X-Men: Days of Future Past

[slipknotpredator]

Ok, so how the hell is he standing?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

^ Bold. Cant wait to see how he regains his ability to walk.

For Marvel Studios, the designs of their characters are somewhat easy to make for a movie. Thor, Hulk, Iron Man work because their suit are pretty much who they are. But when it comes to having a suit and giving a reason for it, things get tough. There really isn’t a reason for Magneto, Wolverine, Cyclops etc… to have a suit other than to please comic fans.

I think when it comes to “explanation suits” Marvel studios isn’t that great either. The Avengers Captain America suit didn’t look good to me at all. He kind of looked like someone who would be hired at a birthday party. Hawkeye and Black Widow’s suits were meh as well. Comic accuracy or not.

I like how the X-Men have their mission clothes but most of the time they dress normal.

 

[RIDDICK]

Ok, so how the hell is he standing?

Pushing the temple do wonders for your appearance.

 

[Snake Plissken]

It's got to be just for the photo since he's cripple in all the trailers. But even that doesn't make sense.

 

[karamazov80]

For Marvel Studios, the designs of their characters are somewhat easy to make for a movie. Thor, Hulk, Iron Man work because their suit are pretty much who they are. But when it comes to having a suit and giving a reason for it, things get tough. There really isn’t a reason for Magneto, Wolverine, Cyclops etc… to have a suit other than to please comic fans.

I think when it comes to “explanation suits” Marvel studios isn’t that great either. The Avengers Captain America suit didn’t look good to me at all. He kind of looked like someone who would be hired at a birthday party. Hawkeye and Black Widow’s suits were meh as well. Comic accuracy or not.

I don't think they need to explain it at all. In the comics, they don't jump through hoops trying to explain stuff like that (usually). We accept that Thor is a god from Asgard, but are we really going to quibble about the justification for wearing one outfit over another? Do they try very hard to explain the silly outfits the X-Men wear in the other films? If they did, it's an afterthought, like the joke about how the stupid leather get-ups from X1 were better than yellow spandex. I'm pretty sure the audience will just accept it if they look good. I thought the Wolverine in the Super Powered Beat Down against Batman was pretty great, and they didn't have a professional film type budget.

 

[pturtle]

I don't think they need to explain it at all. In the comics, they don't jump through hoops trying to explain stuff like that (usually). We accept that Thor is a god from Asgard, but are we really going to quibble about the justification for wearing one outfit over another? Do they try very hard to explain the silly outfits the X-Men wear in the other films? If they did, it's an afterthought, like the joke about how the stupid leather get-ups from X1 were better than yellow spandex. I'm pretty sure the audience will just accept it if they look good. I thought the Wolverine in the Super Powered Beat Down against Batman was pretty great, and they didn't have a professional film type budget.

I don’t know, I feel like they have their mission suits, but it would just be a little weird if everyone has their own extremely different unique suit. Why would Hugh Jackman wear a mask but not the rest of the team and stuff like that. I understand comic readers want to see these suits translated well into the films, but a lot of comics aren’t well written, and some reasons for certain appearances are just plain idiotic. So, for the general audience who don’t know a thing about the comics, it can look extremely stupid to them, why some characters would be dressed like clowns.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

They had them for a united look and for missions, that was the reason. Magneto was given a reason for his helmet. First Class gave them a reason about G-Force or something.

Batman Begins gave us a reason
Captain America gave us a reason
Spider-Man gave us a reason.

They need a reason to dress up.

 

[karamazov80]

But, right now, they're all dressed like clowns anyway. Is anyone looking at those Empire magazines and thinking, "man, that Quicksilver and Toad look amazing!"? And I think a casual audience will be attracted to a comic accurate Wolvie just like they're attracted to a comic accurate Superman, or something close to it. The Superman outfit doesn't really have a good justification. "It's the suit of his alien heritage" is a justification after the fact. The cape is silly, it's blue, red, and yellow, but if Superman just had his all black and silver outfit he wore returning from the dead, no one would like it.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

That's Quicksilvers fashion sense it's not a costume, Toad and Havok are in Military fatigues. Magneto is the only one without a real reason.

Superman costume reason was weak, but they did give a reason. It is required, especially for Wolverine who doesn't hide his identity with a mask and doesn't need the protection

 

[karamazov80]

Spider-Man gave us a reason.

The reason they gave is to protect his identity. That doesn't explain why he dresses around in a colorful, red and blue spandex suit. The audience just goes with it, because that's how Spider-Man is supposed to look. It would make more sense if he was all black--no white or silver eyes or Spider--because then he could be stealthier. But the justifications are post-hoc rationalizations. If it's really necessary, then any given writer could spend 5 minutes thinking one up for the various X-Men:

-Wolverine wants to hide his identity from the Japanese folks on his trail or the Canadian government, or wants to better protect Mariko, or whatever

But I really don't think 95% of people watching these movies will care. If the rest of the film is written well enough, then folks won't have to dwell on stuff like that. Admittedly, that first hurdle may not be easy to overcome.

 

[Snake Plissken]

It would be enough if they gave every character a modern/realistic outfit but with subtle hints from their comic book appearance and not make every outfit look almost identical.

They kinda did that with Wolverine's outfit, by giving it the pointed stripes on it.

 

[pturtle]

But, right now, they're all dressed like clowns anyway. Is anyone looking at those Empire magazines and thinking, "man, that Quicksilver and Toad look amazing!"? And I think a casual audience will be attracted to a comic accurate Wolvie just like they're attracted to a comic accurate Superman, or something close to it. The Superman outfit doesn't really have a good justification. "It's the suit of his alien heritage" is a justification after the fact. The cape is silly, it's blue, red, and yellow, but if Superman just had his all black and silver outfit he wore returning from the dead, no one would like it.

Quicksilver seems to be dressed like a teenager from the 70’s and all the extra things like the goggles and utilities seem like they will have a reason, and aren’t just for show.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

The reason they gave is to protect his identity. That doesn't explain why he dresses around in a colorful, red and blue spandex suit. The audience just goes with it, because that's how Spider-Man is supposed to look. It would make more sense if he was all black--no white or silver eyes or Spider--because then he could be stealthier. But the justifications are post-hoc rationalizations. If it's really necessary, then any given writer could spend 5 minutes thinking one up for the various X-Men:

-Wolverine wants to hide his identity from the Japanese folks on his trail or the Canadian government, or wants to better protect Mariko, or whatever

But I really don't think 95% of people watching these movies will care. If the rest of the film is written well enough, then folks won't have to dwell on stuff like that. Admittedly, that first hurdle may not be easy to overcome.

True about Spider-Man, there wasn't a specific need for the body-sock. But it was shown that he took inspiration from where he got his powers and the colours of his wrestling attire, and in ASM the luchador mask and wind-resistant material. Pretty weak but still there.

Quicksilver seems to be dressed like a teenager from the 70’s and all the extra things like the goggles and utilities seem like they will have a reason, and aren’t just for show.

Pretty sure the reason for the goggles is to protect his eyes and so he can see when running at such high speed.

 

[pturtle]

They had them for a united look and for missions, that was the reason. Magneto was given a reason for his helmet. First Class gave them a reason about G-Force or something.

Batman Begins gave us a reason
Captain America gave us a reason
Spider-Man gave us a reason.

They need a reason to dress up.

Exactly, Hawkeye’s get up in The Avengers bothered me the most. He is a shield agent’ but he has this purple vest and his arms are out, and he wears sunglasses .

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

 

[pturtle]

True about Spider-Man, there wasn't a specific need for the body-sock. But it was shown that he took inspiration from where he got his powers and the colours of his wrestling attire, and in ASM the luchador mask and wind-resistant material. Pretty weak but still there.



Pretty sure the reason for the goggles is to protect his eyes and so he can see when running at such high speed.

Yup, they are necessary and I like them. His design really doesn’t bother me at all, people forget that this film takes place in the 70’s.

 

[karamazov80]

Quicksilver seems to be dressed like a teenager from the 70’s and all the extra things like the goggles and utilities seem like they will have a reason, and aren’t just for show.

True about Spider-Man, there wasn't a specific need for the body-sock. But it was shown that he took inspiration from where he got his powers and his wrestling attire, and in ASM the luchador mask and wind-resistant material. Pretty weak but still there.

I think you're both reinforcing my point, that weak justifications could be made for anything they want to do. But just because it's usually done doesn't mean it has to be done. Would a guy dressed like Batman seriously create more fear in criminals than some guy just wearing a regular black military uniform and ski mask who beat the **** out of people in the dark all the time? I don't think so. Capes make zero sense if you want a realistic justification for something, but you'll never see Superman or Batman without one.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Is that an oil pipeline running down his arm?

Hugh is huge compared to X1.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Hugh makes me feel like a skinny little boy

 

[Snake Plissken]

Eat 6,000 calories a day and workout 6 times a week, you'll get there

He's been working out hard for like 14 years now since X1.