X-Men: Days of Future Past

[The Phantom]

That small touch up would work, it just needs a somewhat human face like the comic version.

Exactly. Why would you change the head? That's the best part.

Another thing I don't get is, why did they feel the need to create a "life size" version? So Singer could pose with it in a picture? The height isn't even accurate. I know that that's probably the 70's version, and it's a prototype or whatever, but what did that toy cost? Couldn't that money have been better utilized elsewhere?

Couldn't they have just done it like the Destroyer in Thor (cgi), and then made a (proper) scale version of just the head and shoulders for close-ups? Hell, the film makers in 1933 knew enough to do that when they made King Kong, but these guys can't figure that out 80 years later?

I'm sorry, but it just seems like the only thing Bryan Singer is good at is spending other people's money, forcing his crappy "vision" down everyones throats, and then not even delivering.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Exactly. Why would you change the head? That's the best part.

Another thing I don't get is, why did they feel the need to create a "life size" version? So Singer could pose with it in a picture? The height isn't even accurate. I know that that's probably the 70's version, and it's a prototype or whatever, but what did that toy cost? Couldn't that money have been better utilized elsewhere?

Couldn't they have just done it like the Destroyer in Thor (cgi), and then made a (proper) scale version of just the head and shoulders for close-ups? Hell, the film makers in 1933 knew enough to do that when they made King Kong, but these guys can't figure that out 80 years later?

I'm sorry, but it just seems like the only thing Bryan Singer is good at is spending money, forcing his crappy "vision" down everyones throats, and then not even delivering.

So it would be something that people who were familiar with the Sentinels would appreciate.

 

[Kibagami]

I'm fine with the design of the Sentinel since it seems like it'll do some damage but did he really have to make it all black as well? Was a dash of purple and some blue too much to consider throwing in? Quick photoshop adding in the traditional colorway makes it all the more pleasing to the eyes.

Yeah, like how that one guy who photo shopped a wolverine mask on one of 'em recent empire covers.

I sort of like the sentinel design. It looks menacing. Like it would be really difficult to kill. However, there's not much referencing the original.

 

[thenammagazine]

Exactly. Why would you change the head? That's the best part.

Another thing I don't get is, why did they feel the need to create a "life size" version? So Singer could pose with it in a picture? The height isn't even accurate. I know that that's probably the 70's version, and it's a prototype or whatever, but what did that toy cost? Couldn't that money have been better utilized elsewhere?

Couldn't they have just done it like the Destroyer in Thor (cgi), and then made a (proper) scale version of just the head and shoulders for close-ups? Hell, the film makers in 1933 knew enough to do that when they made King Kong, but these guys can't figure that out 80 years later?

I'm sorry, but it just seems like the only thing Bryan Singer is good at is spending other people's money, forcing his crappy "vision" down everyones throats, and then not even delivering.

We know it didn't go to wardrobe.

So it would be something that people who were familiar with the Sentinels would appreciate.

 

[The Phantom]

So it would be something that people who were familiar with the Sentinels would appreciate.

Not really getting what you're saying here, that magazine cover's head looks nothing like that picture you posted.

*edit*- I guess you were joking about that, my bad.

 

[thenammagazine]

Not really getting what you're saying here, that magazine cover's head looks nothing like that picture you posted.

That's his whole point, duh! In all seriousness, I think you guys are saying the same thing, something just got lost in translation.

 

[The Phantom]

That's his whole point, duh! In all seriousness, I think you guys are saying the same thing, something just got lost in translation.

Yeah, I saw that. Fixed.

 

[Darth Zangetsu]

Exactly. Why would you change the head? That's the best part.

Another thing I don't get is, why did they feel the need to create a "life size" version? So Singer could pose with it in a picture? The height isn't even accurate. I know that that's probably the 70's version, and it's a prototype or whatever, but what did that toy cost? Couldn't that money have been better utilized elsewhere?

Couldn't they have just done it like the Destroyer in Thor (cgi), and then made a (proper) scale version of just the head and shoulders for close-ups? Hell, the film makers in 1933 knew enough to do that when they made King Kong, but these guys can't figure that out 80 years later?

I'm sorry, but it just seems like the only thing Bryan Singer is good at is spending other people's money, forcing his crappy "vision" down everyones throats, and then not even delivering.

Being honest, I do not think Singer really understands comic book characters, their worlds, and by proxy their films. He managed to get almost everything wrong in Superman Returns. His costumes and designs in this film just seem lazy, or resentful of the property. That Sentinel looks like a kids toy(Fisher Price my first Robot), and the future one is just an all black plated shadow?? Why not adapt the future to look more like the comic version? Or use Nimrod, the ultimate mutant killing Sentinel. Redo that design. Draining all the color from this world does not help this series. Not everyone needs to shop at the same store as Batman.

 

[jye4ever]

I found Singer's house on Google.

So it would be something that people who were familiar with the Sentinels would appreciate.

Because this would've been so difficult to translate to film.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Because this would've been so difficult to translate to film.

just "fixing" it for no apparent reason.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Not really getting what you're saying here, that magazine cover's head looks nothing like that picture you posted.

*edit*- I guess you were joking about that, my bad.

Yes, it's quite clear to me that they're not the same face... but that's the point. If the Sentinels in this film had at least that, they would be much more well received despite what the bodies looked like.

 

[Invictus Sol]

Sentinel design is terrible. Not a tenth as good as the classic designs. Really looks like a scrawny pilot from Prometheus. * sighs* Only hope is that it will look better in action. Or hopefully one of the Sentinel designs from Mark II - IX is actually respectful of the brilliant source material.

 

[Snake Plissken]

And here I thought I was the only one that thought it looked like an Engineer. How it functions on film will be the deciding factor, although as of right now I can't make heads or tails how bad or good this will turn out to be.

 

[jye4ever]

I thought it was feathers before noticing the little plates.

 

[carbo-fation]

It's saying a lot when the ****ty sentinel design looks better than Quicksilver. Seriously!?!? WTF! This movie will tank fo' sho!

 

[Snake Plissken]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Wolverine is the only one capable of destroying one

 

[Mad Old Lu]

Holy cow this is a tough room!

When pictures from the original XMen movie leaked, I too was very skeptical about how the movie would turn out. I thought, "Great. They're blatantly copying the Matrix and Blade." I also hated "The Usual Suspects" (I know I'm probably the only one) so I wasn't very optimistic. The only thing that looked good was the shot of Logan in his civilian clothes with his claws out in the snow. I thought that looked pretty damn good.

But when I finally saw the movie, I was completely fine with the choice of clothes. It didn't matter since they got the characters so right. Even though they did some finagling with characters, I was happy that they got their essences right, and their group dynamics. Sure, there were some problems, but like I said, because the characters were well written I was more than willing to overlook those faults. I thought X-2 improved on everything from the first, especially making the action sequences better (which I thought the first one was lacking).

I also thought First Class was great, but mainly because of Charles's and Erik's characters and relationship with each other. I felt the worst part was the team that they assembled and I particularly hated the scene when all the kids are hanging out showing off their powers. But I'm willing to overlook that as well because of how great Charles and Erik were. And remember how ridiculous those original teaser posters were for the movie? Terrible. But the movie turned out great.

My point is that we can't know how the actual movie will be, how the story will unfold and how we will feel towards the characters. I truly believe that is the most important part of any movie, especially a comic book movie. It doesn't matter how cool the character designs are if we don't care for the characters themselves.

For example I didn't like Captain America: First Avenger. The story (even though I know his origin) just left me cold in the way Johnston directed it. I can't explain it. I see the scene where it's building a certain character and I'm supposed care. But I just don't feel a thing. Of course you can also criticize Johnston's inappropriate decision to make it all futuristic and sic-fy-y, but I can't deny that the characters "looked" cool. But ultimately the cool character designs did not make me enjoy the movie any better.

So yeah, we can all pick apart the look and design of all these characters, but I'm willing to wait and see how the movie will turn out before I start handing out such harsh criticism.

Also, someone mentioned that they thought it was a waste of money to construct a life-size sentinel instead of rendering it through CGI. I will always always always prefer practical effects over CGI. CGI has come a long way and it can look 100% flawless and convincing. But there is still something about the physical object in a scene and how it reacts (lighting, physics, etc) with its surroundings and how the actors react to the object that can never be beat.

 

[thenammagazine]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Wolverine is the only one capable of destroying one

It'll be interesting to see how they play that. We've already seen him take one out single-handed, so it'll be much less believable to see him get his *** handed to him by lame prototypes.

 

[thenammagazine]

Also, someone mentioned that they thought it was a waste of money to construct a life-size sentinel instead of rendering it through CGI. I will always always always prefer practical effects over CGI. CGI has come a long way and it can look 100% flawless and convincing. But there is still something about the physical object in a scene and how it reacts (lighting, physics, etc) with its surroundings and how the actors react to the object that can never be beat.

In many cases yes, but Avengers' Hulk also proves the counterpoint.

 

[The Phantom]

Being honest, I do not think Singer really understands comic book characters, their worlds, and by proxy their films. He managed to get almost everything wrong in Superman Returns. His costumes and designs in this film just seem lazy, or resentful of the property. That Sentinel looks like a kids toy(Fisher Price my first Robot), and the future one is just an all black plated shadow?? Why not adapt the future to look more like the comic version? Or use Nimrod, the ultimate mutant killing Sentinel. Redo that design. Draining all the color from this world does not help this series. Not everyone needs to shop at the same store as Batman.

Yes.

Also, what you said about Superman Returns was spot on. He did manage to get everything wrong in that film.

Remember that deleted scene with Superman flying through his old house on the planet Krypton? How stupid was that? If you watch the Donner version (which this was a "continuation" of), not only did the planet explode, but the sun did as well. The shot even lingered to show there was nothing left. So what was there to go back to? Nothing. so the whole reason for him leaving made absolutely no sense at all.

Even if there was something there, what was he hoping to find, 7 stranded castaways?

That sequence cost 10 million dollars, they couldn't even use it, and that was just the beginning of the damn movie.