X-Men: First Class

[Alex Logan]

Love them or hate them, but the X-men films are why we have all of the great comic book films we have today. If X-men 1 hadn't done so well, all of the other super hero films probably never would have happened. So for that, I'll always hold a deal of respect for the the first film.

I coudn't disagree more. X-Men is why we have all the bad Marvel films. Marvel sold good property to movie studios to make a bunch of money and now those studios can keep it as long as they make a film evey few years. Talk about a bad idea. I'll take quality or quantity any day.

Comic book movies would have caught on one way or the other. After all, they were trying to make Spiderman for 12 years before they got it in to theaters.

 

[Buttmunch]

Blade was more Vampire movie than comic book per se. Perhaps Blade is more responsible for us getting Twlight and all of the other vampire crap lately

 

[joebizz34]

I coudn't disagree more. X-Men is why we have all the bad Marvel films. Marvel sold good property to movie studios to make a bunch of money and now those studios can keep it as long as they make a film evey few years. Talk about a bad idea. I'll take quality or quantity any day.

Comic book movies would have caught on one way or the other. After all, they were trying to make Spiderman for 12 years before they got it in to theaters.

I totally agree with you. To say that X-Men is what caused comic films to catch on is stretching it in my book. What about the Superman films in the late 70's to mid 80's? The Batman movies, Blade, Spawn and as you mentioned, Spiderman was in the works regardless if X-Men was made or not.

Now if you say that X-Men caused team hero movies to be made like Fantastic Four and the up and coming Avengers, I would go along with that a little more.

 

[Buttmunch]

Superhero films were very sporadic at best before X-men. X-men started the craze. End of story.

 

[CelticPredator]

X-Men started it all. It's a fact. Without it, there would be no good hero flicks.

 

[joebizz34]

Superhero films were very sporadic at best before X-men. X-men started the craze. End of story.

I'll give you "re-kicked start the craze" or re-motivated Hollywood to make more, but not the sole reason. You can say X-Men is also the reason there were a lot of bad Marvel films to be made after that as well. Daredevil, The first Hulk, both Punishers, and both Fantastic Four movies.


Spiderman came out not too long after and would have started the craze anyway. So who's to say whether that movie did it or X-Men did it? I'm not saying X-Men didn't have influence, but the craze would have happened either way like the other member said.

 

[joebizz34]

X-Men started it all. It's a fact. Without it, there would be no good hero flicks.

Disagree. There were GOOD hero flicks before X-Men. It may have had influence for more to be made like I said before, but good hero flicks were made before it even if it wasn't as often and good hero flicks would have been in our future either way. Once again, Spiderman was already being made and would have existed the way it was with or without X-Men. Sorry to say, but I do not look back at X-Men as a great film. i was underwhelmed by it and thought the second one was way better.

 

[CelticPredator]

It's all Superman's fault.

 

[CelticPredator]

Disagree. There were GOOD hero flicks before X-Men. It may have had influence for more to be made like I said before, but good hero flicks were made before it even if it wasn't as often and good hero flicks would have been in our future either way. Once again, Spiderman was already being made and would have existed the way it was with or without X-Men. Sorry to say, but I do not look back at X-Men as a great film. i was underwhelmed by it and thought the second one was way better.

You cant disagree with a fact...it doesnt matter if X-Men was a great film or not...it started everything. It showed the studios that there is an audience for it. Which got Spider-Man into production, and so on.

 

[joebizz34]

You cant disagree with a fact...it doesnt matter if X-Men was a great film or not...it started everything. It showed the studios that there is an audience for it. Which got Spider-Man into production, and so on.

To each their own my brother.

But you can't say that it was a "fact". Like I stated before...Spiderman was already in production and on it's way. X-Men had nothing to do with that.

 

[The Mike]

I would argue that X-Men didn't kick off the craze. X-Men was released in 2000 but people were still getting over the horrid Batman and Robin from 1997, even Blade in 1998 was viewed by many studios and critics as fairly meh. Most people would agree that the real superhero film kick off, or the new one since we did have films released before this was Raimi's Spider-Man in 2002. They did an origin that was only marginally changed, they did a costume that stuck close to the comics, it literally was the kick off marker. X-Men and all the other films before it really did whatever they wanted in terms of costume and backstory whereas Raimi didn't. Given that Spider-Man was in process since 1998 I would say it shows a real respect for the genre and character where X-Men although many loved it, really didn't. X-Men was Bryan Singer's version of the characters just like Batman 89 was Burton's and Superman 78 was Mario Puzo's and Donner.

X-Men: First Class definitely takes the positives of dozens of films before it including films like The Dark Knight and Iron Man and makes something truly special but it also learns from the mistakes of those who didn't as well.

 

[EVILFACE]

Batman and Robin killed em but Blade started them back up.

 

[joebizz34]

I would argue that X-Men didn't kick off the craze. X-Men was released in 2000 but people were still getting over the horrid Batman and Robin from 1997, even Blade in 1998 was viewed by many studios and critics as fairly meh. Most people would agree that the real superhero film kick off, or the new one since we did have films released before this was Raimi's Spider-Man in 2002. They did an origin that was only marginally changed, they did a costume that stuck close to the comics, it literally was the kick off marker. X-Men and all the other films before it really did whatever they wanted in terms of costume and backstory whereas Raimi didn't.

X-Men: First Class definitely takes the positives of dozens of films before it including films like The Dark Knight and Iron Man and makes something truly special but it also learns from the mistakes of those who didn't as well.

Well you know with all this discussion and debate, I will make a point to see it. I am always rooting for a good film regardless. If it entertains me and makes me care for the characters, then I'm in.

 

[joebizz34]

Batman and Robin killed em but Blade started them back up.

Agreed and I think Blade played an important role in the evolution of comic to movies. Blade and even Spawn, to a lesser degree even though it wasn't as good, showed Hollywood that there was an audience for comic characters that weren't made just for kids and could appeal to a more mature audience.

 

[wofford29]

Superman, Batman, The Crow

 

[joebizz34]

Superman, Batman, The Crow

Great point!! I totally forgot about The Crow.

 

[wofford29]

X-men had zero influence on anything. It did well but that didn't start some craze, because there is no craze. When you look at the number of films released each year compared to how many are actually comic films, craze is a huge over exaggeration. There was a comic film or two released every year from 78 to present.

 

[joebizz34]

X-men had zero influence on anything. It did well but that didn't start some craze, because there is no craze. When you look at the number of films released each year compared to how many are actually comic films, craze is a huge over exaggeration. There was a comic film or two released every year from 78 to present.

 

[Kal-El]

Just saw X Men First Class. Better then I thought.

 

[The Ween]

I loved this movie, especially....

Spoiler

When Magneto and the Professor walked into the bar and introduced themselves to Wolfie. That was great and got a great crowd reaction.