X-Men: First Class

[lobox42]

Anybody here know what lobox42 thinks? I'm anxious to hear his opinion.

X-MEN!! movie is...

 

[plasmid303]

I'm still pulling for Vaughn to make this all work, somehow.

 

[Agent0028]

The continuity problem annoys me, mostly because I think it makes more sense to keep continuity OR make it more like the comic First Class, but that's not my biggest problem with it. My biggest problem is that I just haven't seen or heard anything that is appealing to me. Same problem with Wolverine: Origins. Although I did add it to my Netflix queue since I can pretty much watch it for free and as a fan I feel like I'm supposed to watch it.

 

[Buttmunch]

re: Timeline continuity....

I was discussing the years that Wolverine took place in relation to X-Men 1 on another board and came up with this:

Logan and Jimmy were recruited during Vietnam, and then after Logan left the group 6 years had passed before Stryker found him again. And that was 15 years prior to X-men.

So if X-men was in 1999, and it was 15 years since the bulk of Origins, then that puts us at 1984 for the movie.

6 years lapsed after Logan left the group, which means he left in 1978 and was working with the group for at least 3 years before he left.

Actually X-men 1 takes place in 'the not so distant future' so it would have to be at LEAST 2000, not 1999.

 

[CelticPredator]

Origins doesnt exist. Deadpool (if made) will ignore it. The Wolverine will ignore it, and hopefully this one will too.

 

[DinoLast]

If Origins takes place in 1984 then that puts Cyclops at 17 in Origins but 33 in X-Men which would be fine. Then that puts Emma though at let's say 18 in Origins in 1984 but all of a sudden 33 back in 1964? That also puts First Class which for arguments sakes is said to occur "In the Sixties" but most are placing it in 1963. Even though the Cuban Missile Crisis supposedly is mentioned in it which is 1962, puts Emma at 33 in 1962, deaging her to 18 by 1984.

Continuity was blown a while ago but this is just laughable. They replace a vast number of characters but keep on that is a black eye on the whole process of even bothering?

I thought Origins was set in 1979, because of the Three mile Island cover up that was used at the end of the movie? That's what made me think Scott was too old in that movie.

 

[steve74]

I just read this in an article about X-Men: First Class, from the mouth of the director.

"And, please, one more story tease?
It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it."

https://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/22/x-men-first-class-matthew-vaughn/

WTF!?!

 

[Kabukiman]

I just read this in an article about X-Men: First Class, from the mouth of the director.

"And, please, one more story tease?
It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it."

https://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/22/x-men-first-class-matthew-vaughn/

WTF!?!

I wonder if they are cognizant of the fact that they are making a comic book movie that comic book fans (ie: their audience) will want nothing to do with.

If their target audience is Twitards, then they're in for a rude awakening.

 

[steve74]

re: Timeline continuity....

I was discussing the years that Wolverine took place in relation to X-Men 1 on another board and came up with this:

Logan and Jimmy were recruited during Vietnam, and then after Logan left the group 6 years had passed before Stryker found him again. And that was 15 years prior to X-men.

So if X-men was in 1999, and it was 15 years since the bulk of Origins, then that puts us at 1984 for the movie.

6 years lapsed after Logan left the group, which means he left in 1978 and was working with the group for at least 3 years before he left.

Wolverine origins timeline/movie didn't happen, it was all part of Weapon X programming to screw with Logan's (and everyone else's) head so he could become a better killer. Or at least that's what I'm going to keep telling myself.

 

[steve74]

I wonder if they are cognizant of the fact that they are making a comic book movie that comic book fans (ie: their audience) will want nothing to do with.

If their target audience is Twitards, then they're in for a rude awakening.

I can honestly say I hope so. I look at like this, if the X-Men movies keep the suck factor high enough maybe people will stop going to see them and Fox will stop making them. If that happens then hopefully Marvel will get the rights back. Punisher is back under Marvel's wing now so here's hoping. I would love to see X-Men sharing screen time with the Avengers or Shield. It probably wont happen but I can wish.

 

[The Mike]

Origins doesnt exist. Deadpool (if made) will ignore it. The Wolverine will ignore it, and hopefully this one will too.

Deadpool I heard would ignore it based on script details but The Wolverine will too? I thought based on what Jackman said it was a continuation of Origins based on him heading to Japan after the events of the film. Now based on the "memory wipe" I guess you could essentially ignore it but it doesn't seem set up that way.

I thought Origins was set in 1979, because of the Three mile Island cover up that was used at the end of the movie? That's what made me think Scott was too old in that movie.

I was going by the timeline detailed here and completely forgot about Three Mile Island. If that is the case then yet Scott was much too old as would be Xavier really even with the digital "deaging" but that makes it more headscratching that Emma would be 18 in 1979 only to be 33 in 1962.

I just read this in an article about X-Men: First Class, from the mouth of the director.

"And, please, one more story tease?
It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it."

https://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/22/x-men-first-class-matthew-vaughn/

WTF!?!

Vaughn is trying to get girls to see it. Realistically Twilight is superpowered tortured beings each one with a common trait but various powers dealing a central character falling in love with a human and dealing with introducing them to their world.

Look at Spider-Man, a superpowered being who is tortured by various events in his life dealing with falling in love with someone who isn't like them and introducing them into his world.

X-Men, superpowered beings who are tortured by being misunderstood and not accepted by society trying to be part of their world and gain understanding of their own lots in life.

In the basic archetypes there isn't much difference. The big difference is the source material is horribly written and since it was widely accepted and loved by girls, the films are tailored to highlight those aspects. If you look at Singer's X-Men there was a love triangle and angst of lost loves, angst of not being able to love, lamenting over friendships, etc. No different than a lot of girly novels.

 

[lerath666]

.... Yeah, I don't have alot of hope for this.

With any luck, it will fail horribly, Fox will give up, and it will revert to marvel/disney. and then we can actually get some good x-men movies.

For the record, It's not the actors i dislike. It's the crap writing.

then again, who knows, it could actually, somehow work, and improve my faith in the x-movies.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yes, Deadpool does ignore it, even has a sweet scene where Deadpool knocks the little Barakapool action figure in the trash.

I heard the Wolverine takes place in Japan, but doesnt refrence Origins in any way....possibly even the "birth of Wolverine" scene.....but who knows.

 

[CanolliCrusader]

Nope. This will suck.

Luckily there is Thor and Cap to look foward to this summer

 

[lord-22]

Nope. This will suck.

Luckily there is Thor and Cap to look foward to this summer

and green lantern

 

[MarfMaster]

This movie is a pile of ____ing fail, what a shame.

 

[Sachiel]

I seen it and I also agree.

It was a very bad movie and people shouldn't bother spending money to see it in theaters. It's a rent at best.

 

[Reinhardt]

This movie is a pile of ____ing fail, what a shame.

At least we can save our money on the inevitable Hot Toys figures to spend on more xeno/kato/elvis/rainman/etc customs...

 

[CanolliCrusader]

It should be a rule that is a series like x-men is pooped on like it was with x-men last stand....the franchise should be given a 10 yr hiatus so people can adequately forget that it ever happened...

 

[The Mike]

At least we can save our money on the inevitable Hot Toys figures to spend on more xeno/kato/elvis/rainman/etc customs...

Well the good news I guess is that Hot Toys already has the Singer/Ratner license and has said they are putting out characters from the original trilogy. I haven't seen or heard anything about First Class so they might be waiting to see how it performs on whether or not to even bother.