1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Star Wars: Episode VII - Han & Chewbacca Collectible Figure

[TaliBane]

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Everyone became Ben -- Han is "Ben" to Rey in TFA, Luke is "Ben" to Rey in VIII, and even Kylo's real name is Ben.

I'm Ben'd out.

Ah, but only one of them had the crumbs-in beard.

 

[davejames]

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I don't think most of us expected it to recapture the OT just because the OT cast was in it (at times). I just hoped it would be a good Star Wars movie, enjoyable in a way that the PT wasn't. It wasn't until I came on here that I realized so many people disliked ROTJ.

And I think Tom is right with Rey. So far she is the best SW character/performance since the OT. Even though the character has some issues, for me she's already better than any PT characters introduced, but it's still early to say how the trajectories of these characters/movies will be. The fact is there has been nothing since Star Wars/Empire by any movie franchise. That magic clearly cannot be created especially when they are now continuing the saga within that world.

Yeah I've never understood the hate for ROTJ either. It's obviously not at the same level as the first two movies, but it's still got fun and dynamic characters you actually still care about and action that is more thrilling than anything we saw in the prequels, at least in my book.

And who knows, with the deeper and darker direction the sequel trilogy seems to be going, fans may look back at the lighter and simpler TFA with a lot more appreciation in future years.

 

[Wor-Gar]

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Better than Ben'd over.

Good one.



And I agree with Talibane, and would go one step further and say that no single original movie has since hit with such and force and resonated like Star Wars did since '77. I mean the proof is right here -- in our hobby and in this discussion. Kids today can't really imagine the impact, since every summer has its intended "impact" films and blockbusters and once in a while there's a genuine "hit" out of it.

Batman and the Marvel films perform but their resonance is already well established. Star Wars just came out of left field...

I fear branding will continue to keep creativity out of left field.

 

[Sithblade]

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Everyone became Ben -- Han is "Ben" to Rey in TFA, Luke is "Ben" to Rey in VIII, and even Kylo's real name is Ben.

I'm Ben'd out.

These are also all bend'em out.

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[Cocoboloboy]

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I just finished the Audible version of this book. If you want a very interesting, broad and extensive look at SW from beginning to right before Ep7 this is it.

 

[Futurion]

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Han does look pretty awesome in that cockpit pic.

And I can't believe I only just realized that we never got to see Han and Chewie piloting the Falcon together in TFA. It was always either Han and Rey or Chewie and Rey.

Not true, you can see them both piloting Falcon in the scene while they are jumping to Starkiller base

 

[davejames]

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Oh damn, totally forgot about that.

 

[TonTon]

1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Star Wars: Episode VII - Han & Chewbacca Collectible Figure

Oh, I really enjoyed TFA as both a film and a fun SW event too, but Rey or Finn just aren't even close to the same category of intense fandom and fascination as Luke or Han were in the 70's/80's. The OT bullseyed something deep in the culture. And Kylo Vs Vader is a bit like Muhammed Ali Vs. (insert whoever current heavyweight title holder is.)

The OT characters instantly hit like a hurricane in 1977 and held the public's intense fascination for a decade - then returned as classic icons years later. Finn and Rey and Poe are fine as characters, some nice moments/interactions etc., but their penetration into the public consciousness/fascination has been pretty minor and they won't be on the general public's list of favorite characters once the ST hype has passed.

We live in an era where characters can be forced down people's throats in the supermarket, dentist, you name it, so their "bought" profile can be mistaken for significance or popularity. The classic characters eventually had that saturation too - but it was because supply was precipitated by intense demand, not mostly manufactured demand fueling supply like today.

And... were there any "characters" in the PT? Let me try to remember...

Maul is the only new character from the PT to resonate and I think he resonates on a Boba Fett level. Kenobi/McGregor was good but he was already good in ANH. There was no one in the PT as iconic as Luke, Vader, Han, Leia.

I think you're being quick to dismiss Rey/Daisy (not gonna put Finn in the same league) as we don't really know what her journey impact will be. But I could be wrong too. I think what's for sure is that the folks it will affect/stick with are not the 30-50 year olds but more likely younger kids.

I think the other problem is that this isn't a new movie--it's literally the seventh episode of a huge saga where none of it is new anymore. How can a lightsaber duel be that exciting when there have already been 2 dozen in the movies already. Space battles? I still don't think the trench run and Han's Empire chase will be topped.

The movies have to follow the tropes already laid out or they'll be questioned as illegitimate--I know I questioned tons of aspects in the prequels, (super hero like abilities for the Jedi), so it's unfair to expect any new SW flick to have he same impact as SW and Empire. I'm throwing empire in there because I think Yoda and the mysticism of the force was really expanded in a way that built off the first film and put it at a higher level. I have the impression that Yoda is thought of in the popular consciousness more so than Kenobi.

It's also just possible as Wor said that there just isn't the chance for anything to resonate the way Star Wars did in this over saturated world with trilogies all over the place--wasn't SW one of the first?

 

[Wor-Gar]

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It's also just possible as Wor said that there just isn't the chance for anything to resonate the way Star Wars did in this over saturated world with trilogies all over the place--wasn't SW one of the first?

Other than Bond and Rocky, yes. Nowadays, you can't make a movie without thinking sequel, franchise, multiple contracts, etc.

 

[Stryker2011]

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Other than Bond and Rocky, yes. Nowadays, you can't make a movie without thinking sequel, franchise, multiple contracts, etc.

Don't forget merchandise. Most of the movies made today, when it comes to super-hero, sci-fI & fantasy, as enjoyable as they can be, are little more than 2-hour toy commercials.

 

[subzro]

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Don't forget merchandise. Most of the movies made today, when it comes to super-hero, sci-fI & fantasy, as enjoyable as they can be, are little more than 2-hour toy commercials.

It works, so many of us get on here after seeing a movie hoping that HT makes a figure of some character we loved

 

[QuiGonFishing]

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It's gonna take a bit of work, but I think there's a lot of futz potential here. In the right hands, I think this Chewie can be a serious winner...

 

[davejames]

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If only there were a way to pry the nose off and position it a bit further down, that would clearly help the likeness a lot.

 

[TaliBane]

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Maul is the only new character from the PT to resonate and I think he resonates on a Boba Fett level. Kenobi/McGregor was good but he was already good in ANH. There was no one in the PT as iconic as Luke, Vader, Han, Leia.

I think you're being quick to dismiss Rey/Daisy (not gonna put Finn in the same league) as we don't really know what her journey impact will be. But I could be wrong too. I think what's for sure is that the folks it will affect/stick with are not the 30-50 year olds but more likely younger kids.

I think the other problem is that this isn't a new movie--it's literally the seventh episode of a huge saga where none of it is new anymore. How can a lightsaber duel be that exciting when there have already been 2 dozen in the movies already. Space battles? I still don't think the trench run and Han's Empire chase will be topped.

The movies have to follow the tropes already laid out or they'll be questioned as illegitimate--I know I questioned tons of aspects in the prequels, (super hero like abilities for the Jedi), so it's unfair to expect any new SW flick to have he same impact as SW and Empire. I'm throwing empire in there because I think Yoda and the mysticism of the force was really expanded in a way that built off the first film and put it at a higher level. I have the impression that Yoda is thought of in the popular consciousness more so than Kenobi.

It's also just possible as Wor said that there just isn't the chance for anything to resonate the way Star Wars did in this over saturated world with trilogies all over the place--wasn't SW one of the first?

Yeah, I guess Maul's bit like Fett - his appeal is more about how he looks than what he does (though Fett was the bad dude who did in our man Solo) - but I'd argue the fascination/obsession with Fett is way beyond Maul, and (unscientifically) Fett seems more popular on merchandise of the past decade than Maul.

And in all honesty, there were a ton of new things they could have done that would have been SW in-universe for TFA. I think they really just wanted to broadly stick to nostalgia - a way to play it safe given the PT reaction.

It's a cop-out to look at the fairly derivative nature of TFA (story, visuals, design) and say that's because the Star Wars universe is basically all done in terms of new stuff - types of battles, environments, etc. There's a lot of things they could have done, but they chose things like a Hoth/Death Star hybrid with an unused "SW lore" name fans would know. But yeah, ultimately it is the 30-50 year olds who drove a lot of the BO (esp repeat) for the movie, so safe/nostalgia was a good choice.

And re: Rey she doesn't seem to have caught the popular imagination like say Katniss did (the last "new" female lead to reach pop culture heights,) but I guess yeah see how she grows in the next one. Maybe then there'll be Rey fan fiction.

Other than Bond and Rocky, yes. Nowadays, you can't make a movie without thinking sequel, franchise, multiple contracts, etc.

There was a day when original films like Terminator, Raiders, Gremlins and BTTF came out of nowhere, but those days pretty much died with the 1990's when the corporate takeover of studios was completed and we started to get the Oreo variation model for films.

Now it's like Gremlins for real - classic old movies have their limitless evil progeny. Ugh - just watched Genisys.

 

[Wor-Gar]

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Don't forget merchandise. Most of the movies made today, when it comes to super-hero, sci-fI & fantasy, as enjoyable as they can be, are little more than 2-hour toy commercials.

Yep. Star Wars did that too.

There was a day when original films like Terminator, Raiders, Gremlins and BTTF came out of nowhere, but those days pretty much died with the 1990's when the corporate takeover of studios was completed and we started to get the Oreo variation model for films.

Yeah, the 80's are going to be looked back upon for a very long time. Kind of like the way we look back at the 60's for music.

 

[TonTon]

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And in all honesty, there were a ton of new things they could have done that would have been SW in-universe for TFA. I think they really just wanted to broadly stick to nostalgia - a way to play it safe given the PT reaction.

It's a cop-out to look at the fairly derivative nature of TFA (story, visuals, design) and say that's because the Star Wars universe is basically all done in terms of new stuff - types of battles, environments, etc. There's a lot of things they could have done, but they chose things like a Hoth/Death Star hybrid with an unused "SW lore" name fans would know. But yeah, ultimately it is the 30-50 year olds who drove a lot of the BO (esp repeat) for the movie, so safe/nostalgia was a good choice.

Would I have loved more original settings and plot points in TFA? Of course, but that still wouldn't have made it necessarily capture our imagination the way the originals did.

There's definitely a ton that could have been done better even within the confines of what they chose to do (these characters/actors/plot/worlds), but I just think it's unrealistic to expect any SW sequel to surprise us and introduce us to amazing new ingredients the way ANH introduced us to that galaxy, (blasters, aliens, droids, lightsabers, stormtroopers, bounty hunters, the force, speeders, the aesthetic of spaceships) that's all. Anything new just falls into one of those categories. And can we reasonably expect another villain as good as Vader? I sort of just don't think so.

Hunger Games has the one advantage of novelty, it also had a good lead actress, and a successful book franchise to propel it. I'm not sure those movies will last in any way though. They seemed a bit forgettable to me.

 

[Hoody999]

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It's gonna take a bit of work, but I think there's a lot of futz potential here. In the right hands, I think this Chewie can be a serious winner...

Getting back on topic. Han and Chewie Hot Toys.

Now that I see this comparison the nose is a long way off. How can they miss that ? Maybe that's all it takes to make him look right ?? Otherwise he's looking good I think.


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[TaliBane]

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Would I have loved more original settings and plot points in TFA? Of course, but that still wouldn't have made it necessarily capture our imagination the way the originals did.

There's definitely a ton that could have been done better even within the confines of what they chose to do (these characters/actors/plot/worlds), but I just think it's unrealistic to expect any SW sequel to surprise us and introduce us to amazing new ingredients the way ANH introduced us to that galaxy, (blasters, aliens, droids, lightsabers, stormtroopers, bounty hunters, the force, speeders, the aesthetic of spaceships) that's all. Anything new just falls into one of those categories. And can we reasonably expect another villain as good as Vader? I sort of just don't think so.

Hunger Games has the one advantage of novelty, it also had a good lead actress, and a successful book franchise to propel it. I'm not sure those movies will last in any way though. They seemed a bit forgettable to me.

I'm pretty sure I've seen one of the Hunger Games movies - not sure which one it was. The young folk seem to like it.

I guess the bigger question is in this era, do people (and SW fans) want something new?

As we lumber toward Harry Potter 9, Terminator 6, and Marvel Universe theatrical film #18, it's a valid question.

Getting back on topic. Han and Chewie Hot Toys.

Now that I see this comparison the nose is a long way off. How can they miss that ? Maybe that's all it takes to make him look right ?? Otherwise he's looking good I think.


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Yeah, not sure that can be futzed. It's also funny that a few people repainted their Chewie mouth/lips to be more brownish - yet this time around HT made the lips brown and the movie seems to show pink.

 

[MAC83]

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It's gonna take a bit of work, but I think there's a lot of futz potential here. In the right hands, I think this Chewie can be a serious winner...

Is that mod you have done to your ANH Chewie? If so do you mind sharing how you lightened up the fur? Im not really confident in my modding skills.

 

[Prime Clone]

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Ahhhhh, memories. Before the mid-'90s Star Wars action figure renaissance this was the closest we had.