Okay, I dont have any skin in this game, never ordered this Batmobile though I was on the waitlist for a while - but I watched those videos and read those comments folks are talking about and frankly I agree with this Mr Mom guy [whose videos I literally only learned about a few months ago].
The paint and plastic warping issues are bad, no one should be
grateful to recieve a product that is anything less than in mint and perfect condition especially at this price point. I also agree that its odd and off putting that it arrives so filthy.
The fact that this was his second car with the same amount of issues isnt great and he is right to complain and include that experience in his reviews - its being honest.
These may not be deal-breakers to any of you, but it will be for some people and more to the point the man paid money for a product he isnt happy with and he has every right to say so.
And as for Catwoman, as
@dominishin rightly states, it ISNT normal for a figure to be
by design so different from its prototype to its final product. The body will be entirely different, yes you may say better - but that is an assumption being made based on faith and nothing more, there will be a PERS system implemented on the heads and we all here know that PERS can alter a likeness depending on how its executed, the Battle-Damaged suit shown in the protos will be different on the final product, the claws shown in the proto pics are the full metal custom ones which will not be implemented in the final product....
This is not normal and its not unreasonable to call it out.
Yes folks here like to research and keep up on such things but again it is NOT a reasonable assumption to say everyone who is buying this figure is aware of all this, after all this figure has supposedly sold incredibly well in all the shops its available - I doubt every one of those customers are either here or on the Facebook group reading all the right posts to learn this information.
As for calling his criticisms of the Catwoman pre-order model, wherein the prototype shown will be entirely different from the one finally sold, "deranged" or "absurd" is displaying the EXACT cult like behavior he describes, its just a completely irrational and emotional based response to attack someone who, and again I will quote you directly here, "slander" Joost/Jazzinc.
This is no different from the Hot Toys fanatics or Inart fanatics who act like those companies can do no wrong and seem to get personally offended if someone says they are not happy about one of those companies or challenges one of their buisness practices.
These are companies selling expensive movie dolls and accessories to adults, they are not your friends - you are their customers, you owe them no loyalty and you certainly dont need to white knight on their behalf and make criticism of the products impossible or a toxic environment.
Im on Jazzincs Facebook group and it gets extremely toxic, as in positive toxicity, to the extent Joost himself had to call attention to it.
Mr Mom is calling out a real thing, none of this is imagined or overblown and frankly a few of you here are showing that exact same mindset.
@Mike86 is right - if another company had the kind of issues we see with Jazzinc you wouldnt hear the end of it, but people play favourites and sometimes they let Inart or Hot Toys get away with shoddy execution or sometimes they rake them over the coals for the smallest perceived faults, as customers we need to be objective and fair there is no good reason for this to become tribal.
And as buisness models go - yes I agree with the voting in the Facebook group criticisms, its like
@ZE_501 calls it - inaccurate sampling.
I've participated in voting because its exciting and makes you feel included, but on retrospect its just not worth doing for all the problems it causes.
So no, Im not seeing an agenda in Mr Moms videos and Im coming at this from the outside as someone with ZERO stakes or interest in this drama.
Whereas Joost
literally has an agenda with real financial stakes in undermining Mr Mom, and folks like him, negative takes on his products - something to consider.
So the name calling, the vitriol, the genuine hatred I am seeing here for someone who seems to have had a ****** experience buying a product does seem to confirm quite a bit of the behavior he is calling out.
But again, you dont need to take his word for it - Joost himself had to call out this behavior on his Facebook page
Which is why I find it so disappointing to see him encourage it here.
Yeah Mr Mom seems angry - but frankly if people spoke about me the way some of your here are doing I'd be tempted to get a little angry too.
Same could just as easily apply to Joost if he seems angry about this subject.
Which is precisely why we need to remove emotion and ego from these sort of discussions and review spaces.
Ive bought from Jazzinc before, I love the ones I have, and I may very well buy from him again - but not because of brand loyalty or some other emotional ties but because I like the product, if I ever recieve a product from them I am not happy with I will call it out.
Same with Hot Toys, same with Inart, same with any company.
We are not fans.
We are customers.
