Jazzinc 1/6 Batman 1989 Batmobile

lordnastrond said:

Some well made points here, I agree with some of what you're saying.

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Rondesmo said:

From FB

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GodParticle said:

I feel like they've all been that glossy

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davejames said:

I mean it's definitely preferable to the super flat plasticky look of the HT version.

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bman89 said:

Personally I prefer the “flat” look of the Hot Toys as that’s a closer representation of what the 89 (and 92) was. The lack of weathering does give it a “plasticky” look though. I was pleased to see the newly announced Hot Toys Batmissle has a much more realistic paint job with subtle weathering, even on the tires. It really looks like it’s been driving on the streets of Gotham.

I love the scale and shape of the Jazz but imho the addition of the gloss coating + silver mesh embellishments make it look more like a sleek sports car than the satin bulletproof tank portrayed on screen, and in the Jazz prototype. More James Bond than Batman, if that makes any sense. Regardless, it’s a unique interpretation. Happy for those who own it and are pleased with it.

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HanFiredFirst said:

Guess that's the beauty of having been able to cancel your pre-order. I'm personally really looking forward to getting mine, I love that gloss finish, looks bloody brilliant.

I'm also hugely encouraged by the fact that the manufacturer engages directly with the collectors, should there be any issues. Having had problems in the past with another manufacturer - who shall remain nameless, and who were awful to deal with - the customer support I've seen from Jazzinc so far is hugely reassuring.

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JazzInc said:

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Mondragon said:

Love that (Mego scale* ) first Appearance Batman figure, way in the background, looking over what his future will hold.

*I believe from 2000 Masterpiece Chronicle Book set.

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HanFiredFirst said:

Agree with some of what you say - but not all. I think you're overlooking the fact that Mr Mom has more skin in the game than simply being the recipient of two cars from Jazzinc that he's had issues with. He's a YouTuber, whose videos make him money. Once you're financially incentivised then you also "literally have an agenda with real financial stakes" - clicks and likes and subs and interaction earns you money, so it makes sense to make videos that people watch, and what better way to do that than post either beautifully shot content, or in the case of Mr Mom, post ANGRY and FURIOUS content?

Taking Mr Mom's views as honest and fair and unbiased is as dangerous as taking the manufacturer's word as gospel - both have skin in the game, so it's important to look beyond the words and the passion and see what lies underneath.

On the one hand you have a guy who bought a prototype, knowing (having been explicitly told by the manufacturer) that it wasn't a finalised version - that it would have early issues that would be resolved during production. Nevertheless, he paid for it, so you can expect it to have a decent level of QC. On finding himself unhappy with it, Jazzinc replaced the model at no charge. So far so good. However, Mr Mom has shown himself to be unhappy with the replacement - the dust I think we can dispense with, as that seems a minor (and odd) issue, but he had some real concerns with the gun turrets.

Now, at this point, a true (normal) customer would reach out to the manufacturer with some photos and a request for assistance... And this is where it gets murky. He didn't do that. He opened the replacement (very oddly, very strangely) in a storage facility, almost like he was expecting issues. You or I, we'd have been opening that up with kid gloves, in our dens or lounges or kitchens, excited to see what you'd hope would be a perfect model. So, spidey sense tingling a bit at this point of the video. What he doesn't do - Joost has confirmed and Mr Mom has also confirmed - is reach out to the manufacturer. No, what he does is post a video on YouTube. Then another one. All taking aim at Jazzinc, and latterly, Jazzinc's fans.

He dismisses anyone who defends Jazzinc of being either a "shill" or a "cult member" (again, his words). He pours gasoline on the flames by posting a really quite unnecessary YouTube diatribe reiterating his belief that Jazzinc's business model is wrong, its fans are toxic, its engagement with its customers as deeply flawed - at this point it all gets a bit vendetta-ish.

And on the other hand you have Jazzinc. We've already seen they shipped out a replacement, free of charge. That replacement has the issues we see in Mr Mom's videos - but I have to ask, how would Jazzinc know that, how could Jazzinc respond and deal with that, if the customer doesn't tell them? If the first they hear of it is via YouTube and via forums like this, where it's shared?

Mr Mom's anger is understandable - his actions are not. This thing costs a lot - with shipping you're looking at about £1500 / $2000. For that you expect something to arrive in perfect condition, and when it doesn't, you get support from the manufacturer - that's normal operating procedure - it's how we've all had to deal with issues we've had with models or figures. Now, if Mr Mom had done that, and Jazzinc had turned round and done nothing more than shrug, you'd have a reason to be pissed, but Jazzinc weren't contacted. We've heard from Jazzinc that they'd have replaced the turrets or the whole car ... if they'd been contacted.

If we "remove the anger and remove the ego", what you have is someone who got a sub-par product, then chose to post videos (plural) on YouTube (where he gets rewarded financially) attacking the manufacturer and the fanbase, rather than reach out to customer services.

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Bgnyc007 said:

I am eagerly waiting for a shipping notice. I guess I’m batch 2a eta November 30. I guess any day now but I cannot wait and would love to get it before the holiday nonsense begins lol.

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