12 shot dead at movie theater

[DarkArtist81]

You need to do some traveling. Maybe watch some Hockey or Soccer, yeah only the US likes violence, ooOOo that makes sense. Theres also alot less censoring of rape sceenes in many countries. get off your soapbox.

I've traveled to a lot of other countries... and the US is much more dangerous than a good bit of them. There are a few that are scarier, for sure. But we are definitely up there violence wise.

 

[VASith]

You need to do some traveling. Maybe watch some Hockey or Soccer, yeah only the US likes violence, ooOOo that makes sense. Theres also alot less censoring of rape sceenes in many countries. get off your soapbox.

I'm actually a huge soccer fan..notice my avatar? I've spent 8 months studying abroad in Spain during college back in 1995. Spent a month in England finishing my minor in English lit..spent two weeks in Portugal backpacking. Went back to England with family 6 years ago. I think I've traveled pretty well..thanks for looking out for me though.

 

[Ktjn]

Re: 14 shot dead at movie theater

What the hell were a 6-year-old and an infant doing at a midnight showing, and at a movie kids that age shouldn't be watching?!

I was wondering the same thing. Some people shouldn't be able to produce.

 

[DarkArtist81]

This exposure for the better, in your case, theory isn't a far leap from the same thinking that exposure can also work in reverse and be a numbing agent for extreme acts such as this, IMO.

I agree, this a valid hypothesis for sure. I have seen it happen too. I think each person is hardwired by their experience to have empathy or not to have empathy... Those that feel this emotion keenly tend to go the route I did, those that do not... can be desensitized even more.

 

[Niltusk]

I'm actually a huge soccer fan..notice my avatar? I've spent 8 months studying abroad in Spain during college back in 1995. Spent a month in England finishing my minor in English lit..spent two weeks in Portugal backpacking. Went back to England with family 6 years ago. I think I've traveled pretty well..thanks for looking out for me though.

Then you're a pretty piss poor soccer fan. How many times have you seen anything like what happens at soccer games happen in the US?
Or you just playing ignorant to make your soap box look pretty? Or were those all Americans abroad rushing the field in Cairo a few months back?

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Giving everyone the right to carry guns around is NOT going to lessen the violence and shootings...my god.

Just a few months ago some idiot tried running me off the road because I was driving slower than he would like...I can't imagine what he would have done if he had a gun.

 

[The Mike]

My heart goes out to the families that lost someone. It's been a weird morning seeing different media outlets spin this one way or another but the weirdest had to have been "celebboutique" on Twitter seeing the #Aurora ha___ag trending and using that to promote a Kim Kardashian inspired Aurora dress.

I don't have an issue with the 2nd amendment but I find it difficult to believe that the need for an AK rifle with a high capacity drum (according to the news) falls under that.

AMC theaters just banned costumes at their theaters and who know how far this fallout will go.

 

[teemu]

I am not going to argue against harder gun laws becasue I have no problem making an idividual have to jump through some hoops to get a gun permit.However look at a place like Chicago which has some of the hardest gun laws in the US and the gun shooting crimes there are through the roof.

Bad guys will always find a way to get he guns.

I don't know what the answer is. But one should not be able to walk into a gun store and then 20 min later walk out with a full arsenal.

I have a gun permit....its called the Second Ammendment

(Also a God given RIGHT aswell)

 

[Niltusk]

I have a gun permit....its called the Second Ammendment

(Also a God given RIGHT aswell)

Better to have and not need....

 

[hoodonit00]

Wow... really?

I like horror movies, yeah. I made horror figures, yeah. But it's not like I have ever advocated violence or glorified it. Entertainment is escape. Anyone who knows me, knows that I was a fearful child and have a nervous personality. Horror movies ironically have made me LESS afraid. It's through the use of a psychological method called "exposure". You expose yourself to your fear (in my case, death) and it loses it's power over you.

Entertainment is therapy.

What he posted about was that people applaud crashes in races (REAL not fake), Super gory films (which I don't really like...Jason and others are usually more over the top and silly), violence in sports, and more.

Yes really. Ironic as hell to me but whatever.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Im all for having weapons registered and background checks on those that intend to buy them, but banning weapons only keeps them out of the hands of those that intend to use them legally.

And where does it stop? Who defines what a weapon is? A teenager texting and driving could potentially plow through kids in a parking lot. The Canadian driving 180mph on a motorcycle was essentially a missile. If he rear ended someone he would've killed anyone in that vehicle. Knives/scissors?

 

[teemu]

I'm in the gray area.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, but guns sure make it a lot easier for someone to kill 12 people in a span of 2 minutes than a knife or crowbar would.

That said, its impractical to think that if guns were banned that only the good guys would have them.

Bad guys work harder to go around the laws or work harder to obtain the "unobtainable" weapon.

It's a ____ed up society with ____ed up means to ____ innocent people up for no ____ing reason.

What I wish I understood was why people want to ____ with strangers. Or why people want to kill their wives or babies before taking their own life.

If you don't give a ____ about your own life, just ____ing do it. Don't drag people in.

thats why if someone else (other law abiding civilians) were armed,they could of stopped half of those people from being killed...If 99.9% people are "good" as one declared here,then the good civilians armed would of stopped this guy in a heartbeat

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Giving everyone the right to carry guns around is NOT going to lessen the violence and shootings...my god.

Don't be so sure of that. People are responsible for what they do. I believe there's also a town in Texas that has similar results.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818862/posts

The New American magazine reminds us that March 25th marked the 16th anniversary of Kennesaw, Georgia's ordinance requiring heads of households (with certain exceptions) to keep at least one firearm in their homes.

The city's population grew from around 5,000 in 1980 to 13,000 by 1996 (latest available estimate). Yet there have been only three murders: two with knives (1984 and 1987) and one with a firearm (1997). After the law went into effect in 1982, crime against persons plummeted 74 percent compared to 1981, and fell another 45 percent in 1983 compared to 1982.

And it has stayed impressively low. In addition to nearly non-existent homicide (murders have averaged a mere 0.19 per year), the annual number of armed robberies, residential burglaries, commercial burglaries, and rapes have averaged, respectively, 1.69, 31.63, 19.75, and 2.00 through 1998.

With all the attention that has been heaped upon the lawful possession of firearms lately, you would think that a city that requires gun ownership would be the center of a media feeding frenzy. It isn't. The fact is I can't remember a major media outlet even mentioning Kennesaw. Can you?

The reason is obvious. Kennesaw proves that the presence of firearms actually improves safety and security. This is not the message that the media want us to hear. They want us to believe that guns are evil and are the cause of violence.

The facts tell a different story. What is even more interesting about Kennesaw is that the city's crime rate decreased with the simple knowledge that the entire community was armed. The bad guys didn't force the residents to prove it. Just knowing that residents were armed prompted them to move on to easier targets. Most criminals don't have a death wish.

There have been two occasions in my own family when the presence of a handgun averted potential disaster. In both instances the gun was never aimed at a person and no shot was fired.

 

[jye318]

Giving everyone the right to carry guns around is NOT going to lessen the violence and shootings...my god.

Just a few months ago some idiot tried running me off the road because I was driving slower than he would like...I can't imagine what he would have done if he had a gun.

Yea once everyone have a gun , there will be people die.

 

[teemu]

And where does it stop? Who defines what a weapon is? A teenager texting and driving could potentially plow through kids in a parking lot. The Canadian driving 180mph on a motorcycle was essentially a missile. If he rear ended someone he would've killed anyone in that vehicle. Knives/scissors?

exactly,a vehicle is one of the most dangerous things in the world and causes millions of deaths,I guess we should ban those too!

 

[ProgMatinee]

thats why if someone else (other law abiding civilians) were armed,they could of stopped half of those people from being killed...If 99.9% people are "good" as one declared here,then the good civilians armed would of stopped this guy in a heartbeat

eehhh. i don't know man. if everyone else was armed, how often would their little trifs exculate on other occassions to killings?

I guess I just find the line between crazy and not or angry and not or bad and good or right or wrong to be a lot less black and white to hope that more people were packing around us.

I've seen otherwise good people get into brawls over things that are no big deal. I shudder to think if they were packing whether their fist fight would have been a shootout.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Yes really. Ironic as hell to me but whatever.

Whatever man... take advantage of a national tragedy to rag on me, I don't really give a damn.

 

[VASith]

thats why if someone else (other law abiding civilians) were armed,they could of stopped half of those people from being killed...If 99.9% people are "good" as one declared here,then the good civilians armed would of stopped this guy in a heartbeat

And if they aren't "good" do you want your family in between them? It's one thing to have a trained law official drawing and shooting..it's another to have a 20 year old thinking it's call of duty in real life. Thing with getting a gun is you don't need any training. Don't even have to pass a vision test.

 

[Kuzeh]

Anyone who turns this into a political issue in any way is a pile of crap. End.

I gotta agree with you here dude...
Show some respect people... this isn't the place for crap like this... seriously...

 

[agen_kolar]

Number of people shot is now 71, worst mass shooting in US History.

Some reports also say that not all 71 were injured by gunfire, so saying this is the worst mass shooting in US history just yet may be saying too much. Another report is saying the casualties make it the largest mass shooting in US history - uh, have they forgotten the Virginia Tech school shooting a few years back? I'd call that one "worse", considering three times as many were killed.

We won't have the facts from this case for a while. Right now, everything is unclear due to the chaos.