Zack Snyder's Justice League

[Prime Clone]

Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

WB might as well include the Nolan trilogy and throw in there Inception and Tenet....and **** it, The Prestige too.

MoS actually felt like part of the Nolanverse until BvS came out. After all, it was similarly realistic and also produced by Nolan.

 

[GreenRanger-Kush]

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They never squeezed Joqueins joker into the DCEU and that was a hit. I get you have feelings and stuff but that doesn't make it factual.

Agreed.

 

[M United]

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What feelings are u talking about lol. I?m looking at what they did before. And what they are still doing now. And again YOU don?t know what will happen cause you can?t predict the future. They may not put pheonix in but it?ll probably still be his joker or something like that. Your feelings are getting in the way. Not mine. This is a business and DC wants money. They also haven?t had success since BOP was a flop this year. The only success DCEzu wise is Aquaman and Shazam . But DC as a whole is doing fine
They just want to please as many people as they can all while trying to get that money.

If that means adding pat bat and pheonix joker in then they?ll most I predict certainly do it.

But again idk just like you don?t know
Also who said I?m treating my feelings as facts? These are all assumptions. I?m guessing just like you. No offense but jeez Dceu fans get sensitive so quickly.

I?m only making assumptions based on what I?ve seen.

But I will say that if pat bat makes a billion then you can bet your *** they?ll capitalize off it and it?ll make a new universe

What i mean by feelings is what you think what you feel. You feel they will squeeze the Joquein phoenix Joker into the DCEU with no evidence of WB doing this sort of thing. It may happen but anything may happen maybe i will buy WB in the near future with no evidence of me doing anything of the sort. Anything is possible right? They won't do it they will keep it separate to pull in the cash continue doing elseworld stories along with the DCEU and maybe this multiverse.

Now these elseworld stories i like Joker, Mat Reeves Batman i am not sure what WB is playing at here i cant see the bigger picture but they are a professional studio they do have a plan.

Talking of this new direction and its success Joker, Aquaman and Shazam where all hits ok Shazam didn't make massive money but it was a fantastic movie. BOP didn't flop but it probably lost a bit of money and was a disappointment for sure. Hellboy was a flop something that loses massive money. 3 hits out of 4 for WB is massive success before JL it was mostly a disappointment after disappointment.

 

[ironwez20]

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What i mean by feelings is what you think what you feel. You feel they will squeeze the Joquein phoenix Joker into the DCEU with no evidence of WB doing this sort of thing. It may happen but anything may happen maybe i will buy WB in the near future with no evidence of me doing anything of the sort. Anything is possible right? They won't do it they will keep it separate to pull in the cash continue doing elseworld stories along with the DCEU and maybe this multiverse.

Now these elseworld stories i like Joker, Mat Reeves Batman i am not sure what WB is playing at here i cant see the bigger picture but they are a professional studio they do have a plan.

Talking of this new direction and its success Joker, Aquaman and Shazam where all hits ok Shazam didn't make massive money but it was a fantastic movie. BOP didn't flop but it probably lost a bit of money and was a disappointment for sure. Hellboy was a flop something that loses massive money. 3 hits out of 4 for WB is massive success before JL it was mostly a disappointment after disappointment.

I think solo movies are the way to go right now. Trying to connect isn?t the best. I just want DC to realize they have a great roster of characters outside Batman and are just as good sometimes better than marvel. I don?t know why but the cartoon division has always dropped hits. They know the world and the characters

 

[M United]

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I think solo movies are the way to go right now. Trying to connect isn?t the best. I just want DC to realize they have a great roster of characters outside Batman and are just as good sometimes better than marvel. I don?t know why but the cartoon division has always dropped hits. They know the world and the characters

The connection before what the snyder part of the DCEU they have moved on from that and are currently doing solo dceu movies. When they build up the audience and trust then and only then should they release the Justice league movie we all should have got. a JL movie should be making 2 billion!

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

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The way the joker ended potentially implying he was stuck in arkham that whole time and the movie took place in his mind- its not out of the realm of possibilities to have him in the dceu. The timing issues with the joker taking place in the 80s is not a problem if most of what we saw in the joker were just his jumbled memories or journey into his crazy mind- none of it was real except the end when he escapes and who knows what decade that was in. It could be like a captain america moment he walks out in modern times.

 

[ironwez20]

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The way the joker ended potentially implying he was stuck in arkham that whole time and the movie took place in his mind- its not out of the realm of possibilities to have him in the dceu. The timing issues with the joker taking place in the 80s is not a problem if most of what we saw in the joker were just his jumbled memories or journey into his crazy mind- none of it was real except the end when he escapes and who knows what decade that was in. It could be like a captain america moment he walks out in modern times.

Which is why I think they will probably make his joker the main joker in pat bat. They don?t have to get pheonix back just loosely tie it together. Leave it up to interpretation.

In the ending joker looks healthy and has white strands in his hair. He?s probably around 40 at this time since he?s 30 in in the rest of the film. I think him laughing at the end is him realizing Bruce is Batman

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

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Which is why I think they will probably make his joker the main joker in pat bat. They don?t have to get pheonix back just loosely tie it together. Leave it up to interpretation.

In the ending joker looks healthy and has white strands in his hair. He?s probably around 40 at this time since he?s 30 in in the rest of the film. I think him laughing at the end is him realizing Bruce is Batman

If they cannot get JP back they shouldnt do it. I believe he would come back though as long as the material is written well and the story is good but if they expect him take part in some poorly conceived story like a suicide squad and or change the jokers style too much it aint going to happen. If he does sign on as the main joker of the dceu then we know for sure the story is going to be good cause he wouldnt sign up otherwise. He will not take part in a mass market pocorn flick just for the sake of money its just not his style. I do however think there is enough goodwill built up between him and the studio since the part awarded him the oscar for best actor. I think he’d be willing to give it a shot but it has to be worthy of his high standards- which again is a good thing it forces the studio to come up with good material

 

[abake]

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I think WB is being actually pretty smart now...
They had a fledgling "universe" being built around Snyder's vision, but that bombed with JL's (and, to a minor extent, SS') course correction. So they focused on three stand-alone movies, which were all well received and made money (WW, Aquaman and Shazam) and which, crucially, did not interfere with MoS-BvS-JL continuity (Snyder being a producer in WW and Aquaman might have had something to do with that). Meanwhile, BoP moves forward to target to female audience, but doesn't do well.
With the change of the guard (Geoff out, Hamada in), WB decides to keep pursuing the solo route with Todd Phillips' Joker and Matt Reeves' Batman. Joker is a huge success, so now WB knows that if the movie is good, people don't mind "gritty", "dark" and "serious" in their comic book movies.
So basically, they can go ahead and make "solo" movies (but you can bet that if Pattman is a success it'll be a trilogy) with a more "auteur" approach, kinda like "else worlds". On the other hand, they have a rabid fan community clamouring for the SnyderCut. They give Snyder the money to finish his movie, which gives them red with the fans and the filmmakers, but also gives them buzz for their HBOMax deal, and maybe, just maybe, gets their DCEU back on track.
But not only that... they have cleverly opened the door to the multiverse idea with their TV shows, so basically, they have all the bases covered.
If the SnyderCut is a success and Affleck comes back, they can go back to that "Snyderverse", be it on the big screen or on their streaming service (and there's already some series being developed, if I'm not mistaken).
If Matt Reeves' Pattman is a success, they can go all out on a trilogy.
And they still have the multiverse card if Keaton does indeed come back.

So, all in all, there's enough to play around with.

 

[The Buffinator]

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WB might as well include the Nolan trilogy and throw in there Inception and Tenet....and **** it, The Prestige too.

Don't forget Memento. They'll say Guy Pearce's character morphed from this



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[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

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Lol forget letoker they will just retcon him into a joker follower that took control and assumed his identity while the real joker (The JP joker) was stuck in arkham. They already planted the seeds in the joker movie with all his rabid followers picking up the mask and wearing it. If i had to bet they will just say he was the original robin (jason todd) that wore the suit we saw in the batcave in bvs. Its can be their own spin on red hood story arc. Since johns completely ****ed up suicide squad the connection to robins death was omitted they can use johns **** up as a way to spin letokers joker any way they see fit. He can literally be anything In this universe accept for the real joker and they win. Kind of like how marvel is retconning the mandarin from iron man 3- so it wasnt the real manderin. The real one will show up in marvel’s shang chi movie

Its similar to disney and the problem with the st, if they just say its mirror-verse problem solved they win. They get a free second chance to redue it properly and people may even enjoy the current st more in the process as some crazy elseworlds story where the emperor didnt die and everything goes to ****

 

[The Buffinator]

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Lol forget letoker they will just retcon him into a joker follower that took control and assumed his identity while the real joker (The JP joker) was stuck in arkham. They already planted the seeds in the joker movie with all his rabid followers picking up the mask and wearing it. If i had to bet they will just say he was the original robin (jason todd) that wore the suit we saw in the batcave in bvs. Its can be their own spin on red hood story arc. Since johns completely ****ed up suicide squad the connection to robins death was omitted they can use johns **** up as a way to spin letokers joker any way they see fit. He can literally be anything In this universe accept for the real joker and they win.

Yes, WB/DC probably wish we all suffered from the same condition Pearce's character did, that way we'd forget Letoker ever happened. But then again, I already have very little memory of Leto's scenes in Suicide Squad. A lot of that is due to most of his work winding up on the cutting room floor. His HT figures have had a more lasting impression.

 

[Prime Clone]

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The latest comic-book Joker has shades of Jaroker/Letoker...

 

[Captain Clown]

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Not Damaged enough.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

The latest comic-book Joker has shades of Jaroker/Letoker...

What actual ****?

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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DC comics is just as bad as the movie division these days

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

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DC comics is just as bad as the movie division these days

Well the DC comic book animated movie division gets it right like 90% of the time, so there has to be a major disconnect somewhere within the animated movie group, the comic division and the motion picture division at DC. This is why it was smart for disney to control all star wars canon regardless if they use it properly- they have a group dedicated to reading all the various canon material with the sole purpose of making sure the various outlets (movies, movie novelizations, comic books and added supporting novels do not contradict themselves in a major way- it also keeps quality at a certain level in terms of stories written (not necessarily the movies). I believe things are heading in the right direction now (esp after dumping Johns) and hiring better people to oversee the film division, lets see if Warner/DC films can take advantage of the 2nd chance they have been given to right the ship or if they will blow it yet again.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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The latest comic-book Joker has shades of Jaroker/Letoker...

That **** makes me want to change my name.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

That **** makes me want to change my name.

 

[M United]

Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

Official black suit superman released.