1/6 Hot Toys - Iron Man 3: MMS197D02 Mark XLII Diecast Series Official Spec/Pics

[lerath666]

Here's another thing that I've been wondering: how well would the die-cast Ironmen (Mk.42 and Iron Patriot) fare up by having them in static standing poses on the standard Hot Toys crotch-holder (black) stand? I guess that's a question we'll only be able to answer once SOMEONE gets one of these in-hand...

All my other 6 Marks (1-2, 4-6) are on those stands (even the soon-to-be Mk.7 comes with one), and I'd like to keep the displayed collection consistent even with the Iron Patriot, Mk.42 and eventual Mk.3...

Metal rods on painted diecast may cause chipping. Be wary. Additionaly, no garintee that the old stand will support the added weight.

Hey guy, I have seen asking this question many times but never received a proper answer. So I will ask until I get the answer I am looking for. What is the different with the die-cast version and the regular MMS version? Any chance HT going to make IM I-VII in die-cast?

NO news on this yet. I'm wondering the same.

How does the material its made of make it *look* more realistic?

we're talking about painted parts, gloss red looks gloss red regardless of if its metal or plastic underneath.

and given we're talking about scaled versions, any small details on the original 1:1 object are harder to reproduce when done in diecast metal.

if anything a plastic version would *look* better.

Look? no idea. I think it has to do with the type of paint used on diecast. but not certian.
Though, from whatI read, it's more about improved articulation ( diecast IS hardier) and added weight.

I have read several blanket statements in this and and the IP thread that the paint will not adhere to the metal pieces of these diecast figures as well as it does on plastic and over time it will chip. That may be true with all things being equal but for all we know Hot Toys has developed a special bonding agent that will be applied to the metal piece before the paint is applied allowing it to adhere better to the metal surface.
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While it's a nice sentiment, it's not very likely. you'd think that in over the 100 years that people have been painting diecast, someoen else would have figured that out already.

 

[Crimsonbob]

Unless the rod is fixed solidly to a heavy wide base i cant see it securely holding 1.5kg in a hovering/flying pose. My MKIV is ok on his 1 but my C Reeve Superman 1 even leans over a bit under his weight.

 

[SkyIScrape]

Unless the rod is fixed solidly to a heavy wide base i cant see it securely holding 1.5kg in a hovering/flying pose. My MKIV is ok on his 1 but my C Reeve Superman 1 even leans over a bit under his weight.

I think it also has to do with the pose, but mostly the rod. I have my Mark V in one of the positions from the promo photos and the rod had a very noticeable bend in it. I thought it was really weird considering he seems to be the lightest Iron Man. My Mark VI was in a more balanced pose and he only bent the rod a little bit.

 

[Spanbauer]

I would imagine Hot Toys are done with Iron Man announcements for a while. I bet they'll hold out on War Machine until they can see and incorporate some of the features/gimmicks from the film - and so he doesn't take away from Iron Patriot sales.

 

[Viper245]

Metal rods on painted diecast may cause chipping. Be wary. Additionaly, no garintee that the old stand will support the added weight.



NO news on this yet. I'm wondering the same.



Look? no idea. I think it has to do with the type of paint used on diecast. but not certian.
Though, from whatI read, it's more about improved articulation ( diecast IS hardier) and added weight.




While it's a nice sentiment, it's not very likely. you'd think that in over the 100 years that people have been painting diecast, someoen else would have figured that out already.

How many high end diecast collectibles that sell for hundreds of dollars retail have been produced over that 100 years? I am not talking about a $10 Matchbox car or $6 diecast figure that is sold in every Target and WalMart in the county. Obviously companies aren't going to invest that kind of R&D in their manufacturing process with such low price points.

I am not saying that Hot Toys is either but what I am saying is we don't know how these will be manufactured but the postulating continues that they will easily chip and turn to rubbish in a year's time. I don't buy it unless there is some factual evidence from similarly priced diecast collectibles where this has happened.

 

[lerath666]

ok, how about The entire takra masterpiece transformers line excluding starscream, and anything that came after grimlock?


Additionaly, hot toys dosn't have a good track record with new ideas.
People have been using rubber bodies for years, and ALL of them eventualy rot, and fall apart.
Youd think if they were more concerned with RnD, they would have found a solutin to that before releasing ANY.

I'm not saying they haven't cracked it, but the historical data is not exactly on their side.

 

[The Ween]

Makes sense. Since I just discovered the Play Imaginative figure, I recently posted the specs on it. And they credit Adi for the packaging artwork too.


Play Imaginative Specs

Comprises of at least 88% die-cast metal alloy
Die-cast metal mask, torso, arms, & legs
Battery operated lights for ARC Reactor, eyes
& palm areas (batteries included)
Magnetised feet automatically activate
Hall of Armor lights when placed in position
Armored figurine with 50 points of articulation
Ball-jointed shoulders for full range of
arm movements
Double-jointed body, bendable at upper torso
Fully articulated hands and fingers
Comes with a figure stand
Packaging artwork by Adi Granov

I'm not that impressed with that figure. Of the pictures I've seen, it's got a cartoonie look to it.

 

[SkyIScrape]

I would imagine Hot Toys are done with Iron Man announcements for a while. I bet they'll hold out on War Machine until they can see and incorporate some of the features/gimmicks from the film - and so he doesn't take away from Iron Patriot sales.

Agreed about War Machine, but don't forget about the Mark III. It's pretty highly-anticipated if our community is any sort of indication, and I would expect an announcement when the HOA sets are about to ship, maybe May or June.

 

[Apone]

Cant wait for diecast Hulk

 

[subzro]

Agreed about War Machine, but don't forget about the Mark III. It's pretty highly-anticipated if our community is any sort of indication, and I would expect an announcement when the HOA sets are about to ship, maybe May or June.

This is HT we are talking about. The PO for the MKIII is probably 12 to 18 months away.

 

[SkyIScrape]

This is HT we are talking about. The PO for the MKIII is probably 12 to 18 months away.

What? It may ship that many months after the PO goes out, but this last string of POs should make everyone optimistic about the impending release of a new Mark III. This is the Iron Man franchise we're talking about, not X-Men or Spiderman.

 

[Viper245]

ok, how about The entire takra masterpiece transformers line excluding starscream, and anything that came after grimlock?


Additionaly, hot toys dosn't have a good track record with new ideas.
People have been using rubber bodies for years, and ALL of them eventualy rot, and fall apart.
Youd think if they were more concerned with RnD, they would have found a solutin to that before releasing ANY.

I'm not saying they haven't cracked it, but the historical data is not exactly on their side.

I did a Google search on the line you mentioned and found complaints that had much more to do with build quality of the various parts of the figures then paint chipping plus I could never find anything that said they were even diecast.


You have a point about the rubber bodies but I don't believe Hot Toys uses them near as much as they used to. The proof will be once these figures start shipping and people get them in hand and can comment on them. If they turn out to be garbage then I will just return mine and move on and Hot Toys will have a colossal failure on their hands. I don't think that will be the case unless new information comes to light to prove otherwise. Until either event happens all the doom and gloom talk about the paint chipping on the diecast pieces is speculation and hyperbole at best even though some state it as fact.

 

[Spanbauer]

This is HT we are talking about. The PO for the MKIII is proably 12 to 18 months away.

Haha, and shipping in 2018...

As slow as Hot Toys is at actually shipping product, I just don't see them doing the 15 Iron Man 3 figures claimed. The Mark XLII already doesn't get released until February 2014 - at this rate they won't be able to ship six figures before they have to start producing Avengers 2 figures.

Remember how Hot Toys announced in January 2012 that they'd be making 1:6 scale and 1:4 scale figures from Predator, Predator 2, Predators, AvP and AvP2? Over a year later and we have a single released 1:6 scale figure and not even one announced 1:4 scale figure. Oh yeah, and they're supposedly doing 1:4 scale figures from Avengers as well, right?

They still haven't shipped all of the 1:6 scale Avengers figures from last year.

 

[FreedomGundam]

Not sure why you think they wouldn't be perfectly fine.

Metal rods on painted diecast may cause chipping. Be wary. Additionaly, no garintee that the old stand will support the added weight.

This is where I'm going at. I'm a little less concerned that the metal rods would chip the paint on the diecast (that's easily prevented), but I am wondering if the crotch-holder would be able to support the weight properly.

Though if current all-plastic Ironmen are any indication, I'm presuming that, by design, the die-cast ones would likely be able to support their own weight and stand relatively balanced on their own when in a static standing-statue pose, with no stand. A crotch-holder stand in this situation would probably provide adequate additional support.

 

[Mix Master]

Haha, and shipping in 2018...

As slow as Hot Toys is at actually shipping product, I just don't see them doing the 15 Iron Man 3 figures claimed. The Mark XLII already doesn't get released until February 2014 - at this rate they won't be able to ship six figures before they have to start producing Avengers 2 figures.

Remember how Hot Toys announced in January 2012 that they'd be making 1:6 scale and 1:4 scale figures from Predator, Predator 2, Predators, AvP and AvP2? Over a year later and we have a single released 1:6 scale figure and not even one announced 1:4 scale figure. Oh yeah, and they're supposedly doing 1:4 scale figures from Avengers as well, right?

They still haven't shipped all of the 1:6 scale Avengers figures from last year.

never thought about that, you are right

 

[lerath666]

The Old MP figures used a mix of plastic and diecast.

The chest windows, and legs on prime.

Megatron feet ( which rust)

Grimlock's chest. etc

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RE: MP-01 IS NOT OUT OF SCALE by fenrir72 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:45 pm Motto: "Power to the strong and the right!" Weapon: Plasma Cannon For its time he was the epitome of awesomeness. Fast forward nearly a decade.........different design team, improved technology etc. If I have any complaints with MP-01, its the freakin' thin layer of paint. Mine is chipping off like dandruff despite my TLC. Both, which I own (Takara versions) are excellent representations of their animation counterparts.

I DO want to say, I HOPE i'm wrong. If not, like you, Back it will go....
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If I decide to perchase THE answer in the first place.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

This is HT we are talking about. The PO for the MKIII is probably 12 to 18 hours away.

Fixed

 

[Gully Foyle]

Chinese diecast translates to zinc with lead impurities.
Even if the Chinese somehow turn it around with their metallurgy (not likely)

/\ So much this.

The "OMG diecast bruh!" crowd seems unaware that diecast is merely zinc alloy.
Pot metal.
It's not substantially more expensive than plastics (and actually cheaper than some ABS plastics.)

But materials science and metallurgy take a backseat to a shiny new gimmick, I guess.

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[Gully Foyle]

I found their past Iron Man figures to be an unpleasant experience, due to their frail plastic hollow bodies and parts falling off left and right should you so much as look at them. Compared to say a Batman figure - where the suit feels like how it looks - or one of their Predator figures - which have an impressive mass to them - the Iron Man figures have always been disappointing.

Fair enough. Mileage varies.
The tactile aspect of a Hot Toys figure doesn't rank very high on my list of expectations.
I don't hold them that much (and in fact try to minimize their wear from handling).
The visual appearance and articulation are what make them pieces of art to me.

Definitely not. Most of my figures are still sitting in their shelves with the same pose from 6 months to a few years.

You've misunderstood. My point was that most Hot Toys MMS figures get posed and then sit in display most of the time. Thus, the heft of the figure becomes inconsequential.

Unless one wears these things around their neck, their weight is rarely noticed. As you say, once a preferred pose is found, they can remain untouched for years.

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[Spanbauer]

/\ So much this.

The "OMG diecast bruh!" crowd seems unaware that diecast is merely zinc alloy.
Pot metal.
It's not substantially more expensive than plastics (and actually cheaper than some ABS plastics.)

But materials science and metallurgy take a backseat to a shiny new gimmick, I guess.

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All I know is that the frail, hollow, chinsy plastic iron man figures released so far are a dissapointment in hand. I'm happy to see Hot Toys working to improve in that regard and I'm willing to give die cast a chance.