Your Favorite Predator from the Movies

[WolfPredatorAVPR]

Yeah, when I originally read it I thought you said something like "AvP was horrible, AvP:R wasn't as bad", my bad.

When you watch them, close all the windows, turn the volume up, make some Popcorn, and pretend that you're seeing them both for the first time in the theater, and watch them in order.

So, yeah. I went and dusted off the ol AVP dvd. I went in with no intentions of trying to judge the movie because I did forget a few things about it, since its been a few years since I watched it. I still rate this movie a 3 out of 10( 1 point for being predator related, 1 points for being alien related, 1 point for the main character being a pretty good lookin woman), even by predator standards. I mean really Scar should have been the only predator in the movie fighting. The other 2 predators were pretty much a waste of space to have in the movie. Scar did some cool things, ill admit but...eh...nothing you haven't seen before really. When he took off his mask at the end I pretty much almost lost it. I forgot just how horrible his face looked in that movie and I nearly laughed out loud at it. Pretty bad movie all around and as I said before I can't say much about it being even remotely good.

As regards to the aliens and there actions. They seemed to be a lot like Aliens in the movie "Aliens", besides Grid which seemed to have another sense than most of the others didn't have. I donno, maybe he was born from a smarter human....who knows. I do think that the movie was pointed more towards Alien fans because they seemed far superior to the predators in terms of killing.

Now on to watch AVPR and this time ill pay close attention to the aliens.

 

[laudel7]

P1 FTW! Who the hell voted chopper show yourself!

 

[WolfPredatorAVPR]

P1 FTW! Who the hell voted chopper show yourself!

lol.............. good question

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Choppers cool, go die.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Celtic definitely was NOT a waste of time in the movie. Predators die, Aliens die. Chopper died.
Chopper is my favorite AvP Pred though, love his armor + his dual skull on a sticks.

The movie was definitely NOT more Alien favored............
Predator teaming up with the human, them running around defeating the enemys (Aliens)..

Yes, the Aliens were more like the ones from Aliens and A:R based on how they acted.. I don't know if you're saying thats a bad thing or not, but if you are.. They were far better looking, and acting than the mentally disabled ones in AvP:R.

When you say Scar did some cool things, but nothing we haven't seen before... What!? The things he did were so badass. Wolf didn't come close in that category.
I mean, come on.. Pretending to be a statue, then spearing the guy..
I can accept the dislikeing of the face (although it's grown on me and I like it now..), but to give his action scenes that little credit seems crazy to me.

Lastly: "Pretty bad movie all around and as I said before I can't say much about it being even remotely good"

...Not even remotely good?.... Really? But you prefer the dark blurrs moving around on the screen making Alien-like noises?.....

Don't mean to sound like a ******, but I don't get why you hate it so much.

IMO it had everything the first AvP movie needed.. Some Unblooded Predators going on their first hunt, one survives, faces off against the Queen and loses. Don't forget the human actors (I guess i'm one of the only ones who enjoyed the human actors, and their acting..) Then, after hes dead, and all the amazing action scenes are over with, we get that perfect "AWWW MAN, PERFECT!" moment when the Predalien Chestburster pops out of Scar...

The movie just seemed great to me, very well made... Sucks that you don't see it that way..

 

[WolfPredatorAVPR]

Celtic definitely was NOT a waste of time in the movie. Predators die, Aliens die. Chopper died.
Chopper is my favorite AvP Pred though, love his armor + his dual skull on a sticks.

The movie was definitely NOT more Alien favored............
Predator teaming up with the human, them running around defeating the enemys (Aliens)..

Yes, the Aliens were more like the ones from Aliens and A:R based on how they acted.. I don't know if you're saying thats a bad thing or not, but if you are.. They were far better looking, and acting than the mentally disabled ones in AvP:R.

When you say Scar did some cool things, but nothing we haven't seen before... What!? The things he did were so badass. Wolf didn't come close in that category.
I mean, come on.. Pretending to be a statue, then spearing the guy..
I can accept the dislikeing of the face (although it's grown on me and I like it now..), but to give his action scenes that little credit seems crazy to me.

Lastly: "Pretty bad movie all around and as I said before I can't say much about it being even remotely good"

...Not even remotely good?.... Really? But you prefer the dark blurrs moving around on the screen making Alien-like noises?.....

Don't mean to sound like a ******, but I don't get why you hate it so much.

IMO it had everything the first AvP movie needed.. Some Unblooded Predators going on their first hunt, one survives, faces off against the Queen and loses. Don't forget the human actors (I guess i'm one of the only ones who enjoyed the human actors, and their acting..) Then, after hes dead, and all the amazing action scenes are over with, we get that perfect "AWWW MAN, PERFECT!" moment when the Predalien Chestburster pops out of Scar...

The movie just seemed great to me, very well made... Sucks that you don't see it that way..

I donno man, I am a HUGE predator fan. I love the characters and I am partial to any movie that a predator is just in. I tried my best to really enjoy the movie but I just couldn't. What I mean by its more toward Aliens is the first 2 predators just die off right away. Yes, like I said, scar had some nice kills...what he did was different but not like over the top out of this world. I am not saying Wolf did either but that seems to be half of your argument on why it was a good movie. I agree with some aspects of AVPR, some of the camera and lighting work was god awful. I think I like the fact that wolf was an experienced hunter and the new preds that were inexperienced in fighting(even scar at times seemed extremely confused)...just didn't really appeal to me. I do agree that the aliens were well built and really reminded me of the movie Aliens in how they acted. Ill give them credit in that department that for an aliens fan, I think they were spot on really. I can see things from your perspective on the predators and why you liked to see something a little different. Me personally, ill take a p1, p2 or wolf anyday of the week...just my opinion

As far as AVPR goes ill have to save watching it again for another day. I just dont think I can watch all that horrible acting.

 

[Silasya77]

1. Jungle Hunter / Classic

2. City Hunter / Berserker

3. Predator 2 Elder

4. Tracker

5. Falconer

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

The "half your argument...good movie" thing.

The way the fight scenes were set up was perfect. The moves they made, the damage they did.
It goes from these awesome, slow-motion, well thought out action scenes (AvP), to these boring, dark, "Oh, that one was okay.." action scenes..
To me it was so amazing and thrilling to see a Predator jump from ledge to ledge while cloaking as several bullets fly through the air towards him. And the Scar 360 spin/flip scene was just perfect... You think hes done, out of energy on the ground somewhere. Alexa is trapped, Queen getting closer to her every second then woosh... Everything stops, in the corner of the screen you see Scar thrust the his combi-stick into the Queens head..

I know I talk about the action/fighting scenes alot, but they deserve it because they were so well thought out and add a large amount of enjoyment to the movie. AvP:R just didn't have that.

Besides the action scenes, there is the story. That has got to be one of the most interesting and unique ideas ever. And it played out great(apparently you didn't think so.. But I did).
You've gota admit that the AvP story was far superior to AvP:R's...

One other thing. AvP has a strong feel to it, like each A/P movie does.
AvP:R has a more bland, weak feel to it IMO.

 

[Frocksin]

1) P2 GrayBack
2) P2 Borg
3) P1 and P2
4) other Lost Hanters
5) Celtic, Tracker and Falconer

 

[agentofchaos73]

Not a big fan of either of the AVP movies. I felt like Chopper and Celtic Preds got killed way too easily, and I realize they are younger and inexperienced. They just shouldn't have been completely owned by the aliens as they were. There were some good action sequences, but for me it's still the worst of the Predator movies.

AVP:R had horrible acting, and the lighting and angles were so bad you almost couldn't tell what was happening at some points. I suppose they didn't have a big budget for that one and had to cut some corners. It's a shame, too, becuase the Wolf was an awesome character. He got the job done, and it didn't matter who had to die along the way. Throw in some better acting, take out the High School drama garbage, and pay for some visual effects so you can actually see what's going on, and this could have been a pretty good movie. Just my opinion, of course.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

^ And make the Aliens act like actual Aliens..

Celtic didn't get owned BTW.. he beat the _____ out of Grid.
If the little nail gun thing can blow a chunk out of an AvP Xenomorph's head, then why can't a solid stone wall?!

 

[isculpt]

Wolf>Scar any day everyday. I'm sorry, Scar is cool, but to compare him to Wolf is just a joke. Wolf was veteran who didn't even have to try to kill the Aliens. Yeh the aliens were not so deadly in AVPR but you have to realize Wolf was a BA. Alien whip? Dual Plasma Cannons? Wolf wins every day of the week .Also on the action of the AVP movie, I feel the predators moved too slow and were more like pro-wrestlers than preds. They were waaaaaay to muscular and slow. The Celtic fight scene just made him look stiff. Good choreography, but Celtic looked too incoherent. Also Celtic did get owned. He had the Alien on the ropes, with the net and everything and Grid just popped out and headshotted him.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Nononononono.

Celtic owned Grid. Getting Owned is getting your ass kicked. Grid got a lucky shot on Celtic, thats not getting your ass kicked.

I don't recall seeing Wolf jumping over 15 feet in the air. The AvP trio was NOT "stiff".

How is Scar a joke, and wolf a God, again? Just because you like the way Wolf looks doesn't make him a God.

The facts are: Scar showed 100x more skill than Wolf, even though in the story Wolf was supposed to be far superior.

You can't say _____ about Wolf "killing so many Aliens" because they were more like mentally ill rabits hopping and wiggling around everywhere.

"Wolf was a veteran who didn't even have to try to kill aliens omgduh"

Because, like I said, they acted as if they had no control over their own bodies, and just wiggled around not even bothering to attack. Thats why they were put in the movie. So Wolf could run around and kill them easily, and so certain people would automatically think "omg Wolf is the koolest predator ever"

'Wolf was a BA, alien whip, dual plasma cannons?"

Yeah, those WEAPONS were cool. Too bad he hardly knew how to use them.

"Wolf wins everyday of the week"

Is this before or after he (Wolf, the all-amazing Cleaner) gets impaled by the Predalien because he stripped naked in front of it, while Scar (a new Youngblood) is doing flips and turns in the air thrusting combi-sticks into a 20 foot Queen Alien?......

"They were waaayyy to muscular and slow"

Rather have them be muscular than anorexic.... They weren't slow, don't try.

 

[Kiva]

Scar was so lame Lex had to save him about 5 times in the movie from stupid attacks.

It doesnt matter if Scar decided he was a power ranger every now and again with his ninja moves because for the rest of the movie he was just a fat stupid oaf that couldnt fight off a door to door window salesman.

 

[isculpt]

Nononononono.

Celtic owned Grid. Getting Owned is getting your ass kicked. Grid got a lucky shot on Celtic, thats not getting your ass kicked.

I don't recall seeing Wolf jumping over 15 feet in the air. The AvP trio was NOT "stiff".

How is Scar a joke, and wolf a God, again? Just because you like the way Wolf looks doesn't make him a God.

The facts are: Scar showed 100x more skill than Wolf, even though in the story Wolf was supposed to be far superior.

You can't say _____ about Wolf "killing so many Aliens" because they were more like mentally ill rabits hopping and wiggling around everywhere.

"Wolf was a veteran who didn't even have to try to kill aliens omgduh"

Because, like I said, they acted as if they had no control over their own bodies, and just wiggled around not even bothering to attack. Thats why they were put in the movie. So Wolf could run around and kill them easily, and so certain people would automatically think "omg Wolf is the koolest predator ever"

'Wolf was a BA, alien whip, dual plasma cannons?"

Yeah, those WEAPONS were cool. Too bad he hardly knew how to use them.

"Wolf wins everyday of the week"

Is this before or after he (Wolf, the all-amazing Cleaner) gets impaled by the Predalien because he stripped naked in front of it, while Scar (a new Youngblood) is doing flips and turns in the air thrusting combi-sticks into a 20 foot Queen Alien?......

"They were waaayyy to muscular and slow"

Rather have them be muscular than anorexic.... They weren't slow, don't try.

The movements of the Pred were waaaay too sloppy. And to call Wolf anorexic is practically calling the P1 anorexic. In which case both have more merit than Scar. Scar is a good pred, but Wolf is better. Also Wolf was honor bound and saw Predalien as a worth opponent and thats why he did the whole strip down. Also I remember Wolf getting knocked around by the Aliens so its not like they were mentally ill. Also the scene where he holds them up? He only held them up for a few seconds then he gets knocked around. Scar is cool no doubt, but saying he is better than Wolf is just

 

[agentofchaos73]

While I agree it wasn't the smartest move for Wolf to remove all of his armor before fighting the hybrid, at least he didn't remove his bio in a pyramid crawling with facehuggers.

While Scar was the only one of the three AVP Predators with any fighting and survival skills, he certainly wasn't smart to remove his bio to mark his head. I remember sitting in the theater watching that and cringing.

While most of the other Predators have died because of arrogance, the AVP Predators died from lack of skill. If the AVP trio had been in the first movie, Jim Hopper would still be alive today.

 

[isculpt]

Case in point, in AVP, the Aliens were ideal, but the preds were lame compared to the other movie incarnations. However in AVPR the predator was good, but the Aliens this time were lame. Wolf was the idealized modern predator, (before Predators, but thats a whole other topic.) and the aliens of the first AVP were idealized. AVPR-good predator, bad aliens. AVP-Good aliens, bad predators. And yeh Celtic did get owned. It doesn't matter if he was able to throw around the Alien or what not, he ended up just like Chopper, dead before the second act.

 

[isculpt]

While I agree it wasn't the smartest move for Wolf to remove all of his armor before fighting the hybrid, at least he didn't remove his bio in a pyramid crawling with facehuggers.

While Scar was the only one of the three AVP Predators with any fighting and survival skills, he certainly wasn't smart to remove his bio to mark his head. I remember sitting in the theater watching that and cringing.

While most of the other Predators have died because of arrogance, the AVP Predators died from lack of skill. If the AVP trio had been in the first movie, Jim Hopper would still be alive today.

Lol. The black ops team from P1 would tear the AVP preds to shreds.

 

[EndIessRAlN]

^ And make the Aliens act like actual Aliens..

Celtic didn't get owned BTW.. he beat the _____ out of Grid.
If the little nail gun thing can blow a chunk out of an AvP Xenomorph's head, then why can't a solid stone wall?!

It's an old wall.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

The movements of the Pred were waaaay too sloppy. And to call Wolf anorexic is practically calling the P1 anorexic. In which case both have more merit than Scar. Scar is a good pred, but Wolf is better. Also Wolf was honor bound and saw Predalien as a worth opponent and thats why he did the whole strip down. Also I remember Wolf getting knocked around by the Aliens so its not like they were mentally ill. Also the scene where he holds them up? He only held them up for a few seconds then he gets knocked around. Scar is cool no doubt, but saying he is better than Wolf is just

Dude, you do know that P1 was not ANYWHERE near the same bodytype as Wolf, right?

Scar was better, Wolf was horrible. Deal with it.

Wolf wasn't on a retarded honorable bull____ mission. He was there to wipe out an abomination.

Wow, Wolf got hit by some Aliens.. Still no proof that they weren't mentally ill. Just means that they accidently moved a body part the right way.

Scar was so much more skillful than Wolf. YES, I DO REALIZE WOLF WAS SUPPOSED (<--key word right there) to be more skillful, and a veteran, etc. But he wasn't in the movie. He was a smokeing pile of anorexic crap.

Is their like some cult of Wolf worshippers that can't admit the truth or something?

For the other posts you people have made since my last, I can find flaws in each statement.. And for most, i've repeatedly pointed these specific flaws out already in this thread. Don't know why you guys won't admit it.

I love Wolf, but he was a complete idiot along with the Aliens, in AvP:R.

They should have been better, Strause Bros screwed them repeatedly.

Is there anybody out there who hasn't been affected by this weird fanboy love for Wolf?! God help me!!!