a fight that lasts 4 minutes, and wonder woman is barely a cameo until the end fight
that's a little pretentious too, BVS was guilty of being pretentious as well, not as bad as this, but up to par with Ultron.

i mean, AGE OF ULTRON or x Men APOCALYPSE or batman VERSUS Superman
more like, Weekend of Ultron,
Mutant missionary wont shut up about the end of the world
and superman has minor conflict with Superman and it is resolved quickly

 

[GasparZizou]

I didn't think this movie felt arrogant, this movie felt little at all to me, no personality.

BvS was arrogant, arrogant and proud of taking itself so seriously that it's almost an opera, but it does something with that arrogance.

This one doesn't, despite the immense scope of this movie, it feels like nothing, the little friendly fight in the airport of CW was charged with more tension and personality than this doomsday level event, and they weren't even trying to kill each other.

and superman has minor conflict with Superman and it is resolved quickly

 

[crows]

i havent watch Civil war but yeah I felt a little arrogance from some of the interviews with that as well

Like I said, the movie is arrogant not just because of the build up inside the movie but because of the hype from the interviews.

 

[bboy]

this movie was anything but pretentious. A straight up comic book come to life. Ive read a bunch of x-men comics recently because I was having a x-men marathon, and this is exactly how it goes. There are a few major characters and the rest just look cool and have a cool mutant power and that's it. I even just read like 6 issues and all psylocke did was stand in the background. I don't get what the big deal is, why are people complaining about the small roles of some mutants? I do agree the 4 hourseman weren't the biggest threat, but they were a huge threat to the new x-men.

Just read that you were talking about the interviews in particular, didn watch the alot of the x-men ones but the ones with the kids were hilarious (they are genuinely funny kids) the civil war interviews were definitely pretentious though hahah,(maybe its my sheer boredom at mcu that's really speaking) but come-on all the interviews with the olsen chick about her "character" shes been in two movies and I have no idea what her powers are. Same goes for the other side people. All the spiderman talk.....geeez

 

[Khev]

pretentious because they make you think Psylocke will have a bigger role, Pretentious because they cared more about getting her suit right than they cared about giving her any lines. they pretend she will be more important in the trailers than she was... and even in its own movie they introduce her like she will be important,

Pretentious because apocalypse calls storm his goddess and Angel his...what did he say? when he fixed his wings? that scene was pretty bad, he is building everyone up so much and then in the final fight no one was really that "incredible"
the people behind the movie keep bragging about how Jubilee is a big deal and shes like a cameo. pretentious because they tease wolverine but that scene amounted to nothing, it was not necessary.

I guess the movie is arrogant in the sense that it felt like someone building up a boxing match for weeks and weeks, telling you how it will be the greatest boxing match and promising you this battle of titans
and then you see the fight and its over in like 20 seconds and the guy saying he would deliver this amazing incredible fight goes down like a wimp after 3 punches.

thats what this movie felt like it was doing. Apocalypse is bragging and bragging and talking about new world and bla bla bla, preaching and preaching, just preaching non stop
then at the end hes just another mutant, all he did was just walk around and preach, he might as well be a missionary preaching a gospel. Magneto was the one causing all the havoc.

It's true that the movie failed to live up to everything mentioned above. But it's also true that it was still entertaining enough in spite of that fact. Not great, and a lot to easily criticize, but still entertaining.

 

[bboy]

I was surprised how much I didn't give a **** about the four horseman. Which yes is a huge problem for the movie but honestly magneto's whole story and jean and the professor, and cyclops, and nightcrawler all the stole the show and did more than the trailers led on

 

[rushmore223]

pretentious because they make you think Psylocke will have a bigger role, Pretentious because they cared more about getting her suit right than they cared about giving her any lines. they pretend she will be more important in the trailers than she was... and even in its own movie they introduce her like she will be important,

Pretentious because apocalypse calls storm his goddess and Angel his...what did he say? when he fixed his wings? that scene was pretty bad, he is building everyone up so much and then in the final fight no one was really that "incredible"
the people behind the movie keep bragging about how Jubilee is a big deal and shes like a cameo. pretentious because they tease wolverine but that scene amounted to nothing, it was not necessary.

I guess the movie is arrogant in the sense that it felt like someone building up a boxing match for weeks and weeks, telling you how it will be the greatest boxing match and promising you this battle of titans
and then you see the fight and its over in like 20 seconds and the guy saying he would deliver this amazing incredible fight goes down like a wimp after 3 punches.

thats what this movie felt like it was doing. Apocalypse is bragging and bragging and talking about new world and bla bla bla, preaching and preaching, just preaching non stop
then at the end hes just another mutant, all he did was just walk around and preach, he might as well be a missionary preaching a gospel. Magneto was the one causing all the havoc.

Think you might be better served by a different word. I know pretentious sounds great to say as a slam, but doesn't really fit this situation.

 

[jye4ever]

So far it comes down to Zemo's plan and Luthor's plan for best of the year so far.

Honestly, Apoc's plan doesn't have the finesse of those 2.

Then when you break down Zemo's and Luthor's plan to their defining moment, you have:

Zemo showing Stark how his parents were brutally murdered.

and

Luthor's jar of pee scene.

Both were spectacular.

Apoc was a short angry guy that liked to scream.

XMA is a movie that ultimately fails, especially when compared to DOFP and FC, yet it still delivered some very cool moments that left an impact on me, go figure.

 

[rushmore223]

When I think of a pretentious film, I think of a film like Terrence Malick's Tree of Life. I Remember watching that and thinking I was going to see a Brad Pitt Family Drama, I remember the big bang, cells dividing, dinosaurs etc... Seriously? Did I need to go through all that to see Brad Pitty have a ****** childhood?

Now, to me, XMA aspired to be a summer popcorn movie that entertained the audience, and lo and behold, the audience I was in was entertained. Though admittedly, some of the audience members seemed to think the Ghostbusters trailer was funny, so go figure.

 

[bboy]

Yeah I understand how his plan falls flat. But as a villain *****people up and having a great and interesting history (probably one of the more creative things Ive seen in recent superhero movies) and forcing the best and favorite x-men to come together worked for me. I don't think a villain needs to have some elaborate plan to be a good villain. His ideology fit the basic premise of all the x movies. Also as a side note: people totally loathe the look of him (I get its a little goofy) but ill be damned if he wasnt a way more visually interesting villain than literally every other villain weve seen recently.

 

[jye4ever]

In the visual department bboy is right.

Apoc looked better than Zemo, Luthor, Doomsday and Generic Deadpool Bad Guy.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Apoc was a short angry guy that liked to scream.

 

[jye4ever]

What's odd is that every complaint against XMA makes perfect sense to me YET certain scenes (action, dialogue, music) resonated with me enough that I walked out with positive feelings.

XMA will be watched at home again.

 

[rushmore223]

What's odd is that every complaint against XMA makes perfect sense to me YET certain scenes (action, dialogue, music) resonated with me enough that I walked out with positive feelings.

XMA will be watched at home again.

As we all know, taste isn't really something you can argue. I guess it just comes down to whether one persons complaint is a deal breaker to you, for me it wasnt. I didn't expect a lot so I came out happily surprised. I don't think it was great, but it was good enough that I will buy it when it comes to video.

 

[crows]

It's true that the movie failed to live up to everything mentioned above. But it's also true that it was still entertaining enough in spite of that fact. Not great, and a lot to easily criticize, but still entertaining.

thats fair, thats a good point.

force awakens followed a new hope too close BUT it was fun and entertaining. it felt a little bit like a remake but it was great.
so force awakens is the perfect example, a hell of a ride

but with this movie, the first hour literally nothing really important happens at the school or with apocalypse. it got very anti climactic for a while. theres a lot that could have been cut at that first hour, tighten the movie and have apocalypse crash against the x men earlier and fight twice.

i went to see this just hoping to be entertained and hoping to have a fun time and it was not fun at all. felt like homework, i even checked my phone a couple of times, i even came here

this movie made me wish i had a remote control at the theater and that i could fast forward the movie a bunch

 

[rushmore223]

So you just went and bring up BvS without having seen it, just to defend this movie....

You're not even worthy of BvS.

I'm worthy.

The movie looked terrible to me and I don't reward bad looking films with my hard earned money. When you do that, studios think they can just mass produce ****** movies and audiences will go regardless. I vote with my dollar, so to speak. When it comes to redbox, I'll spend $1 to see it, instead of the $25 - $35 I would have spent taking my family.

That's one thing I just don't understand on this site, there are so many people who gripe about a film, how bad it looks and that it shouldn't have been made, but then they go to the theater and give the studio that made it their money.

 

[rushmore223]

thats fair, thats a good point.

force awakens followed a new hope too close BUT it was fun and entertaining. it felt a little bit like a remake but it was great.
so force awakens is the perfect example, a hell of a ride

but with this movie, the first hour literally nothing really important happens at the school or with apocalypse. it got very anti climactic for a while. theres a lot that could have been cut at that first hour, tighten the movie and have apocalypse crash against the x men earlier and fight twice.

i went to see this just hoping to be entertained and hoping to have a fun time and it was not fun at all. felt like homework, i even checked my phone a couple of times, i even came here

this movie made me wish i had a remote control at the theater and that i could fast forward the movie a bunch

Not to be word police again, but technically, the climax comes at the end, so something in the beginning and middle can't be anti-climactic.

 

[jye4ever]

Don't has a sad guys.

 

[rushmore223]

Don't has a sad guys.

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That looks awful! Is that supposed to be Apocalypse?

 

[crows]

Think you might be better served by a different word. I know pretentious sounds great to say as a slam, but doesn't really fit this situation.

When I think of a pretentious film, I think of a film like Terrence Malick's Tree of Life. I Remember watching that and thinking I was going to see a Brad Pitt Family Drama, I remember the big bang, cells dividing, dinosaurs etc... Seriously? Did I need to go through all that to see Brad Pitty have a ****** childhood?

Now, to me, XMA aspired to be a summer popcorn movie that entertained the audience, and lo and behold, the audience I was in was entertained. Though admittedly, some of the audience members seemed to think the Ghostbusters trailer was funny, so go figure.

Pretentious - Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, Talent, culture, than is actually Posessed.

well,im just saying

this movie pretented to be epic, destruction of epic proportions: it wasnt, the destruction felt hollow. it just wasnt iconic, just as hollow as ultron or bvs
this movie pretended to have epic characters: the horsemen were silent henchmen that did nothing until the end. it acted like the characters had greater importance, when they were just as regular as any other mutants they have fought.
this movie did, this movie did that, it pretended to be more epic than it really was. it pretended Apocalypse was a bigger threat than he really was,

that shot of Storm coming down from the sky and Psylocke cutting down the car, that was pretentious, they were not as powerful as the movie pretented it was,

I mean, this whole speech was pretentious as hell (oh the most incredible most scary most amazing mutant ever, he will end the world! hes too powerful, hes the first)



even the music is all ominous, Apocalypse should have been scarier then

that scene to me is pretentious