X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016

[rushmore223]

Regardless, Issac was all wrong for the role. Seriously, Apoc is seven feet tall and Issac is 5'7'' You don't get Al Pacino to play The Terminator, no matter how good he is as an actor.

See, this is why it's great not reading the comics, I go in fresh and open minded.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

So what? Camera tricks, CGI, whatever, do you think Hobbits were really 2 feet tall? He could've done a decent Apoc IF they wanted him to.

Yeah there were better choices for the role but the role didn't fail because of his performance, it failed for EVERYTHING but.

But they didn't make him look bigger...except for the ridiculous Herman Munster boots His face was all wrong too with his large nose when Apoc always has a tiny nose. The truth is, Apoc could have been played by almost anyone, because Issac didn't do anything interesting or unique. He was covered in bad makeup and even his voice was altered, so they could have picked any large actor and they would have done the same, but at least a larger "actor" will look physically intimidating and imposing.

 

[Rulk]

"Only the strong shall survive"sounds pretty pretentious

 

[GasparZizou]

Again, the word pretentious, what was so pretentious about this movie? Nobody ever answers me when I ask this question.

I wouldn't use the word pretentious because this movie doesn't pretend to be anything, it just is, and it's lazy about everything that is.

All the god talk was barren and sterile, they managed to make divinity not food for thought.

Maybe I'm being too hard on Singer, but it doesn't even feel like a Singer movie, either he didn't care and just wanted the check, or this is a studio movie. But his heart wasn't in this.

 

[rushmore223]

I just wish XMA wasn't so damn pretentious. All right guys, gotta run, be back tomorrow.

Damn You Khev!

 

[GasparZizou]

But they didn't make him look bigger...except for the ridiculous Herman Munster boots His face was all wrong too with his large nose when Apoc always has a tiny nose. The truth is, Apoc could have been played by almost anyone, because Issac didn't do anything interesting or unique. He was covered in bad makeup and even his voice was altered, so they could have picked any large actor and they would have done the same, but at least a larger "actor" will look physically intimidating and imposing.

That's what I'm saying, they COULD have made a decent Apoc, IF they wanted, but they didn't, they gave Oscar Isaac a ****** costume and ****** dialog in a ****** story, and the dude committed to it, like a ****ing pro, with even some good delivery in there when the dialogue permitted it.

 

[rushmore223]

As a public service to my fellow freaks, I thought I'd leave the definition of the word Pretentious here, do with it what you will...

Pretentious - Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, Talent, culture, than is actually Posessed.

Now if the Director stated that this was a great work of art that shall stand testament to the ages, that would be pretentious.


You might even be correct by saying "Many of Rushmore223's posts are Pretentious"




It's a often misused term, like Irony or ironic. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.

 

[jye4ever]

I just wish XMA wasn't so damn pretentious. All right guys, gotta run, be back tomorrow.

I wouldn't use the word pretentious because this movie doesn't pretend to be anything, it just is, and it's lazy about everything that is.

All the god talk was barren and sterile, they managed to make divinity not food for thought.

Maybe I'm being too hard on Singer, but it doesn't even feel like a Singer movie, either he didn't care and just wanted the check, or this is a studio movie. But his heart wasn't in this.

The divinity stuff was rather shallow.

This movie really doesn't take much to go into the negative zone.

But the good in it entertained me enough to give it a pass.

 

[Khev]

Damn You Khev!

As a public service to my fellow freaks, I thought I'd leave the definition of the word Pretentious here, do with it what you will...

Pretentious - Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, Talent, culture, than is actually Posessed.

Now if the Director stated that this was a great work of art that shall stand testament to the ages, that would be pretentious.

"Apocalypse will be the most disappointing summer blockbuster since the silent era." --Brian Singer

I dunno, kind of a bold statement if you ask me.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

That's what I'm saying, they COULD have made a decent Apoc, IF they wanted, but they didn't, they gave Oscar Isaac a ****** costume and ****** dialog in a ****** story, and the dude committed to it, like a ****ing pro, with even some good delivery in there when the dialogue permitted it.

That's all hypothetical though. The reality is they knew they weren't going to do any camera tricks, so why get the smallest actor in Hollywood since Tom Cruise to play the largest X MEN villain? Because he can act? Like I said, there are plenty of great actors that are physically wrong for certain roles no matter how talented they might be. I'm not sure Issac would have been convincing even with good lines and a good script. I've seen actors give good performances even when their characters aren't great and the films aren't good. Issac probably did the best he could, but I doubt he'd been that much better if the script was well written. I can see him whispering and yelling his lines if the script was good.

 

[jye4ever]

"Apocalypse will be the most disappointing summer blockbuster since the silent era." --Brian Singer

I dunno, kind of a bold statement if you ask me.

 

[rushmore223]

"Apocalypse will be the most disappointing summer blockbuster since the silent era." --Brian Singer

I dunno, kind of a bold statement if you ask me.

That's just Truth in advertising, at least for some of you.

 

[jye4ever]

That's all hypothetical though. The reality is they knew they weren't going to do any camera tricks, so why get the smallest actor in Hollywood since Tom Cruise to play the largest X MEN villain? Because he can act? Like I said, there are plenty of great actors that are physically wrong for certain roles no matter how talented they might be. I'm not sure Issac would have been convincing even with good lines and a good script. I've seen actors give good performances even when their characters aren't great and the film aren't good. Issac probably did the best he could, but I doubt he'd been that much better if the script was better. I can see him whispering and yelling his lines if the script was good.

I get what you're saying, would've you accepted him full cgi like Ultron?

 

[GasparZizou]

That's all hypothetical though. The reality is they knew they weren't going to do any camera tricks, so why get the smallest actor in Hollywood since Tom Cruise to play the largest X MEN villain? Because he can act? Like I said, there are plenty of great actors that are physically wrong for certain roles no matter how talented they might be. I'm not sure Issac would have been convincing even with good lines and a good script. I've seen actors give good performances even when their characters aren't great and the film aren't good. Issac probably did the best he could, but I doubt he'd been that much better if the script was better.

It's not hypothetical, we know they can do impressive mind bending stuff, they could've gone full CGI Thanos if they wanted, but they didn't, they must have known the dude didn't look menacing at all and didn't care. So it ended up hurting Isaac, even though he tried.

I will not put an ounce of the blame on Isaac.

 

[Khev]

That's just Truth in advertising, at least for some of you.

Nah, definitely not the most disappointing movie. I didn't really have high expectations to begin with. It's a serviceable conclusion to the First Class trilogy it just suffers greatly in comparison to the vastly superior MCU, but as karamazov often says, "that's nothing new."

At least the characters were awake for the action this time (even if the audience wasn't.)

 

[GasparZizou]

Man, the sad part is that I went in with low expectations, I expected nothing from this.

Hell, if they didn't invite me I wouldn't have even seen it in theaters, that's how out of my radar this movie was... And I was still disappointed

 

[pturtle]

I don’t see how this movie is pretentious at all, its extremely straightforward and theres not even much emphasis on Apocalypse as a character. I thought for about 2/3 of the movie the character worked, theres a lot of build up for the character and Singer just took the most generic route with him as possible in the end. I always found Apocalypse to be a lame character in the comics, and Singer’s version was actually pretty interesting, but he really needed to focus on Apoc being a cult-like leader. The only time I felt he truly embodied that was when he recruited Magneto. I agree with Gaspar though, Singer’s heart wasn’t into this, or maybe there was some studio meddling. This Apocalypse could have been great, and I don’t think being bigger or having more powers was the problem, its just a lack of backstory and characterization that hurt him. I would have loved seeing him abuse his power like a cult leader, coercing his mutants into recruitment, reaping all the benefits from their work, even sleeping with either Storm or Psylock would have been a perfect way of showing off his cult-like leader mentality.

 

[rushmore223]

Man, the sad part is that I went in with low expectations, I expected nothing from this.

Hell, if they didn't invite me I wouldn't have even seen it in theaters, that's how out of my radar this movie was... And I was still disappointed

Hey wait! Weren't you singing the praises of BVS?!

Ok, makes sense now!

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I get what you're saying, would've you accepted him full cgi like Ultron?

Few CGI characters work for me. Maybe a mixture of motion capture CGI with an actor kind of like Davy Jones in Pirates 2 or Gollum. They looked pretty real, but I prefer an actor with some makeup and a costume. I've seen a few Apoc cosplay and they look pretty good considering their budget. I get why they chose Issac, but if they knew that they were going to hide him in layers of makeup and alter his voice, then get a large actor like Tom Noonan . He's a very good actor and he's huge...skinny, but with the suit, you can't tell. He even has a natural creepy voice.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I will not put an ounce of the blame on Isaac.

I won't blame Issac, but I'll blame the studio for picking him because he's a popular good actor.