1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Star Wars: Episode VII - Han & Chewbacca Collectible Figure

[SilverStar17]

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He's in both of the next two films.

Are you sure?

Can't trust the contracts any more.

Well, he's signed for both. I suppose that's not an iron clad guarantee. If the creative process goes in another direction it's possible he won't appear in the next two, but you better believe he'll get PAID for the next two! Just like when you decide to let your "star" quarterback go in the third year of a five year contract...

Most people are leaning towards the idea of Han appearing in flashbacks as they try to tell the story of Kylo and Rey. No chance they'd put him in a cool new outfit and try to sell another figure though, that would just be shameless profiteering.

Should it really be a mystery in what capacity he will be appearing?

I just don't see the appeal of this.

Since its playing off the nostalgia of the original, why not get the original pair? TFA toys won't be worth squat in a few years.

I would agree. Although as QGF mentioned, if the sculpt holds up through production and comes out looking phenomenal, I think there's many people that will probably sell their ANH Hans in favor of TFA Han.

That just presumably leaves ESB and RotJ Han.

 

[davejames]

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Yeah I'm leaning towards this idea as well. I mean TFA in its own right was a big blockbuster and admittedly did much much better than the almost forgettable prequels (and a lot of what is memorable isn't great). But nothing can match the Original Trilogy. And like I said, Empire Strikes Back is THE Star Wars movie for me. I could watch that one over and over and not the others. Defines the characters, the Rebillion, Empire the best to me. TFA was good...but didn't really inspire me or tickle my creativity Iike Empire. I limit my figures and have basically just Fetts(4 versions), Stormtrooper, Snowtrooper, Clone trooper, Vader...so all bad guys. But I think I'll make room for one hero...Chewie. Too great of a figure and character. I could pass on the human characters as much as I love them. But Chewbacca is an amazing character and figure.


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Yeah I agree TFA wasn't at the level of the OT storywise, and just didn't feel nearly as special and epic as I always imagined an Episode VII would... but I still thought the characters worked incredibly well, and captured more than enough of the OT spirit. And so that's the main reason I'm interested in collecting some of these figures, more than anything else.

And hell, just the chance to see Harrison Ford play Han again kinda makes the whole movie worth it in my view.

 

[SilverStar17]

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Yeah I agree TFA wasn't at the level of the OT storywise, and just didn't feel nearly as special and epic as I always imagined an Episode VII would... but I still thought the characters worked incredibly well, and captured more than enough of the OT spirit. And so that's the main reason I'm interested in collecting some of these figures, more than anything else.

And hell, just the chance to see Harrison Ford play Han again kinda makes the whole thing worth it in my view.

My sentiments as well.

With the OT, the majority of my figures are ANH based. With the NT, the majority of my figures will likely be TFA based.

 

[Getoninja]

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I just don't see the appeal of this.

Since its playing off the nostalgia of the original, why not get the original pair? TFA toys won't be worth squat in a few years.

Cause everyone is different and buy what they like whether they own ANH, enjoy the TFA, like the figures them self or have a fetish for furry creatures, or the heck knows.
I'm not a fan of TFA but I do love how these figures came out, reason why I'm buying them.
And I could care less about value in the future. I don't collect figures for investment or if they are limited, I buy piece's cause I like them.
But if these guys end up on clearance for super cheap, then I wouldn't mind picking up a few Chewbaccas and make a custom Wookie army.

and I agree, lots of TFA toys have dropped in price to even below retail, lots of hypeposers. Kinda reminds me of the crash of the POTF 2 toys

 

[bebe13junior]

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Yeah I agree TFA wasn't at the level of the OT storywise, and just didn't feel nearly as special and epic as I always imagined an Episode VII would... but I still thought the characters worked incredibly well, and captured more than enough of the OT spirit. And so that's the main reason I'm interested in collecting some of these figures, more than anything else.

And hell, just the chance to see Harrison Ford play Han again kinda makes the whole movie worth it in my view.

No you are right there. And it is the best acting of any of the Star Wars movies. I thought Kylo Ren was an amazing new character who brought a more dynamic approach to the Dark Side and the inner conflict. Again it is extremely fun and watchable, I just was disappointed in some places. Didn't wow me... And it isn't even from the rehash or original trilogy best hits perspective. But I think it needed to get over that first movie and give ppl something fun and familiar and lay the ground work for more original future films. But we will see.






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[cmiller99]

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Should it really be a mystery in what capacity he will be appearing?

That doesn't make any sense in the established canon.

 

[Futurion]

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He's in both of the next two films.

Really? His appearance in TFA was under condition that his character will (finally) die as Ford wanted forever ago before RoTJ.

 

[TaliBane]

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I just don't see the appeal of this.

Since its playing off the nostalgia of the original, why not get the original pair? TFA toys won't be worth squat in a few years.

TFA was huge because the "return of Star Wars!" always is, and because international BO is staggeringly massive these days, and because Disney makes things huge by sheer marketing muscle, but yeah - TFA itself just isn't going to be an enduring classic the way the OT is.

Most fans don't remember how deeply all the OT SW characters penetrated the culture at a time when marketing couldn't buy that kind of attention and adoration.

But I think seeing Han and Luke old as figures is sort of nostalgic in some way - not sure why exactly. Maybe seeing Luke become Ben. I really wanted TFA Luke most, but I think maybe it's Luke and Han now. They're the only TFA merchandise I've even contemplated buying.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

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It really depends on why you collect in the first place. If you’re just collecting as an investment (as ill advised as that is), then no, TFA Han is not a good idea. If you just want one figure to represent Han for the entire SW saga, then I’m not so sure I would go with TFA Han either. I think ANH Han is a better overall representation even if the sculpt isn’t as good. If, however, you simply love the Han character, liked how he was portrayed in TFA, or just flat out enjoyed TFA, then SURE! Why not? I’m getting Old Han for those reasons: I love the character, love how he was in TFA, and loved the movie.

 

[Tauntaun Han]

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This is the only figure I am interested in with the TFA because I collect Ford and it looks fantastic so far. Although my jawas are clamoring for another droid so BB8 will be hard to resist. Gotta keep the little guys happy.

 

[Hoody999]

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Hahaha. Are you kidding me. Chewy looks like he's been at the dentist and got a bit too much aesthetic. If he could dribble he would.....

I did a quick temporary mouth mod on my ANH chewbacca. Closed the mouth more. I think he looks better.

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[Cap'n Cook]

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Hahaha. Are you kidding me. Chewy looks like he's been at the dentist and got a bit too much aesthetic. If he could dribble he would.....

That's surely a compliment then?......

 

[BuGz]

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Hahaha. Are you kidding me. Chewy looks like he's been at the dentist and got a bit too much aesthetic. If he could dribble he would.....

It's only a temporary thing like I said. A quick fix. The opened mouth on chewie including the eyes is what let's the figure down. The rest of him is a work of art!

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[Hoody999]

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No but seriously, they certainly nailed Old Han this time. I'm sure they didn't like what happened on Kimmel when Harrison Ford demolished the figure. Seems like they worked really hard on this one. It's amazing.

With Chewie I was at first a bit put off, but the more I look at the photos, the more I like him. I think the lighter coloured hair also gives more contrast. A lot of the original got lost in the dark hair. Who knows maybe Wookies hair goes blond instead of grey when they get old ??

I think I might even get this Chewie. Am sure with the moveable jaw it will help, and with the inevitable futzing to get it just right.

They may even be able to make some modifications based on comments from forums like this. However I haven't read many comments on what specifically could be improved on Chewie. The more I look at it the harder it is for me to say what is wrong. But I'd like to hear what others have to say.

 

[Tom Day]

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TFA was huge because the "return of Star Wars!" always is, and because international BO is staggeringly massive these days, and because Disney makes things huge by sheer marketing muscle, but yeah - TFA itself just isn't going to be an enduring classic the way the OT is.

Most fans don't remember how deeply all the OT SW characters penetrated the culture at a time when marketing couldn't buy that kind of attention and adoration.

But I think seeing Han and Luke old as figures is sort of nostalgic in some way - not sure why exactly. Maybe seeing Luke become Ben. I really wanted TFA Luke most, but I think maybe it's Luke and Han now. They're the only TFA merchandise I've even contemplated buying.

I remember it! When I was at primary school Star Wars dominated our lives.

I think the future view of TFA and its figures will depend on how good the next two movies are. If they're not as good then I think TFA will suffer too. If one of them turns out to be the ESB of the ST then people will go back to TFA and view it in a better light. Rey is already iconic just because of Daisy's performance. If Poe, Finn and Kylo Ren continue to grow as characters then people will want the new versions of them but also go back and buy earlier versions they skipped, then the completist urge will make them want Han.

 

[TonTon]

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I don't think most of us expected it to recapture the OT just because the OT cast was in it (at times). I just hoped it would be a good Star Wars movie, enjoyable in a way that the PT wasn't. It wasn't until I came on here that I realized so many people disliked ROTJ.

And I think Tom is right with Rey. So far she is the best SW character/performance since the OT. Even though the character has some issues, for me she's already better than any PT characters introduced, but it's still early to say how the trajectories of these characters/movies will be. The fact is there has been nothing since Star Wars/Empire by any movie franchise. That magic clearly cannot be created especially when they are now continuing the saga within that world.

 

[rogers985]

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Anyone think I would get away with getting this chewie to go with my ANH Han Solo?
My apologies if this has already been asked and answered!


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[Wor-Gar]

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But I think seeing Han and Luke old as figures is sort of nostalgic in some way - not sure why exactly. Maybe seeing Luke become Ben.

Everyone became Ben -- Han is "Ben" to Rey in TFA, Luke is "Ben" to Rey in VIII, and even Kylo's real name is Ben.

I'm Ben'd out.

 

[TaliBane]

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I remember it! When I was at primary school Star Wars dominated our lives.

I think the future view of TFA and its figures will depend on how good the next two movies are. If they're not as good then I think TFA will suffer too. If one of them turns out to be the ESB of the ST then people will go back to TFA and view it in a better light. Rey is already iconic just because of Daisy's performance. If Poe, Finn and Kylo Ren continue to grow as characters then people will want the new versions of them but also go back and buy earlier versions they skipped, then the completist urge will make them want Han.

I don't think most of us expected it to recapture the OT just because the OT cast was in it (at times). I just hoped it would be a good Star Wars movie, enjoyable in a way that the PT wasn't. It wasn't until I came on here that I realized so many people disliked ROTJ.

And I think Tom is right with Rey. So far she is the best SW character/performance since the OT. Even though the character has some issues, for me she's already better than any PT characters introduced, but it's still early to say how the trajectories of these characters/movies will be. The fact is there has been nothing since Star Wars/Empire by any movie franchise. That magic clearly cannot be created especially when they are now continuing the saga within that world.

Oh, I really enjoyed TFA as both a film and a fun SW event too, but Rey or Finn just aren't even close to the same category of intense fandom and fascination as Luke or Han were in the 70's/80's. The OT bullseyed something deep in the culture. And Kylo Vs Vader is a bit like Muhammed Ali Vs. (insert whoever current heavyweight title holder is.)

The OT characters instantly hit like a hurricane in 1977 and held the public's intense fascination for a decade - then returned as classic icons years later. Finn and Rey and Poe are fine as characters, some nice moments/interactions etc., but their penetration into the public consciousness/fascination has been pretty minor and they won't be on the general public's list of favorite characters once the ST hype has passed.

We live in an era where characters can be forced down people's throats in the supermarket, dentist, you name it, so their "bought" profile can be mistaken for significance or popularity. The classic characters eventually had that saturation too - but it was because supply was precipitated by intense demand, not mostly manufactured demand fueling supply like today.

SW is arguably the most powerful entertainment brand name in the world, and Disney the best company in the world at selling brand names (and molding perception - it was interesting to watch how they handled negative reviews of TFA) - and TFA was positioned accordingly, making it hard to separate what was actually good, and what felt good simply because it was a pitch-perfectly sold nostalgia trip.

And... were there any "characters" in the PT? Let me try to remember...

 

[Spallesc]

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I'm Ben'd out.

Better than Ben'd over. I know, that was terrible! Just couldn't resist Wor! Although going to feel Ben'd over to pay even more for this new set! Ah SSC, shaking head!